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Got your email, but am having trouble here too uploading pics here at the moment.

The bends on that frame are more like a Jack Rich design. Johnny Gilmore and Horace may have also made a few of these cage styles as well as Shores.

During that era, Jack Rich used a slightly sharper radius on his bends than Nance.

I'd check in with David Grace at Carter- Maxwell on this frame.

Who has the best list of serial numbers to be able to identify the original owner?

i don't think there is a list of s/n's anywhere to identify original owners of frames... i asked mrs nance several months ago if a list was kept.....

I'll just say this , most frames from the 80's say 83 & on , would be difficult to find the original owner, give you an example , I had a 84 Nance that I bought in 96 from a guy in Tulsa ,Ok. he said he got it from a fella in Ks. , which he was he told it from Tulsa when he bought it , anyway I sold it to a fella that lives outside of OKC and as far as I know he still has possesion of it?? , so that makes 5 owners of the car IF all the info is correct on it, car had a wedge hood on it with laydown injector holes cut in sides for it and had the Ofixico paint scheme and colors but no letters and this was on the top piece of the hood only , sides were bare aluminum, so obviously it was a Champ Dirt Car at one time in the mid 80's ,I ran it 2 yrs. in 97/98 , wish I still had it , but anyway the 100" cars ran in Tulsa till the mid 90's and up till late 90's at OKC. Which cars were bought and sold numerous times, not sure how you would keep up with who was the original owner??. Unless Nance or J & J kept a book/records of who bought it new, be a nice book to possess there.

I also bought a couple of 100" frames up in Tulsa back in mid 90's as they were cheap and almost giving them away up there then when they were going to Sprint Car Frames, bought 2 frames up there from Delta Elec. Co. who ran and won a Championship with one was a downtube 100" car and sold it to Jerry Bruner back then and he turned around and won a couple of championships with it at Lawton back in 90's , but then had an incident at Lawton and crashed and destroyed that car , was not sure if Delta Elec. was original owner of the car or ???, I had several other frames as well , a J & J and thought it might have been an ol Jeff Abernathy car who was from Pauls Valley,Ok. and again that is just from the hood that came with it , not for sure at all on that?? and also had another frame and not sure what it was??. I sold them to yardfun and Mr. Pogue or maybe it was just yardfun??, so long ago just don't remember who got them???.

Now there are some frames out there that can be ID'd to original owner, have seen a few of them in person over the years, but just giving you some examples of the hand me downs as well and probably more hand me downs than one's that can be ID'd for sure.

I believe Nance ,Gambler, J & J quit making 100" stuff in the mid/late 80's??, got a Gambler catalog from 86/87 that still has 100" frames and pieces for sale in it.

I know that Roger Leeskamp built a few 100" cars in the early 90's as well as some Sprint Car Frames, they were called Bear Chassis,couple of guys in OKC ran them till the mid 90's , Johnny Gilmore built a couple as well , one for his grandson and I believe Mike Johnson ran one as well in 93/94??. Those are about the last 100" cars I remember being built.

J.D.

rusty, judging from the photo's you sent, i think the coil front frame you have might well hsve been a 6 cy,that raced in oklahoma, the tube on r/h side of frame may have been angled fwd ect to make room for 6 cy.header's, if photo's are posted on here at some point i'm sure someone in okc area might reconizse it !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Rustyrail,

I will be at 81 speedway Friday & Saturday nights and I will bring photo's of a Nance 100" Dirt Champ car fron the Tulsa area. It is numbered 11-82-86 and was supposedly built for Charlie Sumner. It is a coil front with bars on the rear. I will be the one with Deen Woods old red #11. Stop by and take a look at them.

Keith Roller

Thanks for all the input. Hope we can get the pix to load, so people can see what I am talking about. Dennis and Keith, will see you in Wichita Saturday. I am planning to come, and hope the weather cooperates.

Randy Conrad

Here you go Rustyrail

Thanks Brian. Maybe someone will recognize who might have built the frame or car.

Looks like a Jack Rich design to me.

I sent pictures to Paul Martens and Mike Pogue, but haven't heard back from them. I goggled Jack Rich. The only frame builder with that name was in Phoenix. Think I will try David Grace next.