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The 51 was catching the black car in front of him, and trying to go by him on the outside and Winters decided to run into him. Then he blamed it on the 51.

i remember 2 years ago at knoxville scott was running the wrong line (according to his dad) and his dad was on the infield kicking tires around, all sorts of mad, the kid wasn't running that bad just getting passed by better cars and drivers.

I was going to refrain from commenting, but just can't sit here on my hands anymore.

The 51 looks like he's going in high to the corner, goes in through the middle, and drifts up to the cushion all in a few seconds - with the leader of the race (Scott) having to decide what to do to get around him - because, as shocking as this may be for some of you - he has to get through traffic in order to have a shot at winning... crazy propisition I know for some you to understand.

There is nothing wrong with that slide up infront of the 51 due to the fact of another lapper being slower than syrup hugging the bottom of the track. If any leader in traffic is going to sit around and wait for lap traffic to decide the race and not the other way around, you are going to lose 100 out of 100 of those races - period, end of story. The 51 has been all over the track with a steel head 360 in the 410 class all year.

Now had Scott taken out his front end under green with a bad slider then some of you could do your complaining, but he clears the tires and is in front of the car when contact was made. Scott would have lost the lead to Bakker (diving under off of 4) due to that contact had a yellow not come out.

I'm not going to condone the crap under caution by taking out the front end of the 51. A nice swerve, and finger would have been just fine with me at that point. Had I been able to get a hold of Scott last week there would have been a presser with quotes, but he did not return a call.

And just so everyone knows, the same shit was done to Scott last year under yellow by the 4 at the end of the year and no one was crying foul then when it flattened his tire a few laps later on here or the local board. And there was $7,500 on the line that night.

Call me bias, I honestly could get an eff less, but I would be saying the same thing had T-Mac, Sammy, Dollansky, hell, even Jason Meyers, if they would have done that same move in traffic.

BIG J

"Luck is what happens when preparation meets opportunity."

Amazing winters has a hoseheads account he could comment on here but you wont see him do that cause he's a DB.

Been takin out by him before under yellow flag 3 separate occasions. All i can say is payback is a MotherFu*k@r.

I think the issue here is the incident under caution, not the slide job put on the other driver. To me that was a racing incident and I didn't see a problem with it at all. But running over the front end of another car under caution and then NOT getting black flagged?... That's what I ( as well as the majority here it seems) have a problem with.

What a shame,a guy trying to race with an affordable motor,probably out of his own pocket at that.Doesn't he know he should bow down to the guys with the hi-dollar aluminum engines,he ought to be ashamed of himself,the sport sure doesn't need guys like that,it just needs more spoiled brats with someone else paying the bills.

Maybe we should give Winters a break for just a minute. He was racing for a win and knew McCarl's,Bakker, Jeffery and Dobmeir were coming. The 51 POS was in the way could of cost him the win and is a start and park car, just there for the $400. to start with a motor more suitable for a hobby stock. Yes chopping 51's front end was the wrong thing to do witch I'm sure Scott regerts now but it was in the heat of the moment. Complain all you want but I enjoy watching Scott Winters race.

Yeah, I don't understand why he was upset with the 51 in the first place. He threw the slider across his front. Its not like he had him cleared and then the 51 drove into the back of him. But that's what it seemed like Scott thought, and then he goes and drives right into the guy under caution and breaks his front end. The 51 is on a limited budget, and you blatantly break his equipment for something he didn't even do, that's ridiculous. I didn't think the slider was all that bad, but what I don't like is the fact that scott seemed to retaliate for something he himself did. And nobody cried about those other inciidents because there was no video of us to see it with. We're not ganging up on Scott because he's Scott, we're complaining about what we SAW him do.

oh if it was only a perfect world..... lil sammy though... REALLY? I think sammy is a legend... scott is only known as the guy who started out in the R19....

The biggest problem wasnt the contact with the 51 under racing conditions, but the fact that Bakker got by him because of that contact. Had Bakker not made the pass at that time, Im pretty sure it may have been a swipe or a one finger salute, but getting passed was too much to handle, even if it did go yellow and the pass was negated.

I believe there were two cars slower than Doug on that particular eveing.

Scott Winters has been driving like that, using his right rear as a weapon for as long as I can remember. He's been warned, talked to about it, blah blah blah. It does no good because bottom line (Ford 97 got it right on the head) he thinks he is God's gift to Sprint Car Racing. His family supports and build up this idea and his fans are just about as idiotic as he is. I sat in the stands at Elko last year when Winters was running 2nd to Tatenall and Tatanall flipped. Before the car even stopped flipping the Winters fans were laughing, whooping it up and high-fiving because their boy was in the lead. The entire family (his sister is the worst) create drama at every race they go to. He's arrogant and he's dangerous. These tracks/officials need to stand up to them and show him the black flag. MAYBE it'll make some sort of an impact.

EXACTLY- Hope he stays away from Knoxville Dont need that type of driver.

No problems here with anything he did under green. However, Blatantly taking the guys front end off under the yellow is a chickenshit move. Sure seems like the Winters clan is selling everything off and done each winter. Its pretty obvious to me why not many are lining up wanting to sponsor them. Maybe JUST maybe the slower car was goin in low and drifting to the cushion to miss the spot where Scott eventually stepped on lil man and ran out of talent? I guess we'll never know

You always hear the flagman, during the pit meeting, tell the drivers that if they are being lapped to hold a line. Going in low and drifting to the top is not what you can say is holding a line. That's taking up the whole track.

These type of posts should be deleted after 7 days. Enough is enough.

The 51 car was being lapped every 3rd lap.

He didn't go in low, he was in the middle. And Scott was already committed to the bottom, when he drifted to the cushion. Maybe he was trying to give scott room, looked like he drifted up after scott was on his inside to me. If scott had just stayed on the bottom bakker wouldn't have got by, the 51 would have been a pick.

Its been 3 days.

It's time the powers whom monitor this site delete this post, enough is enough!