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From a racer&fan in Enid i think the steet stock nationalsat would be a good thing If it was run&promoted properly. The fist 4 events held here had a pre entry of, over a hundred cars.As a racer I supported the event by be a fan or by helping the those cars that was in that event. The first four events held had reasonable rules which didn't need much changing of expensive parts to cars or the drivers pulling from New Mexico, Minnasota and even Canadian, California, texas, Than Enid changed hands and rules.than had to spend more money to upgrade the car, but the promotor was a daily beer drinker so if you would call with a questions about the rules or a part on the car he would tell them its okey .TILL they go in for inspection. that was 2 new mexico cars they went home and they have not been back or any cars from there.

JIMMY MINTER 'AKA'dirtrack234                  
Yesterday 
is history, 
tomorrow is a mystery, and today is a gift. That is 
why they call it the present.

I raced another class at Winter Nationals last year, there were not 40 cars. Maybe 25 or 26 sprints. As far as 5 to 6 people per car, not harldy. Some teams had that many, not all. Same with the late models, some have 6 or 7, but not all. Heck last week at Meeker, I brought in 8 with me with my late model. Just because one guy brings a lot of people does not mean you can say "everyone" does. If you want to get down to it, the NCRA Sportmods are by far the best class to run for a special show. The number of cars versus the payout, can't be matched by any other class.

Im not trying to start a fight but your comment about 25-26 sprints ia dead wrong. There were 40 sprints in the pits and they AVERAGE 5 to 6 people per car, didn"t say ALL had 5or 6 people. Two years ago the late models brought 14 or 15 cars to Enid to the winter nationals and yes it was on a Sunday wich may have had something to due with the low car count.

OCRS results from Enid Winter Nationals. Date: 10/24/2009

there were 40 OCRS sprint cars there last season .. they brought alot of people. i feel like there is room at the winter nationals for sprint cars, especially since open wheel racing is a rich part of Enids history....plus, the OCRS shows there are always good racing. i am sure that the sportmods put on a good show, but some people might want to see sprint cars, or both....

"its useless to put on the brakes when you are upside 
down"   -Paul Newman

At least 9 of them were URSS 305 race cars not OCRScars, so maybe thats where 1dirtracergot his number of 25-26. Hope to make a trip down there this year. Ed would love to see a late model race down there. What do you think? LETS GO RACIN!!

JIMMY MINTER 'AKA'dirtrack234                  
Yesterday 
is history, 
tomorrow is a mystery, and today is a gift. That is 
why they call it the present.

While true there were URSS cars in the field since it was a co-sanctioned event, lets remember that OKC doesn't have a track now and you can bet your bottom dollar that cars from the OKC area would more than make up the difference. Just makes sense since they are closer to Enid than the URSS teams.

Its not who is from where, its the TOTAL number signed in that the promoters are looking for.

Actually, think about this. If the OCRS purse is close to Midwest Dirt Late Model Series purse, then why don't they run a promotion to run both classes on the same night, maybe 2 nights, like friday and saturday, or maybe saturday and sunday on Labor Day weekend. If both purses are around $1000 to win and $200 to start then that would not be too bad would it? I mean, alot of places advertise $2000-5000 to win races all the time, what fan wouldn't jump at the opportunity to watch Late Models and Sprint cars on the same night, and the promoter is only looking to pay each class around $1000 to win. To me it would be a win-win situation even if it is only a one night show.... Just a thought.

Darin Busch

does it not take money to get these series such as mdlms and ocrs to come to your track? its not like he would be paying 1000 on down it would be 5,000(example) to get the series plus the payout. which would probably equal more than the street stock 10,000 to win, except the street stock nats are there 3 days plus practice and pay a healthy entry fee and not to mention fans come 3 days to enjoy the show i could be wrong this is a question and a statement in one

I believe that a different variety of classes would be best, then you are pleasing the different types of racers and fans. I do think that the sprint cars would show up here and have good show but I believe more people are interested in the latemodels. who all can remember the days when Ted Shepard, David Hughes, Gary Macy, John Bossa, and many more would have awesome latemodel racing at Enid. I really hope they find a way to bring in all the classes.

Jayson Ellis

JD, there is not a sanctioning fee for the MDLMS that I am aware of. The MDLMS makes their money on the entry fee for the drivers. I don't know about OCRS. There wasn't any fee at one time, don't know about now.

Darin Busch

I agree 1dirtracer. That would be one awesome show. LETS GO RACIN!!

Ed if you're trying to branch out and lay a seed for future IMCA sanctioning in Enid you may have just shot yourself in the foot..To say "The Street Stock Nationals is gone to Ada. Trying to revive it in Enid is probably fruitless for this year anyway" I believe is a kick in the face to allot of racers and fans to Enids' 14 year History with the biggest single event they've ever had..It doesn't need revived !.. It's already established in need of an honest promotor and better grandstand announcing !..The car counts, fans and established rules with hard tech are already there !
Good grief ! Most of my family resides in Kansas but this makes me mad !.. This guy wouldn't even consider a lower purse with a lower entry fee to help keep the Annual Enid Street Stock Nationals tradition alive !.. I think your motives are clear Mr. Beckley..Thank you for the response this week..
Honestly all this scrapping about racing anywhere in the world is just dust in the wind fellas..The Signs of the Times are here with very little time to enjoy America as we knew it..To those in Faith of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ keep looking up !.. For our redemption draweth nigh and a future with Him is the only thing that really matters..Israel is the Apple of Gods eye..The stage is set for a massive change lining up perfectly with what the Word says..Keep your eye on Israel and the Middle East ! The curtain call is about to happen !

MR. Nulfinski:

This is not an IMCA thread - this was a discussion about the Street Stock Nationals. My information shows me that car count has dwindled in this class. In the last 3 years it has dropped about 20 percent each event. Even the local Street Stock classes

Many have made some valid points and I would welcome someone that wants to bankroll the Street Stock Nationals. Since you MR. Nulfinski .....are so sure this is a safe risk I am awaiting your phone call 620-789-0329 is my cell if you are serious and want to talk about partnering up.

Ed Beckley
Dodge City Raceway Park 
Dodge City, Kansas 
www.dodgecityraceway.com 
[email protected] 

Also Enid Speedway 
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i hate to say it because i enjoy the street stock nationals in enid , but last night at the Hutchison Nationals which is one of the bigger events this time of the year and has always had a good car count for full bodied cars , had 9 cars in the street stock class, yes you read it right , and this is a big event around here every year and they had 9 street stocks , so where were all the street stocks, not a street stock from enid there , in fact if my memory serves me right ,not a street stock from oklahoma there, i was dissappointed, like i said i like watching the street stocks...come on street stock guys if you want ed to promote the 10 to win in enid show up at these type of races and show him the cars are out there, instead of talking about it , by the way good job last night Mr. Nulf you top 3 or 4 put on a good show, i was rooting for you, and you guys with street stocks cant use different rules as an excuse because Mr. Nulf raced there last night and he races the 10 to win in enid just my 2 cents which is actually worth about a half cent

Hudsonparts, Seems like allot of us Street Stock guys save our stuff for the big events..You got a few more from the Hutch area that didn't show..My brother Gary in the 719 was ready early this year and hasn't had any issues..Ray had some motor issues this week that sidelined him and my car isn't ready yet..I hear C-Ray is opening the rules up a bit which should help the car counts at 81 but the Hutch Nats rules are iffy to allot of racers..You can throw allot of money out the window for this one even if you win and then hope the check finally comes a month later !

Ed the car counts are dwindling everywhere in the Nation at almost every track..The cars and drivers are out there deciding what to do right now.. I'm just a car owner-racer with limited time to work on the car focusing on the bigger events..