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Troy from the people I talked with they seem to think you could do fine with your choice to offer dirt track racin in central OK. You have apparently been able to offer quality M/X races but some tough questions will be comming your way.

Rules for the classes and weight limits or are you going to go with the rules Lanny set up?

Tires that we will be able to run, Carter Maxwell could be a help to the sucess of your track.

What do you have planned for your Tech area.

Pay Scale, are you going to offer the same as what was being offered at SFS.

Point system and are you going to reconize the ORA.

The banking that was posted earlier is a hugh difference and might not be a positive.

I dont bring these questions up for any reason except you might be confronted with them in the future and might make a difference on weather you make it or not. I know that most of these questions may not have answers but if there are some you may respond if you choose to.

"Racing is an Addiction cured by Poverty"         
BOBCAT

I'm going to go with the IMCA rules for modified and southern sport-mod. OKC rules for the two barrel sprint. I,m reviewing some pure stock rules I'd like to make this set of rules as simple and cheap as possible. I am going to run these rules, however, If there are things about these rules that we need to modify for our first year only. So that you may use the car you set up for OKC. Then we would want to take a look at this.

The tech area? Will be inside a building that we will be able to pull four car in at once.

The banking will be different at each end of the track how much different I'm not sure now. I will get some input from the drivers. I just want the corners to be different so I thought I would do it with banking instead of shape. I'll need to figure this out now because I'm at that point of the dirt work.

Point system and are you going to reconize the ORA.

Need to go with this Tony.

Lance aka (FUNNN)


                     

Troy most OKC cars are not IMCA legal. Building idea is good for tech. Still wish you would reconsider the banking, cars will be good in one corner and not the other you can make the turns different to promote exciting action {ie Kellyville use to be egg shape, Ada kind of a tri oval} but if banking is different you might have more wrecks.

"Racing is an Addiction cured by Poverty"         
BOBCAT

JD, How much and or what is difference between the IMCA and OKC rules because cars from other tracks will be there as well not just OKC cars. OKC rules are a little different than most tracks anyway are they not?

 Randy       

       DIRT TRACKIN
"When it's wet slide it in"

In my opinion IMCA is the strickest set of rules and tracks make modifications from there. IMCA dosent permit roller cams, rear pumps, aluminum bell housings and body restriction as well to name a few. The only OK track that I know of that is IMCA is Ardmore. Amarillo is IMCA as well.

Southeren sport mods seem to be the norm around OK when Northern mod rules are different on chassis and a few other things. I dont know all the sport Mod rules but I know in the past tracks have been allowing tubular upper control arms instead of stock.

"Racing is an Addiction cured by Poverty"         
BOBCAT

yes randy. kind of. sure woulda helped to read down about another 4 posts before posting timetables lol.

i havent really been gone. just a difference between having enough time to read a lil - and having enough time to conversate in depth

How much would could a wouldchuck chuck if a 
wouldchuck could chuck would

YER BACK.... LMAO!!!!!

 Randy       

       DIRT TRACKIN
"When it's wet slide it in"

I like the banking idea. Gonna be some wrecks anyway. Driver's job to keep it under control not the track's. I say, GO FOR IT Troy.

I'm really excited about this track. I e-mailed Troy and in less than an hour he called me. He really sounds like he is doing it the right way. He's getting input from well-known experienced racers. He said that he will try to run some ASCS ruled specials a few times this year and possibly have an ASCS ruled weekly show in the future if there is enough interest.

What I'm really excited about is the tech. He said he is not afraid to stay until 2am or so tearing down cars and imo that is awesome! Like I said, I'm really excited about this and even though I can't run there weekly in 2010 I will be a regular on Friday nights. I feel like this track can take over the role of the major track in the area if all goes through.

Good luck Troy!

It really does not matter to me but back in the 90's I was an I.M.C.A. official. The thing about their rules back then and I am sure it is now as well you either you went by the rules or else. Some mod drivers are not used to intense tech inspections so they better get ready. I think it's a good thing because I would want to come back and spend my money as a fan. I think thats what it's all about people spending money and having a good time for a few hours on a Friday night....

 Randy       

       DIRT TRACKIN
"When it's wet slide it in"

I agree that IMCA rules are there to keep things equal but Ardmore did it to get TX cars and go by a Natl. set of rules. But if you want very many Mods at first you might want to give this class a chance to change if they want. Enid dont run these rule OKC didnt Meeker dont Lawton dont Elk City dont Clinton dosent. If you dont get pure stock rules from some local tracks that class may suffer too and if thats the case you'll have 2 classes, 2 brrl and Limirted Mods. Hey it aint my track but if you want cars you need to let the cars that are already ready run. Just a thought.

"Racing is an Addiction cured by Poverty"         
BOBCAT

J.D. you are up late. the weather got you shutdown?...On second thought you run around in this nasty stuff.

one thing about it , with banking different on each end, it would definetly be a drivers track.

JD is up that late probably still taking phone calls for his work. If your looking for a sponsor, he could be yours.

David Smith Jr.
www.oklahomatidbits.com

After talking with Stanley Reed and others we will run the rules that the SFS used. We will be using the IMCA rules in 2011. This will allow everyone time to change over if they want. Which tracks in Oklahoma run the pure class?

troy ,ada runs purestock , but i don't think that they run imca rules. the rules allow 600 holly carb, floater rearends.

I am just wanna be race "whatever I am called" but I would stay away from any pro or street or factory or mini stock or whatever. Get a good, full body entry class to where some of your area local residents would be interested in building a car because they can afford to. This way your sure of a fan base locally because they will know at least one of the drivers racing.

PLEASE don't take this bad because I am not trying to label anybody but just making an example. Let's say Indian Joe is going to buy him a car. Alot of the locals like indian Joe and he has lots of friends. Those people will cant to come watch him compete and soon there other people could build cars. Please don't count or depend soley on out of town people.

There were things I wanted to talk too you about, Troy, when you called but I was driving and could barely hear so will get into that another time. It sounds as if you have the support of alot of the drivers, that is the first good step, and you obviously have alot of interest from alot of people. Probably more than you realize. Just go at your pace as your finances will allow, hear what they say but don't make quick decisions.

You have what seems to be a very successful MX setup so I am sure you will have no problem making this a success.

David Smith Jr.
www.oklahomatidbits.com

Thanks, what I'm after is to make sure we run the same pure stock rules as the rest of the tracks in the state.

Sounds to me like you are dragging your feet. JUST KIDDING. I apparently got some REAL bad info about that. I am looking forward to seeing the place and can't wait for you to get it going. Good luck.