Forum: Northern California Sprint Car (go)
Moderators: StuDeedooo

#1. "The track announced..."yet there wasn't ever a finalized schedule on their website or anything else they printed out, its still not. If you look on their website in big letters it says "TENTATIVE - Subject to change" Obviously I am the one that can read and you are not.

#2. The tire debate is not something I brought up just commented on. So cry me a river. Not everything I posted was for your eyes only.

#3. Like I said before. It costs a lot of money to bring in the outlaws and its a lot of money to risk on a un-guaranteed race. I'm sure they may have advertised it with the hopes of having the mini as an outlaw race because they were hoping in contract talks with the outlaws they could make some concessions in order to not put as much risk on an event so early in the year.

You're complaining about travel arrangements that now you have to switch that may cost you about $500 MAX....you're still not risking $100k+

If your entire point was trying to get a response on why they pulled the date you should go to them, they have every way of contacting the office on their website. Instead of coming to a message board that no one with an answer visits. If you've already emailed them, why not wait for a response rather than complaining and speculating.

Yeah. Exactly what he said.

Seems like if we dont learn our history, we could repeat it.... Seems like this is what killed our California racing in the past. Now that this has found a national level, it will be interesting.

You probably should have kept your ticket and went to the mini I think it will be a better race without the WoO . Probably be more cars and much better competition.

Personaly if my grandson was not racing I would not cross the street to see a WoO race. We the fans are more to blame for this kind of stuff happening because we put

up with the BS from the WoO if we did not attend their races they would have no choice but to listen

to us and the drivers & owners.

i applaud handy for this move, the MGC was and will be again a great race without the WoO. as far as us seeing the very best sprint car drivers in the world if u go to the mini u will see the best there is.---and good luck to all the Kaedings this coming year

Robert Bond    San Jose Ca

OSF… I know your a passionate sprint car fan and you might want to book a trip to Texas but your going to miss a good race with a pretty talented field in Chico.

Your going to love Thunderbowl! This is hands down my favorite track in Cali. I just hope we get a decent field of west coast drivers joining the fray.

1987 Was the first Mini Gold Cup for WoO, then the next was 1992 and won by Steve Kinser. The 2009 was the last WoO for Mini. there you go for STATS.. The choice not to sanction the Mini has no bearing on the "GOLD CUP" IN SEPTEMBER...

I remember that 87 mini it was almost my personal best pick for a weekend of racing. Just wish Bradway could have won both nights, he looked to have it going that weekend. How much are these ticket prices going to be for this high payin race that is unsanctioned? They cant expect the same 85 dollars for 2 days.....

No I am sure they won't be, I willl see what I can find out.

I agree with Oakland. It was announced several times during the Gold Cup this year that both the Mini and Gold Cup would be Outlaw sanctioned races. Wish that we could have seen a real ROUGH track for the Mini, so somebody would have had to Cowboy UP to win it! My dark horse pick is still Daron Clayton to win!

And things change......especially if Handy had not signed a sanctioning agreement,,,,

Why is that so hard for some to understand - and to accept? Don't like it? Don't support Chico, or the GSC when they race there. But please, give it up. The WoO isn't coming to Chico until the fall.....all of this complaining on a message board isn't going to change anything.

Like others have said, if you really want to make your opinion known to Alan Handy, call him and tell him; caterwauling on here won't get you anywhere........

Chuck.....

Here is my issue with your logic: You must really want to see the WoO drivers to want to fly all the way from Indana and change your flight to be at Tulare. My point is: You are in Indiana. If you want to see the WoO drivers that bad there are likely many opportunities this summer where you can see them and not have to fly anywhere. You were originally intending to go to the Mini Gold Cup which is still going to happen and WILL be a great race. In addition to that I can probably give you at least 10 other reasons to visit Chico. I do love the Thunderbowl but fear that the West Coast teams may - in a show if solidarity - not be at the Tulare WoO show. So at that point you will have flown all the way out here to see an overpriced show with MAYBE 20 cars. I'd reconsider your decision to change your travel plans if I were you. Regardless of when the decision was made to not go with the WoO the decision was announced before any tickets were sold and I'm confident that Alan really did try damned hard to work something out. I applaud his decision. The racers he helped with this decision are the ones I rely on for my racing fix all season and are clearly the ones he intends to take care of in any way he can. The fans will benefit too.

Ok alot of stuff being said on hear is true. Times are still tough with this economy so without the WoO I can probally take my kids both nights. But why bash on a track or promoter. They do what they can to make it good for everyone.Without them we would have nowhere to go watch a race. We can all point fingers at this person or that person. But when it really comes down to it 95% of all of us will be at Mini Gold Cup no matter how we feal or what we think about it. Were just all fired up right now waiting to hear those motors get kicked off and smell that smell you cant smell anywhere else..... See you all at Mini Gold Cup..

I won't be @ the MGC, but it’s not because of the WoO sanction. I wouldn't have gone either way – the drive is to long and a rain out is always a possibility this time of year. But, I do think that both sprinter25 and race_dirt make a lot of sense in what they have posted. They have both made it very clear - the Silver Dollar promoter tried to make it happen. It is evident that he is looking after the best interests of the California local sprint car owners and drivers by deciding not to make the MGC an Outlaw sanctioned show. He may also be considering some sprint car fans with the price of a WoO ticket. Support the local teams and track promoters - after all they are the folks that keeps us going to the local race track (whatever California track) every week. They are also the folks that take all of the risks. It’s obvious that OSF is a true supporter of sprint car racing and I think I understand his disappointment. The fact is that the Outlaws have almost priced themselves out of business in California - especially now with the Goodyear requirement and fees. At least you will have two opportunities out here to watch your WoO stars this year. Don't forget that they are at the Las Vegas Dirt Track during the NASCAR weekend February 26, 27. And you can always fly to Texas on the MGC dates. Good for Mr. Handy.

"Ralphie, Senor, muchas gracias por una mas cerveza"  -
Scott Daloisio @ the PAS

So if he is so worried about the race fans and their economic conditions, how is it that for the Gold Cup you must pay for an entire week in order to request a camp site for the three days of the event? Please! The outlaws are the show, the pinnacle of sprint cars, and the REAL DRIVERS that we support all year long on the GSC would all of liked another shot to see where they stack up against the worlds best.

There's a supply issue with campsites for the GC; SDS has always sold ALL of the campsites at the track. So if you're not prepared to pay for a week-long reservation for a site, some one else will, so you'll likely be outbid.

And I think that the campsite resevation rules are set by the Fair Board, not by Handy Promotions.

Chuck.....

Ticket pricing is $30 & $35 which is high for the MGC being a local/regional show with $4,000 to win Friday. The GSC tickets are usually $18 for $3,000 to win.

Rather than deal with rumor and innuendo, why not call Handy Promotions?

Chuck.....

He had to have called in order to find out ticket prices...but of course a message board is the best place to stir the shit!