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December 21, 2008 at
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Must be world wide time as I am catching it here at home as well (the woman on the rampage that is).
David Smith Jr.
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December 21, 2008 at
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Posted By: illiNOISE on December 20 2008 at 06:07:27 PM
I'm not sure why everyone thought the track was going to be any bigger than it is. Is it perhaps because some race fans simply don't follow regular sports, and because they didn't realize that this is a hockey areana, just presumed that the building was going to be the size of the Tusla Expo Center or Southern Illinois Center?
But if you knew it's a hockey arena, you should have understood that there was simply no way they could have gotten a 1/5th or 1/6th mile track in there. A regulation hockey rink is only 200 feet by 85 feet. 200 feet times two straights yields 400 feet. 85 feet across times pi (3.14) gives a circumfrence of 267 feet.(since there's two ends of the track, we can consider two semi-circles as one circle) So that gives us 667 feet, or 7 feet longer than an 1/8th mile drag strip.
I give a shout out to POWRi for putting on a winter show in a relatively major city, but I decided months ago not to attend this show simply because I knew the track size--or lack thereof--would likely present a problem.
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Your track size calculations are incorrect. The track is bigger than a hockey rink. Remember all arenas have the rink and collapsable seats near the boards. Take those seats out and you have more room than just the standard hockey rink dimensions. Now that said the track still looked WAYYYY too small and what I feel was the bigger problem was the lack of banking. They advertised it but didnt deliver it, that is a problem. You cant carry any speed through a flat hairpin turn. Then when you stuff a bunch of cars in such a small space without the ability to carry good momentum through the corners youve got a recipe for a flop. Just the facts as I see them. They need to consider a domed football type stadium as that would allow alot more track space. I still gotta give them a nod for trying though that takes guts.
Cheers!
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December 21, 2008 at
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Posted By: The_Truth_Detector on December 21 2008 at 01:22:45 AM
There is this new technology that you may have heard of, it's called a "cell phone". People can use it to speak to each other over great distances without being tethered by a wire! Well, it goes like this. The Truth Detector had a pretty good idea that this race would be a clusterf**k, so he chose to not go. However, he has friends who are not only attending as fans, but also entered as participants. These people also have this new technology called a "cell phone", those very same people placed a call to The Truth Detector, informing him that he was indeed correct in his thinking that the race would indeed be a clusterf**k.
Now, you must also have a vivid imagination, or you could be a complete retard, because nowhere in my previous post did I ever mention that I thought that I could or would put together an indoor race. HOWEVER, if I did, I certainly have learned from this event what NOT to do.
Now, since your panties are apparently in a wad, I'd suggest that you pull 'em out and go take some Midol for that raging case of PMS.
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lmao. thats freakin hilarious!!! lol.
the truth detector passes the polygraph on this one - especially if sarcasm points are factored in.
geez thats hysterical. The Truth Detector's pimp hand is way strong. lmao.
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December 21, 2008 at
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with all the technology and all could someone post results from saturday night?
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December 21, 2008 at
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www.RacinBoys.com has been following this event in detail with audio, video, pictures and results all weekend long. They've done a nice job with it and that's where I've been checking in on the results.
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December 21, 2008 at
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They definitely got it turned around last night. I got some GREAT pictures of three wide cars running the first heat race from the apex of 3 and 4 all the way through coming out of 2. The racing was great last night! It was really cold, but I learned my lesson from Friday, so no big deal. After last night, I will definitely come back for round 2!
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December 21, 2008 at
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The A main on Saturday was a great race. It made the whole trip worth going. The building is cold but if you bought the extra $10 dollar pit pass you could walk back there and warm up between events. That worked out great. Overall I would give the race an A. The only thing I would do different next time is eat a big steak dinner before I go. The arena food sucked and was way high priced.
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December 21, 2008 at
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Posted By: Hootus6D on December 21 2008 at 01:19:24 PM
The A main on Saturday was a great race. It made the whole trip worth going. The building is cold but if you bought the extra $10 dollar pit pass you could walk back there and warm up between events. That worked out great. Overall I would give the race an A. The only thing I would do different next time is eat a big steak dinner before I go. The arena food sucked and was way high priced.
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I would like to know what the people at the races thought about the support divisions? It would seem that an 82 car midget field should be a stand alone event. It would seem that the down time could be used for track prep (if needed) and to clear the air (if needed). I sometimes think the promoters mistake quantity for quality.
Was there really a fan who was on the fence, but having the dwarfs on the card made them want to go to the races?
Maybe run the support classes as a stand alone event on Thursday, so the promoters could learn about the track before the midgets ran.
However, I was not there. I am stuck in the great white north, and not happy about it.
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Posted By: JonR on December 21 2008 at 05:07:22 PM
I would like to know what the people at the races thought about the support divisions? It would seem that an 82 car midget field should be a stand alone event. It would seem that the down time could be used for track prep (if needed) and to clear the air (if needed). I sometimes think the promoters mistake quantity for quality.
Was there really a fan who was on the fence, but having the dwarfs on the card made them want to go to the races?
Maybe run the support classes as a stand alone event on Thursday, so the promoters could learn about the track before the midgets ran.
However, I was not there. I am stuck in the great white north, and not happy about it.
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There was only two classes scheduled on Saturday. The 600's run during the daytime and the midgets ran at night. It was like two completely different shows. You could choose to go early and watch both or just go at 5 pm and watch the midgets. I didn't go Friday when they had all the classes. It must have been a little to much. A few of the A mains had to be run on Saturday morning. I did see the make up features in the 600's and dwarf cars on Saturday. They put on a good show. I wouldn't go to watch them alone but they did a good job and the racing wasn't bad. I don't think they were planning on getting 300 cars the first time they put the race on or they might have split it like the Chili Bowl. There was cars there from 28 different states and Canada. I hope it continues and gets bigger.
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December 21, 2008 at
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Did not go Friday but Sat. night midget show was good. Track was small but the A main was a dam good one. Those not there Sat missed watching Tony Stewart work his ass off working on the track helping push cars and anything else to help the show. Not a big fan of Tony , but a thank you to him for what he did last night. Midgets in Kansas City in Dec hope it happens again.
Curt Grogan
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December 21, 2008 at
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I made both nights. I am a long time midget driver and owner. I had a great young driver in my car, but we had engine problems and did not get much running. I was there early Friday, what a mess. So manny classes and so far behind schedule. The racing was real bad. Everyone was trying hard but the track was small and the dirt was not good. Saturday I had to go to work teaching and coaching the young people of our nation ( I ramble a lot ) . A friend from St. Louis called and ask about the race, I told him that if I had not bought a two day pit pass I would not go back. After coaching I got to Kemper at 5:00 pm. Man what a difference . The racing was all good with the feature being one to remember for a long time. Small track but great driving , great show. I am glad that I bought a two day pass. They need to improve the dirt and run fewer classes. I hope they will run it next year and also lower ticket prices times are tough and I believe more people would come. I prolbley would have been there Ssturday anyway and the price won't stop me but I have had this sickness for a long time.
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December 21, 2008 at
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Was there 1 pm to 11 pm on Sat. The racing was good the food $4.50 for a hot dog. The building was cold cold cold. It was warmer in the pit building but you had to go practically outside to get there. Didn't notice any dust in the arena and less fumes than the chili bowl. Was dusty in the pit building. They should call this one the Cold Bowl.
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We rolled in Wed. morning. Was there till late Sat night. This is my take of the whole week. Danny Lasoski needs praised for doing a great job with what he had to work with. The dirt that was brought in was too wet, they couldn't get the bottom to pack hard enough. Danny's help was doing there best to get people in and unloaded as fast as they could. The POWRi people did a great job with as many cars as they had to deal with. The weather was against them just about the whole time. The track was too small but still racey if you had so common sense and some talent. Tony Stewart along with Danny worked till 4 am Sat. morning on the track which helped alot. Sat. Tony pretty much took care of the track even at the end of a shoval and even on the skid loader and it made things a lot better.
Besides the small track the biggest problems I saw in all of the open wheel classes was lack of good drivers. I guess they thought they had a demo car. They would run over you, thru you and any thing else to be ahead. Alot of good cars got tore up. We were taken out in 2 seperate races in turn 4 taking the green flag and didn't even get to the flagstand. I guess if you take out the competition you don't have to race them. Several cars loaded up and went home after fri. because of the driving. Sat. racing was better, maybe cause they settled down alittle and the track was better. We ran POWRi this summer and finished in the top 20 in points and never ran with idiots like there was here.
Just my take but I give all involved a thumbs up for trying to get a good thing going. Racers need to learn patience and follow the rules especially when it is trying to get another new place to race for the first time.
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From hoseheads news section
“Clauson scores big payoff at Kemper Arena”
By Bryan Gapinski Kansas City, Mo., Dec. 20--- Bryan Clauson scored a narrow victory, capturing Saturday Night’s 40-lap ‘Twas the Midgets before Christmas feature, at Kemper Arena. The victory was worth $10,000 to Clauson who drove the C & A Motorsports owned Spike/Stanton-Mopar#7a. The victory followed Clauson’s second place feature finish in the opening night’s events. Clauson moved past polesitter J.J. Yeley to take the lead at the start of the event. Three cautions during the first nine laps kept Clauson out of lapped traffic. Brad Loyet and teammate Danny Lasoski both passed Yeley on the 14th lap, to move into second and third place, while Clauson was running in heavy lapped traffic. The pair chased down Clauson and Loyet moved into the lead on lap 21. Clauson using the outer groove, after several attempts regained the lead from Loyet on Lap 29. Two laps later the final caution appeared. With five laps remaining Clauson began lapping the tail of the field, as the Loyet team cars stayed within a car length. Clauson finished two-car lengths ahead of Loyet to score the victory. Lasoski, co-promoter of the event finished third followed by Yeley and Scott Hatton. Clauson who now competes in the NASCAR Nationwide Series commented on the victory afterwards “ The track was different from the first night, the second groove came in at the right time and it helped us get the victory”. Seventy-six cars competed in the second night of the event, which sanctioned by the O’Reilly POWRi National Midget Series. SUMMARY 40-lap Feature: 1.Bryan Clauson, 2. Brad Loyet, 3. Danny Lasoski, 4. J.J. Yeley, 5. Scott Hatton, 6. Shane Cottle, 7. Daniel Robinson, 8. Jerry Coons Jr., 9. Austin brown, 10. Daryn Pittman, 11. Brad Kuhn, 12. Davey Ray, 13. Billy Pauch Jr., 14. Kevin Swindell, 15. Dakoda Armstrong, 16. Tim Siner, 17. Casey Shuman, 18. Jesse Hockett, 19. Austin Mero, 20. Tanner Mullen .
12-lap B Feature Winners: Kuhn, Cottle. 10-lap C Feature Winners: Donovan Petersen, Cory Kruseman . 8-lap D Feature winners: Todd McVay, Brady Bacon .
8-lap Heat Race Winners: Robinson, Mullen, Mero, Loyet, Clauson, Kuhn, Steve Gennetten, Coons, Martin, Pittman. Top Passing Points Earner: Yeley 65.5. Cars Present: 76 Winning Car Owner/Chassis/Engine: C & A Motorsports/Spike/Stanton Mopar Winners Purse: $10,000 Feature Lap Leaders: Clauson 1-20, Loyet 21-29, Clauson 30-40 . ***Glen Styres flipped in heat race 4. Zach Daum flipped in first C feature. Jody Rosenboom, Dave Darland and Bryan Brown flipped in first B feature.
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