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Rogue-9
October 19, 2008 at 08:50:58 PM
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Posted By: Bill W on October 18 2008 at 04:04:18 PM

Kevin has him with 141 prelims and 547 regular, that makes 688 total out of the 873 in his career. That leaves 85 "other" feature wins...



well 185 "other" feature wins



Savage, Bad Monkey
October 19, 2008 at 11:17:07 PM
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Williams Grove has him 8th in all time Feature wins. And he never ran there regularly! I think that says something......


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singlefile
October 19, 2008 at 11:45:17 PM
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Posted By: Savage, Bad Monkey on October 19 2008 at 11:17:07 PM

Williams Grove has him 8th in all time Feature wins. And he never ran there regularly! I think that says something......



Where is he at on the all-time Knoxville win list? I haven't looked at the all-time Knoxville 410 win list in a while, but Kinser has to be top five all-time there.




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October 20, 2008 at 12:50:48 AM
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Posted By: singlefile on October 19 2008 at 11:45:17 PM

Where is he at on the all-time Knoxville win list? I haven't looked at the all-time Knoxville 410 win list in a while, but Kinser has to be top five all-time there.



Updated 8-30-08

1. ..... 92 Danny Lasoski
2. ..... 60 Doug Wolfgang
3. ..... 58 Steve Kinser
4. ..... 43 Earl Wagner
....... 43 Terry McCarl


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carol14
October 20, 2008 at 01:57:04 AM
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The very first World of Outlaw race was a 2 day show at the Devil's Bowl. Jimmy Boyd has always been credited for the first WoO A feature win... but no. Friday night Bobby Marshall won - and I have always felt that his name should be in the record books for the first WoO win. After all - he was racing the same field as Sat. night. I have never understood why the "preliminary" features were not counted.



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October 20, 2008 at 08:04:21 AM
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$2000 to win pre vs $50,000


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butchknouse37
October 20, 2008 at 09:32:10 AM
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There are almost no "preliminary" features now. Friday and Saturday are 2 seperate shows and finishing in the top 4 Friday night gets you nothing on Saturday. The only exceptions nowadays are the Knoxville Nationals and the Gold Cup.

Railbird_1
October 20, 2008 at 10:54:49 AM
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Posted By: 2020Vision on October 19 2008 at 08:20:14 PM

Obviously Prelims should count. Whoever came up with the rule that they shouldn't is an idiot. And to count them now and not back then is even more stupid!



The idiot you are referring to may be Ted Johnson.


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team wright-one
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October 20, 2008 at 10:44:56 PM
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Posted By: butchknouse37 on October 20 2008 at 09:32:10 AM
There are almost no "preliminary" features now. Friday and Saturday are 2 seperate shows and finishing in the top 4 Friday night gets you nothing on Saturday. The only exceptions nowadays are the Knoxville Nationals and the Gold Cup.


i was going to say the same thing. do the woo count the wens, thurs, fri winners at the nats as a bonafied win as well as thurs, fri of gold cup?




road king std
October 21, 2008 at 09:14:28 AM
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a win is a win. count all his sprint car victories including wingless ones! GO KING.



butchknouse37
October 21, 2008 at 10:30:40 AM
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Posted By: team wright-one on October 20 2008 at 10:44:56 PM

i was going to say the same thing. do the woo count the wens, thurs, fri winners at the nats as a bonafied win as well as thurs, fri of gold cup?



No the Nationals and Gold Cup prelims do not count. They are the only prelim nights that don't count anymore.



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October 21, 2008 at 11:35:59 AM
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The Nationals is not sanctioned by the WoO...


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racinartist2
October 22, 2008 at 08:33:05 AM
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Posted By: carol14 on October 20 2008 at 01:57:04 AM

The very first World of Outlaw race was a 2 day show at the Devil's Bowl. Jimmy Boyd has always been credited for the first WoO A feature win... but no. Friday night Bobby Marshall won - and I have always felt that his name should be in the record books for the first WoO win. After all - he was racing the same field as Sat. night. I have never understood why the "preliminary" features were not counted.



I was always under the inpression that Norman Martin won the first sanctioned WoO race (prelim night) at Devil's Bowl.



EASports
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October 22, 2008 at 11:56:24 AM
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Posted By: jackhole22 on October 20 2008 at 12:50:48 AM

Updated 8-30-08

1. ..... 92 Danny Lasoski
2. ..... 60 Doug Wolfgang
3. ..... 58 Steve Kinser
4. ..... 43 Earl Wagner
....... 43 Terry McCarl



And Kinser didn't compete against the "locals" in those wins either, unlike the guy on the top.  I don't want to take anything away from the Dude or Wolfie's accomplishment.  Wolfie had a decent amount of weekly show wins in his total, but nothing like the Dude.  Dude biggest competition was Terry McCarl and Randy Smith.  Kinser was running against the WoO in every one of his wins. Steve Kinser is the undisputed King in any sprint car catagory.  I think he has 7 wins in USAC.


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butchknouse37
October 23, 2008 at 02:12:36 PM
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He has 2 USAC Sprint wins at Eldora and 1 each at Terre Haute and the old Chicago track, Santa Fe Speedway. He has 2 Silver Crown wins at Eldora and 1 at the Indy Fairgrounds.



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