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BStrawser26
November 07, 2023 at 07:08:13 AM
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Posted By: hiroshimacarp on November 07 2023 at 06:55:26 AM

you're missing the point about how impressive it is that dewease can win at port WITHOUT running the top.  he's the only guy that can do it.  '23 was a throw away year because of what happened with the 69k.  if i'm using this site right...his worse finish at port in '22 was 9th with 2 wins...

http://sprintcarratings.com/DriverTrackSeries.aspx?DriverID=103

not a bad year for somebody who doesn't run there every week.  he had 2 wins in '21 with 2nd place finishes in the 50 and the first night of the nittany showdown.



I like Lance and think he the best driver in central PA ever. 

See all his wins and all his big wins in PA...no one even comes close.

However, his fun is mostly done at Port.  I am not saying he can't win...I am saying it would have to be a night when there is a low groove and that doesn't happen very often at the Port.


Let's go Sprint Car Racing!

Knoxville - Best Track In the USA!
Eldora - 2nd Best Track in the USA!

fiXXXer
November 07, 2023 at 09:32:47 PM
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Posted By: BStrawser26 on November 07 2023 at 07:08:13 AM

I like Lance and think he the best driver in central PA ever. 

See all his wins and all his big wins in PA...no one even comes close.

However, his fun is mostly done at Port.  I am not saying he can't win...I am saying it would have to be a night when there is a low groove and that doesn't happen very often at the Port.



You're both correct. Port is usually one dominant lane around the outside. You can pick a corner and run the bottom but to do it lap after lap most nights, especially on open track, is all but impossible if you want a chance to win. Since they reconfigured the corners and added banking to the top side, it's just too slow. You gotta scrub off so much speed. That said, Lance has won a few races in the past 3 years running the middle and bottom. No one else has done better at it than he has since they changed the track. So Port is definitely not in his wheelhouse like it was previously but he can still pull it off sometimes and definitely does it better than anyone else.



revjimk
November 08, 2023 at 12:56:56 AM
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Lance has 7 Tuscarora 50 wins

Too bad he's no good at Port..... wink




alum.427
November 08, 2023 at 07:15:37 AM
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Losing Davey Brown Sr. Is going to be an uphill struggle for Lance.  The 39m will be the car to beat in central pa next year.  Whomever is driving the 69k DBSR setups are not on the hi side of the track.  Nobody runs 3 and 4 better than LD at the groove. In fact, he has proven over his many yrs, get the car to hug the rail and you usually go forward.



BStrawser26
November 08, 2023 at 07:53:06 AM
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Posted By: revjimk on November 08 2023 at 12:56:56 AM

Lance has 7 Tuscarora 50 wins

Too bad he's no good at Port..... wink



I like Lance,  but I don't see him winning a lot at Port going forward unless they have a low groove.  

His 50 record speaks volumes for what he was able to accomplish with some really good teams.


Let's go Sprint Car Racing!

Knoxville - Best Track In the USA!
Eldora - 2nd Best Track in the USA!

revjimk
November 09, 2023 at 01:17:50 AM
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Posted By: BStrawser26 on November 08 2023 at 07:53:06 AM

I like Lance,  but I don't see him winning a lot at Port going forward unless they have a low groove.  

His 50 record speaks volumes for what he was able to accomplish with some really good teams.



Thats the difference, no longer with 69K team




BStrawser26
November 09, 2023 at 03:48:34 AM
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Posted By: revjimk on November 09 2023 at 01:17:50 AM

Thats the difference, no longer with 69K team



Over the last year and a half in the 69k he didn't win as much as he used to as well.  NO low groove most nights.


Let's go Sprint Car Racing!

Knoxville - Best Track In the USA!
Eldora - 2nd Best Track in the USA!

turn4guy
November 09, 2023 at 05:52:20 AM
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Posted By: BStrawser26 on November 07 2023 at 07:08:13 AM

I like Lance and think he the best driver in central PA ever. 

See all his wins and all his big wins in PA...no one even comes close.

However, his fun is mostly done at Port.  I am not saying he can't win...I am saying it would have to be a night when there is a low groove and that doesn't happen very often at the Port.



Assuming Fred is your #2, interested to why you put Lance ahead of him.  I'd have to really think about it tbh. They're both 1 and 1A for me. 



alum.427
November 09, 2023 at 06:34:54 AM
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Paxton and Kaufman get no love in this conversation  ?




WingedSpeed
November 09, 2023 at 06:44:23 AM
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Posted By: alum.427 on November 09 2023 at 06:34:54 AM

Paxton and Kaufman get no love in this conversation  ?



Yes I would take Rahmer and Kauffman any day over Lance.



BStrawser26
November 09, 2023 at 08:03:33 AM
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Posted By: WingedSpeed on November 09 2023 at 06:44:23 AM

Yes I would take Rahmer and Kauffman any day over Lance.



5 National open wins

7 Tusky wins

How many do Rahmer and Kauffman have combined?  It just a question.

 

Lance also has a lot of other big wins in central PA.


Let's go Sprint Car Racing!

Knoxville - Best Track In the USA!
Eldora - 2nd Best Track in the USA!

NWFAN
November 09, 2023 at 08:39:26 AM
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Posted By: revjimk on November 05 2023 at 10:28:29 AM

What a F&%$#G hater!

Kick a guy when he's down?



I must think that not qualifying when it counts is a lack of being prepared for the end result, MONEY! Something missing there...


Ascot was the greatest of all time..

West Capital wasn't half bad either..

Life is good...


WingedSpeed
November 09, 2023 at 08:52:26 AM
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Posted By: revjimk on November 07 2023 at 12:45:07 AM

You & Winged Speed hate Port Royal

But at least you don't hate Lance.... CONGRATULATIONS! wink



AGAIN!!  I don't hate Port Royal!!  Best facility in PA.  I totally dislike their track preperation!!!!



Parnelli1970
November 09, 2023 at 09:17:33 AM
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Lance got to know them through his son driving a 600cc Brent Shearer also drives one and they were packed beside each other during the 50. No snake move here Billy was already out of the car. 



Parnelli1970
November 09, 2023 at 09:53:56 AM
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Posted By: BStrawser26 on November 09 2023 at 08:03:33 AM

5 National open wins

7 Tusky wins

How many do Rahmer and Kauffman have combined?  It just a question.

 

Lance also has a lot of other big wins in central PA.



Rahmer had 4 tusky wins 1 national open.

Kaufmann 2 tusky 0 national opens.




BStrawser26
November 09, 2023 at 11:22:22 AM
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This message was edited on November 09, 2023 at 11:23:15 AM by BStrawser26
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Posted By: Parnelli1970 on November 09 2023 at 09:53:56 AM

Rahmer had 4 tusky wins 1 national open.

Kaufmann 2 tusky 0 national opens.



So Lance has them both beat even with combining them.

Next do you want to do woo and all-star wins?


Let's go Sprint Car Racing!

Knoxville - Best Track In the USA!
Eldora - 2nd Best Track in the USA!

Parnelli1970
November 09, 2023 at 01:13:05 PM
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Posted By: BStrawser26 on November 09 2023 at 11:22:22 AM

So Lance has them both beat even with combining them.

Next do you want to do woo and all-star wins?



Dewease All Stars 46 wins Woo 20

Rahmer All Stars 22 wins Woo 11

Kaufman All Stars 24 wins Woo 9.

I think all three are fantastic racers Keith being one of my favorites of all time but theses are the numbers.



BStrawser26
November 09, 2023 at 01:46:32 PM
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This message was edited on November 09, 2023 at 01:47:38 PM by BStrawser26
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Posted By: Parnelli1970 on November 09 2023 at 01:13:05 PM

Dewease All Stars 46 wins Woo 20

Rahmer All Stars 22 wins Woo 11

Kaufman All Stars 24 wins Woo 9.

I think all three are fantastic racers Keith being one of my favorites of all time but theses are the numbers.



Now you are starting to see why I think Lance is the best ever in central PA.

They are all in my top 3 of all time.


Let's go Sprint Car Racing!

Knoxville - Best Track In the USA!
Eldora - 2nd Best Track in the USA!


revjimk
November 09, 2023 at 06:17:53 PM
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Posted By: WingedSpeed on November 09 2023 at 06:44:23 AM

Yes I would take Rahmer and Kauffman any day over Lance.



surprise, surprise.....

 



revjimk
November 09, 2023 at 06:20:38 PM
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This message was edited on November 10, 2023 at 11:47:49 AM by revjimk
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Posted By: BStrawser26 on November 09 2023 at 01:46:32 PM

Now you are starting to see why I think Lance is the best ever in central PA.

They are all in my top 3 of all time.



What about Hodnett?





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