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I don't know why it didn't dawn on me, sometimes my memory hits a glitch. LOL

The first supers to go through this area, narrow body cars, that I can recall (from what I was told, and from what I have read) were in 1967. '67-'68 Wayne Cox used two cars (narrow body) to capture the titles at OkC and Lawton.

For several years until then there were 2 classes- Supermodified( straight axle, v8) and then Modified(straight axle, 6 cylinder pre war or A frame front, v8 post war cars)

The thing that killed the wide body era( I should know that one, for I have one of the VERY last widebody cars 30 feet away from me right now!). The thing that killed the widebody cars the most was the hard part of finding a Chevy body for the open wheel cars.

The rule was body, frame, engine- same manufacturer, any decade.

Around here a Chevy coupe body in those days could sell for $175 or about $800-$1,000 in todays cost. The popularity of the GM engines and the fact that many were already building tube frames and placing original frame rail pieces in the visible spots set in motion the need for a more common sense alternative. By going to the

newer style it opened up the feeder system of cars from all over the country.

And now, back to Harold Lindsey-

These days Harold is retired from the Firechief position of Wichita Falls. In recent years he has taken on the role of Head of Safety at the TMS dirt track. And yes, he's still racing.

one of the cars that went to lawton in the early 70s was the 999 car show on this site under kansas super modified, it was sold to buddy cumley and the number was changed to 333 same paint job white with purple scolleps, it was driven by harold leep in wichita. it was driven by a lot of people when buddy owned it. i believe jelly wilhelm owned it as 999.

JD,

The car Frusher won the championship in 79' is restored in Missouri. That 88 car is also the Evart Isaac / Herb Copeland #8.

Frusher owns a IMCA car out of Clovis, NM and was at the Amarillo track on the first night that we took #6 out. He climbed in our car and smiled really big...

Are you going to the Chili Bowl?

Kyle

There is or was an old Jelly in Lawton. I don't know if he still has it. 20 yrs. ago.

I was under the impression Nance owned the triple 9. But then I've also been told Nance had a no. 11. Yet the triple 9 had what is these days called a Nance body.

Right off the bat there is only one Nance bodied- Jelly framed car I know of in those days....... The Suchy 33 aka Suchy 13 as driven by Benny Taylor. But that might be a stretch.

Is the 88 restored in Missouri restored as the 88 or something else? Is it one that David Johnson from Neosho has?

Warren Vincent
Cans 4 Kansas Heroes

It is amazing what I have learn through all the e-mails, phone calls, visitors and the forum.

Brian your articles are the greatest.

I also understood the 999 was a Nance owned car or maybe it was financed by Nance.

Welder is probably on his way to Wichita Falls, LOL

Ron from Ohio do you know about this place?

Warren Vincent
Cans 4 Kansas Heroes

My wish is not to come across as a "know it all" but rather to keep the dialogue going on these cars.

Every region has had a golden age, I'm sure each has his own opinion as to when. For the CRA it was right up until they closed Ascot. USAC, it was until you couldn't get to Indy in a dirt car. USAC/Indy, I would have to say the roadsters.

These cars we pay so much attention to here were our own roadsters in a way. They would evoke a lot of passion out of modest people. Homebuilt or professionally crafted, they fused art with fiberglass and steel. Then placed those works in a lineup ready to sling the soil that God gave us. Part of saving these cars is setting aside our differences.

Brians right about the 33 before we started using Ducktail body the Jelly frame had that Nance style body. Brian some of the pictures I'm having redone for you are of this car. These pictures will history from this car through it's changes to the #13 T-TOP that Benny drove ( short stint Holman&Leep) into the orginial 13 Parson car that Dale drove the 1st time it ran on track through Benny's crash at Tulsa to the make over to the 76 Bi-Centineial special. There will also be pictures of the 2nd Parson 76 car that Leep drove along with a host of other drivers.

Kyle , Yes will be attending the festivities all week at the Chili Bowl , will you be at Paul and Mike's booth?, I would assume they will have one.

Yey I remember that 88 car at Mid America last year in the Fall ASCS race but was not for sure if it was the same frame or not. Just did not get a chance to look at it close enough.

Heck was looking through some old photos from a box that i had not opened in a while and seen some old shots of the Lawton track back when it was a really small 1/4 mile, Got a shot of Bob Hurley #04 in it. heck of a deal.

I don't think so, I have a picture of the one you're talking about i think, but I'm not sure if he would want it shown. It is in very nice shape though. That's a good thing for it is an original Edmunds.

It is the same car, but Mr. Johnson had the cage restored back to the Edmunds style. He also has a set of the orginal body molds and has made a body for the car and its on the car. The last I knew it was going to painted in Jan, and put back to the Herb Copland #8.

Back to the top, interesting thread!!!!!

Warren Vincent
Cans 4 Kansas Heroes