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I don't always agree with you on posts, HOWEVER, this overview, in my opinion, is the most accurate assessme of this situation and again, in my opinion, is 100% true and accurate. This is exactly what should be done as far as reserved seating at Port. 

That's true. I didn't think of that, probably because I would never be that ignorant. Unfortunately a lot of people are.

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Either my memory is faulty or else they changed it in recent years, but season reserved seats didn't used to be valid for the 50. I remember buying reserved seats in the past for the 50 up near the top that were normally season reserved. 

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In other news, Lincoln rescheduled the Sterner Memorial to Oct. 7th and increased the winners share to 20G. This is the same date as the WOO Nittany showdown at Port which I assume will become the make up date for the Tuscarora 50. Way to work with the other tracks Lincoln.

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Website says the 14th. However if The Tuscarora Fifty is an Outlaw race again and it probably will be I won't likely attend. Also if the decision to not race Sunday which was not going to work why not just announce that Saturday instead of pretending that they would try? When I left at 8 the Allstar teams and their shirt trailers were gone so they knew Sat. that they were not going to try to race Sunday.

To every action there is an equal and opposite reaction. Port Royal has been anything but innocent. Some of their lesser publicized promotional tactics haven't exactly worked well with other tracks. That said, both tracks will do just fine.

That's correct and it was a terrible decision. They'd be absolute idiots to even think about trying that again. Their weekly attendance has noticeably fallen off over the past 1-2 years. The last thing they can afford to do is alienate their diehards. 

No, I'm saying the nascrap people would have there crap all over empty seats and they felt it was there's.  We would drive down to richmond twice a year when it was a real racetrack. Back then some of those good Ole boys didn't want a Yankee sitting next to them. Fights would be common if you came from the wrong state.

It would also help to not be an idiot if someone allows you to sit in their unused reserved seat. We have eight sometimes they are full some times I am the only one there. I don't think it is up to me to contact the other people to see if they are coming late or not. The last time I told someone that they could sit there the guy turned out to a loud mouthed SOB that had me thinking this isn't going to happen again. The people next to me aloowed someone use theirs last year and on of the guys got drunk and started a fight. Guess what, they were told to never come back to those seats again.

I am a season reserve seat holder. I attend every week.  

I have held season long reserved seats since I was in high school. And those seats were in the old covered grand stands. Used to be, when you bought season reserved seats, all of the fair races were included in the price of those tickets($50 per seat for the season). That ended when the new grand stands were built. 

There have been times when I have had to "Re-purchase" my seats. That was for the early Lucas Oil Late Models and the Short Track Super Series races. I felt that shouldn't have had to do that, but if I wanted to attend those races, I had to. And I had no problem doing so.

I too have noticed that there are large sections of seats that have "RESERVED" stickers on them, and NOBODY sits in them, even for the big races, all season long. But, those seats are bought and payed for, If the owner doesn't use them or lets someone else use them, that is their option.

I agree with what they had done by making the whole grand stand reserved seating and letting those that purchased season seats use them(I'm sure that was why the $15 price increase was for) . I am sure that you can't go to Knoxville or Eldora and not have to buy a seat on one of their main grand stands(If I am wrong, please correct me).      

My mother , a couple of her friends , and I know many others that go to Port every week . They are all in the upper 80's. They all have reserved seats in the lower rows. I don't think it's fair to make them climb all those steps every week in that big grandstand just because people complain about buying reserved seats for ONE race a year.

Yeah you're right, it's the 14th. Sorry for the mis-info. That'll be 2 weekends in a row of good paying races in October. Yeah IDK why they didn't try to run Sunday. It was rain free until late in the evening. My guess is that Sunday would draw a smaller crowd and they would have to refund those that couldn't make it.

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I'm hearing Thursday 9/28. 

Having the 50 on a Thursday night would make absolutely zero sense unless they want to lose a lot of money.

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How would they lose money when they already have the tickets sold from the night it rained?

Not sure if they will make more or less - if they might pick this date as the make-up.   

However, with having advertised Sunday, September 9th as the Saturday portion rain date.....folks can ask for a refund....so essentially they can/may lose some presale money and it has nothing to do with the new make-up date.

They didn't get qualifying in so it's as if the show never happened. I've never known of a track to not offer a refund in that situation for a big race, especially if the make-up date is mid-week when surely a lot of people wouldn't be able to return. I don't like the 50 being a glorified outlaw race but that's really the best option now, by far(Oct. 7). Running it later in October would be very risky weather wise. Running on a week night shouldn't even be a consideration unless it's a last resort.

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I thought it was very reasoanable policy. Let the season ticket holders decide by a certain date if they are going to use those seats and if not they get sold to someone else. The problem here is that there are a lot of people who buy up a ton of reserved season seats - like 10-12 or even more when it's just them and maybe 1 other that actually uses those seats. I guess they have more money than brains but you see it Williams Grove a lot and I know several people personally who do exactly this. The upper rows at the Grove are mostly empty for regular shows and half-empty for outlaw races. This leaves the track with much less seating capacity when they actually need it - for big races like the 50 or the national open. These are the best seats in the house. It's a waste for them to go empty. 

There was track that used to have a policy that if reserved seats weren't filled by race time, they were fair game for everyone. I think it was Silver Spring. Again, a reasonable policy. If you aren't using them, what's the harm in other people sitting there?

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Agreed, it's not like they would be standing there holdin their caulfield