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July 08, 2023 at
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Posted By: WingedSpeed on July 07 2023 at 06:43:28 PM
Well if the excuse of tired owner, tired equipment wasn't a bunch of BS! Not to tired to cherry pick at WG tonight. Getting to dislike the whining car owner about as bad as the whining driver.
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I have never heard Lance whine at all in his racing career. I have heard him tell it like it is.....there is a big difference.
Let's go Sprint Car Racing!
Knoxville - Best Track In the USA!
Eldora - 2nd Best Track in the USA!
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10th place pays $8000 at the Million. That is essentially what Lance would be racing for if things went very well. I've never seen so many people in such a fuss over a guy/team that would have almost no chance to run up front in this race. If Vegas were to put odds on it, he wouldn't be in the top-20.
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I wish I had a race team so I could make all my decision to please multiple people with nothing invested.
Even though I may not know you, I
care what most of you think!
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July 08, 2023 at
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Posted By: RodinCanada on July 08 2023 at 11:47:39 AM
I wish I had a race team so I could make all my decision to please multiple people with nothing invested.
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HH has always been that way -- posters without a penny invested saying that drivers or team owners financing a team are "scared" for not towing to a particular race.
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July 08, 2023 at
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Posted By: egras on July 08 2023 at 09:17:27 AM
10th place pays $8000 at the Million. That is essentially what Lance would be racing for if things went very well. I've never seen so many people in such a fuss over a guy/team that would have almost no chance to run up front in this race. If Vegas were to put odds on it, he wouldn't be in the top-20.
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Not sure what the problem is right now but that is just an also ran car. Earlier this year they were a threat to win every race they entered....not now....they are lucky to be in the top 8. I like the team but the longer this year goes the slower that car is.
Let's go Sprint Car Racing!
Knoxville - Best Track In the USA!
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July 08, 2023 at
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Posted By: BStrawser26 on July 08 2023 at 08:52:23 AM
I have never heard Lance whine at all in his racing career. I have heard him tell it like it is.....there is a big difference.
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Holy frijoles.... BS disagreeing with Winged Speed!
Congratulations! 
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July 08, 2023 at
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Posted By: RodinCanada on July 08 2023 at 11:47:39 AM
I wish I had a race team so I could make all my decision to please multiple people with nothing invested.
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Who said he "should" or has any obligation to race there?
I'm just a fan & would like to see him give it a try...
Who ever thought Tim Schaffer would win Knoxville Nationals?
Its their decision, OBVIOUSLY.......
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July 08, 2023 at
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Posted By: revjimk on July 08 2023 at 01:28:29 PM
Holy frijoles.... BS disagreeing with Winged Speed!
Congratulations!
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Someday I will meet wingedspeed. He has had a grudge against Lance forever.
Let's go Sprint Car Racing!
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July 08, 2023 at
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Posted By: BStrawser26 on July 08 2023 at 05:55:16 PM
Someday I will meet wingedspeed. He has had a grudge against Lance forever.
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I always have and I always will.
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July 09, 2023 at
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Posted By: BStrawser26 on July 08 2023 at 11:59:07 AM
Not sure what the problem is right now but that is just an also ran car. Earlier this year they were a threat to win every race they entered....not now....they are lucky to be in the top 8. I like the team but the longer this year goes the slower that car is.
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No one on earth gets younger. Kinser became an also-ran by the end of his career, and everyone wanted to know what was wrong with the 11 team. Sammy was pushing 60 by the time he became an also-ran, and everyone wanted to know what was up with Sammy. Donny is not an also-ran, but he's going to be headed in that direction in the near future because no one can cheat father time. Instead of facing this reality, everyone tries the Ricky Warner/Ford card. Bull$@#$. He's getting older.
And then there's Lance. As great as his career in PA has been, he's not even close to the 3 guys mentioned above, regardless of the number of wins he had in his home state against them. Take Lance from 4 or 5 years ago, and he's still not a favorite to win the Million. It's not at the Grove, it's at Eldora. Guys like Sweet, Larson, Macedo, Sunshine, Gravel, Marks, Schatz, Schuchart, Rico, Gio, etc. would hand him his ass outside of PA. Let's get serious. I was in Knoxville a few years ago when Lance showed up. I was pumped to see him, because I had only seen him 1 or 2 times before. However, he could not hang. He couldn't even hang with the top Knoxville guys, let alone the heavy hitters.
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Posted By: egras on July 09 2023 at 02:03:26 PM
No one on earth gets younger. Kinser became an also-ran by the end of his career, and everyone wanted to know what was wrong with the 11 team. Sammy was pushing 60 by the time he became an also-ran, and everyone wanted to know what was up with Sammy. Donny is not an also-ran, but he's going to be headed in that direction in the near future because no one can cheat father time. Instead of facing this reality, everyone tries the Ricky Warner/Ford card. Bull$@#$. He's getting older.
And then there's Lance. As great as his career in PA has been, he's not even close to the 3 guys mentioned above, regardless of the number of wins he had in his home state against them. Take Lance from 4 or 5 years ago, and he's still not a favorite to win the Million. It's not at the Grove, it's at Eldora. Guys like Sweet, Larson, Macedo, Sunshine, Gravel, Marks, Schatz, Schuchart, Rico, Gio, etc. would hand him his ass outside of PA. Let's get serious. I was in Knoxville a few years ago when Lance showed up. I was pumped to see him, because I had only seen him 1 or 2 times before. However, he could not hang. He couldn't even hang with the top Knoxville guys, let alone the heavy hitters.
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Dewease is 58 and he is now this year finally slowing down a little. Schatz is 45 and he is only a shell of himself since Ricky left.
Let's go Sprint Car Racing!
Knoxville - Best Track In the USA!
Eldora - 2nd Best Track in the USA!
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July 09, 2023 at
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Posted By: egras on July 09 2023 at 02:03:26 PM
No one on earth gets younger. Kinser became an also-ran by the end of his career, and everyone wanted to know what was wrong with the 11 team. Sammy was pushing 60 by the time he became an also-ran, and everyone wanted to know what was up with Sammy. Donny is not an also-ran, but he's going to be headed in that direction in the near future because no one can cheat father time. Instead of facing this reality, everyone tries the Ricky Warner/Ford card. Bull$@#$. He's getting older.
And then there's Lance. As great as his career in PA has been, he's not even close to the 3 guys mentioned above, regardless of the number of wins he had in his home state against them. Take Lance from 4 or 5 years ago, and he's still not a favorite to win the Million. It's not at the Grove, it's at Eldora. Guys like Sweet, Larson, Macedo, Sunshine, Gravel, Marks, Schatz, Schuchart, Rico, Gio, etc. would hand him his ass outside of PA. Let's get serious. I was in Knoxville a few years ago when Lance showed up. I was pumped to see him, because I had only seen him 1 or 2 times before. However, he could not hang. He couldn't even hang with the top Knoxville guys, let alone the heavy hitters.
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Well said.
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Posted By: BStrawser26 on July 09 2023 at 04:21:14 PM
Dewease is 58 and he is now this year finally slowing down a little. Schatz is 45 and he is only a shell of himself since Ricky left.
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Schatz is a "shell of himself" (your words) SINCE Ricky left does not mean "shell of himself" BECAUSE Ricky left.
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Posted By: WingedSpeed on July 09 2023 at 05:51:43 PM
Well said.
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Here is how I would list the best drivers in PA in my lifetime.
1. Lance DeWease - won the most big races of anyone
2. Fred Rahmer Sr - he was crazy good.
3. Keith Kauffman - Mr Port royal.
4. Lynn Paxton - great racer
5. Steve Smith Sr - Mr Lincoln speedway
Let's go Sprint Car Racing!
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Posted By: BStrawser26 on July 09 2023 at 07:12:09 PM
Here is how I would list the best drivers in PA in my lifetime.
1. Lance DeWease - won the most big races of anyone
2. Fred Rahmer Sr - he was crazy good.
3. Keith Kauffman - Mr Port royal.
4. Lynn Paxton - great racer
5. Steve Smith Sr - Mr Lincoln speedway
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Bobby Allen and Stevie Smith get no love? Would they be in your top 10 list?
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Posted By: BStrawser26 on July 09 2023 at 07:12:09 PM
Here is how I would list the best drivers in PA in my lifetime.
1. Lance DeWease - won the most big races of anyone
2. Fred Rahmer Sr - he was crazy good.
3. Keith Kauffman - Mr Port royal.
4. Lynn Paxton - great racer
5. Steve Smith Sr - Mr Lincoln speedway
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Beside Bob and Stevie you forgot ole Kreitzy, remember him winning track championships,big paying local races like the Tusky, several outlaw victories and let us not forget the Kings Royal victory at one of your favorite tracks. I'd move Paxton down some for The Donald. Hell I'd put Kramer Williamson in front of Paxton.
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Posted By: BStrawser26 on July 08 2023 at 08:52:23 AM
I have never heard Lance whine at all in his racing career. I have heard him tell it like it is.....there is a big difference.
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i haven't seen too many people criticizing them for not going to eldor and this is a big part of it. despite how many races they've won...there's a quiet demeanor about the team. they just show up and win. no complaining about track prep, weather, or anything else. it's nice to see somebody actually let their actions speak louder than their words.
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Posted By: hiroshimacarp on July 10 2023 at 06:22:23 AM
i haven't seen too many people criticizing them for not going to eldor and this is a big part of it. despite how many races they've won...there's a quiet demeanor about the team. they just show up and win. no complaining about track prep, weather, or anything else. it's nice to see somebody actually let their actions speak louder than their words.
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I've not heard him complain either. It's mostly a pissing match between Posse haters and Posse lovers. I've not heard Lance complain.
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Posted By: beezr2002 on July 09 2023 at 10:49:55 PM
Beside Bob and Stevie you forgot ole Kreitzy, remember him winning track championships,big paying local races like the Tusky, several outlaw victories and let us not forget the Kings Royal victory at one of your favorite tracks. I'd move Paxton down some for The Donald. Hell I'd put Kramer Williamson in front of Paxton.
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6. Donald Kreitz
7. Stevie Smith
8. Bobby Allen
These are the elite 8 for the last 40 years in PA for 410 racing. This list is only for posse members and posse land wins and top finishes at posse tracks.
Kramer doesn't make the list. Not since I have been going to the races since 1983.
Let's go Sprint Car Racing!
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At 58 LD has absolutely nothing to prove. Nobody on that team has anything to prove. As Donnie stated, we need to freshen things up. They've got some big paying shows coming up thru the end of the year they don't have to go anywhere to prove anything.
As for the top 10 guys in pa. Win totals are not everything. The crew chief's that made these guys fast is also impressive.
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