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Shows how good the  top WOO drivers are when the drivers that are on the weekly podium are back markers. There will be a lot of money on the line and more than likely it will go to the top 5 WOO or Larsen when he is there. Again the dash draw was a factor.Hussets is back in the hands of a real promotor and all the improvements are a bonus. Reutzels job is secure for now and looked good .

Sounds like Hoffman 69......

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This is the best answer to the OP!!!

Within hearing distance of Tri City Speedway

I think the driver is secure in his ride after picking up $30k.  As far as the wreck goes, that is typical Husets.  It's small, banked, fast and is the kind of place that creates controversy because of how tricky it can be.  Bottom line, I will still be a Sprint Car fan and watch the Outlaws regardless of who is in the 83 or any other car.  There have been a few drivers come and go during the 61 years since my first race.  The constant is that there is always a next driver waiting in the wings and the cars are still awesome.  

Stan Meissner

I think the thread topic is valid.  It isn't about whether or not we think he should be fired.  It is about a pattern seen with Roth Motorsports.  The question brought up was pretty honest.  How many times have we seen a driver eliminated from this car and scratched our heads?  He won last night at Husets, but lots of drivers have won in the 83 car........ If history is any indication of the future, he could still very well be out of this ride before the end of the summer.  We've seen this movie before.  Do I think it's fair or would I fire him?  That's not the point.  Will he be in the ride long-term if he continues to be inconsistent?  That was the question.  I would say with every other owner on tour, Reutzel would be in the car the rest of the year.  With Roth, I wouldn't bet the farm from week to week.  

All depends on how you read the post.  It starts with performance and if you compare Aaron's performance with Pittman in 2020, it appears he will be in the ride the entire year.  (Check the outlaw website)  With the wn last night, that alone should end the speculation, which currently runs rampant in everything that goes on in the world.  Reutzel is a gasser plain and simple.  If you want to look at his run-ins fine, but he is producing results in his 1st year for Roth.

Yep well said.  Not sure how old he is but I could see him being "the guy" in a few years, if he can turn his bad nights into 6th or 7th instead of a DNF.

Well, regardless of what the car owner decides to do we did take one fact away from Tuesday night.  Driving the car pays a helluva lot better than having a good right hook and left jab.  LOL

Stan Meissner

I didn't read anything into the post other than Roth tends to have no patience with anyone.  The win last night will not end the speculation.  Roth has a history of short memory with every driver who's ever sat in the seat of the 83.  Would I fire him?  No.  He has more than earned the right to keep the ride.  Will he need to keep winning during the month of money to be the driver of the 83 in 2022?  History says yes.  

There is no chance in hell that Reutzel will be out of that car by the Nats, unless he gets hurt.  No point in even speculating who would take the seat, because it won’t be open this season, 2022, could be a different story.

Pittman has had his success in the past, the WoO championship was obviously the highlight of his career, but after that many years of racing, just how impressive is that resume? As you put it “Proven Driver” I don’t think it was him or his resume that held that seat for almost 2 seasons. I think Roth has more patience now than in years past.

 Roth wants to win and Reutzel halfway through his first season in the revolving seat already has bagged the team more than half as many wins than Pittman did in 2 years. The guys 3 ½ year old resume of 410 racing is pretty damn impressive !! There is no doubt that the resume got him the ride and IMO its what’s keeping him in the seat, for at least the season, oh and maybe Roth’s ne found patience.

I hope you are right.  If Roth ever wants to establish a consistent program again, he's going to have to stop putting guys in the seat that are constantly in fear of being out of an income by mid-summer.  He has removed talent better than Reutzel at the drop of a hat------many times those decisions have made no sense at all.  He is definitely not known for "developing" talent.  

I believe Roth has too much invested with Reutzel to send him kicking rocks so soon. He duplicated Reutzel’s entire race program, except engines. This show’s he’s willing to do what it takes to establish a consistent program. He showed extreme patience with Pittman and now, with changing his entire program, I believe he will do the same for Reutzel.

Difference between the two drivers, one is up and coming and the other is, well, you know. With all this said and done, I don’t think it’s about developing Reutzel as a driver as much as it is about developing Roth a winning program. If you compare the two years Pittman was in the seat, to Reutzel’s first half year, one could only assume Roth is somewhat happy at this point.

 Roth and Reutzel both knew they weren’t going to come out of the box and contend for a championship. The team’s goals were, Rookie of the year, top 5 in points and to win a few races. Right now, they’re hitting on two out of three and the season is far from over. So, all of this leads me to believe Reutzel’s job is safe this year and maybe even next. Well, if they hit their goals of course.

With the every decreasing number of car owners with deep pockets, I doubt very much that there is fear by the drivers when they are in the seat of this highly financed team.  Besides, a driver with any amount of skills will apply more thatn enough pressure to themselves without worrying about a quick-triggered car-owner.  There will ALWAYS be drivers available for Roth Motorsports to hire.  And there will ALWAYS be a long line of drivers waiting to get their shot. 

From what I have seen, Aaron Reutzel seems to be a very good fit when looking just at his driving skills.  Again, he is a gasser and will bring it all to the table for each race.  Will there be mistakes, yes, because he is still considered young in the experience category.  As he gets more experience, and more maturity on the racing end, the race will slow-down for him and the decisions will hopefully become mostly good ones with a rare bad decision......hopefully.  Hey, every one makes mistakes when they first get hired or moves up to a more prestigious position.  Right now in his first year on the outlaw trail, everything is happening at warp speed.  Things will slow down on the track as time passes.  

Pittman was top 4 in World of Outlaws Points each year for 7 straight seasons 2013-2019 (including with Roth), that accomplishment is one a VERY short list of drivers have done.  Also won the Big One and King's Royal.  

Impressive to me.  

If Reutzel does 7 straight years in the top 4 in WoO points and wins a championship and the King's Royal, I'd be shocked, but also impressed with anyone with that resume.