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You Guys do know that there are 7 tracks involved but there are 10 races? Most of the tracks mentioned have tried and can not handle the crowd size and purse that the three everyone is commplaining about having two. Also Lincoln and Port both give up a Sat. night of 410's for Speedweek. So you want them to do that and maybe get nothing in return especially if one is rained out. Last year I think all races got in but that seldom happens. Also The Grove's first one did not count as speedweek then they decided to up the purse for the night and start speedweek a day earlier. Do you think the teams bitch as much about the increased purse that night as a couple of dozen fans do? I have been to races in several states and other than the premier events I am pretty sure most fans don't understand the crowd size at most Pa. Speedweeek races. I am pretty sure it will be successful again this year.

who gives a shit if they support 410's. If you want to introduce new fans and also get these guys out of there comfort zone you go to new tracks! It's that simple, but no we will only race 90% at these tracks....bs. Hell even California has 5 day speedweek this year again and NOT one repeat track and the TRAVEL is definitely longer than Pennsylvania(the way you talk it's like Pennsylvania is the size of Texas or California lol). So stop with the bs about travel. It will never hold the candle like Ohio does!

Look you make good points but Bedford and Path Valley absolutely can handle a 5k to win race and a big crowd. Trailway....maybe not. All I'm saying is we in PA have it made. Our area is literally Taylor made for Speedweek and we don't take advantage of it. It makes it watered down imo when you have 6 races at our big 3. You wanna give extra support to the tracks that run 410s weekly that's awesome. I'm all for it. It can be done without giving extra shows to these tracks. But a Speedweek should be at different race tracks. 

Totally agree. This time at least they added BAPS. There is enough tracks to give other PA track a chance to make Money. Also having Hagerstown in PA speedweek is a joke as well. Bedford, Big Diamond,BAPS, Path Valley,. Ohio gets more cars as it is Allstar based. Seems like consistency with drivers. PA drivers pick and choose which ones they want to do and no sanction cars for a crowd draw. Very few do the entire week. Also have fans contributing to teams with donations but not sure we have anything like that.

All these other poor imitations of THE Ohio Speedweek need to just give it up. Stop embarassing yourselves. 

Why do all these clowns have a hard on against Hagerstown? It is 1 of the nicest 1/2 miles & it comes with the ability to pass. If the argument is because it is located in Md than you must whine if your yolk is broken in sunny side ups!   Another thing is there are 7 days in a week, wh the need for 3 more dates. Car counts only suffer more after speedweek because of lack of budgets.

You knew the track was going to be bad when the drivers started smacking the wall in warm ups & time trials. Funny how folks will try to defend the track.....the track was just bad. Probably the first dirt race all year where Larson struggled to move up FOUR SPOTS in the feature. Other than Cole Duncan (a slick track specialist) no one moved forward....Hopefully Waynesfield is better tonight!

To the people who organize it and make the schedule...do better.. Ohio Speedweek shits all over us. You have zero validation when it comes to scheduling 6 races at 3 tracks. Our "big 3" excuse...not valid. Logistical reasons....not valid.  Whatever dumbass reasons you think you have....not valid. We have the perfect tracks to have absolutely the best sprint car Speedweek on the planet and you fuck it up because of your "we want to support the tracks that run 410s weekly excuse. "  Turn it over to someone else. 

To the people who organize it and make the schedule...do better.. Ohio Speedweek shits all over us. You have zero validation when it comes to scheduling 6 races at 3 tracks. Our "big 3" excuse...not valid. Logistical reasons....not valid.  Whatever dumbass reasons you think you have....not valid. We have the perfect tracks to have absolutely the best sprint car Speedweek on the planet and you fuck it up because of your "we want to support the tracks that run 410s weekly excuse. "  Turn it over to someone else. 

Interesting, another topic that people want to complain about something because they just want to complain. Lets look at the alternatives:

1.  Path Valley - I would say a majority of drivers do not like how small it is (tearing up equipment wise).  Fred Rahmer had the deal to run it and the rumor had it that he some sort of clause that a 410 race couldn't be held for three years after the contract was over (again only speculation).  That being said, without someone like Fred running it, I do not think the current owner could run something of this scale by themselves.

2. Bedford - Probably a bit too far for a lot of guys and the cost of travel by taking the Turnpike doesn't help anyone.

3. Trailways - Never going to happen.

4. Baps - On the schedule for the first time in a long time.  Interesting that they were left off the Eastern Storm schedule.  Maybe the wingless guys got tired of not being able to see in a dust storm at Baps every year.  Again only speculation, I have no idea why they are not there

6. Grandview - Traditionally has one night and still does, hopefully the surface is better then the Eastern Storm race.

7. Selingsgrove - Still on the schedule - not usually well supported when the 410's race there.

8. Hagerstown - Probably the one place that doesn't belong but has been on the schedule since the beginning. However if you drop Hagerstown, where do replace it based on the above issues?

Williams Grove, Licoln and Port Royal put the most time, effort and money into the 410 division and should be rewarded by doing so.  You may not like on of these tracks but the bottom line is they support them week in and week out, so saying they shouldn't have two dates during speedweek isn't a logical arguement, only a personal conflict with one or all of those tracks.

Wasn't Pa. first? If so, its not an imitation

If not, congratulations. Ohio SW is damn good...

Here are my reasons:

1) I've been there once, totally boring, slow, huggy bottom race. I think it might have been Keith Kaufman's last win

2) My boyhood dirt track hero, Smokey Stover of Staunton, Va. was seriously injured there in the mid 60s. Pretty much career ending... bad vibes for me

3) Extra driving,  not especially scenic, unlike Path or Big Diamond

4) No hardon, just don't like the track

5) Clown? maybe....

Do any Speedweek races pay less than $7,000 to win? 

Interesting, another topic that people want to complain about something because they just want to complain. Lets look at the alternatives:

1.  Path Valley - I would say a majority of drivers do not like how small it is (tearing up equipment wise).  Fred Rahmer had the deal to run it and the rumor had it that he some sort of clause that a 410 race couldn't be held for three years after the contract was over (again only speculation).  That being said, without someone like Fred running it, I do not think the current owner could run something of this scale by themselves.

2. Bedford - Probably a bit too far for a lot of guys and the cost of travel by taking the Turnpike doesn't help anyone.

3. Trailways - Never going to happen.

4. Baps - On the schedule for the first time in a long time.  Interesting that they were left off the Eastern Storm schedule.  Maybe the wingless guys got tired of not being able to see in a dust storm at Baps every year.  Again only speculation, I have no idea why they are not there

6. Grandview - Traditionally has one night and still does, hopefully the surface is better then the Eastern Storm race.

7. Selingsgrove - Still on the schedule - not usually well supported when the 410's race there.

8. Hagerstown - Probably the one place that doesn't belong but has been on the schedule since the beginning. However if you drop Hagerstown, where do replace it based on the above issues?

Williams Grove, Licoln and Port Royal put the most time, effort and money into the 410 division and should be rewarded by doing so.  You may not like on of these tracks but the bottom line is they support them week in and week out, so saying they shouldn't have two dates during speedweek isn't a logical arguement, only a personal conflict with one or all of those tracks.

Good question.... who's in charge?

Last I knew it was Brian Householder. 

All of them except the last one.

At least Pa has started paying more. The final 2021 OH Speedweek show which is a pretty nice payday of $17,554 still pays less than the final Speedweek show in 1983 did. 

Total car count is the only thing OH SW is king of. Some of these facilities, well, this one literally is in a corn field. The PA tracks are far superior to attend and watch sprint car racing. And to the one that said PA Speed"week" should consist of 7 races. Well the great Oh SW lasts 9 days.