Forum: HoseHeads Sprint Car General Forum (go)
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Correct.   I refuse to buy any American made front wheel drive car.   Sorry, but the quality isn't there.    You want quality and want things to last, you're looking at Kia and Hyundai.   They've even surpassed Honda and Toyota IMO.    Not sure why American companies can't build decent FWD cars.    Ford makes pretty good trucks.   I have to drive Ford F150s at work because that's what my company leases.   I am on my third one plus I had two Rangers before and they have all been flawless, going 150,000 miles and more with no issues at all.    You'd think they would figure out how to build decent cars.

Correct.   I refuse to buy any American made front wheel drive car.   Sorry, but the quality isn't there.    You want quality and want things to last, you're looking at Kia and Hyundai.   They've even surpassed Honda and Toyota IMO.    Not sure why American companies can't build decent FWD cars.    Ford makes pretty good trucks.   I have to drive Ford F150s at work because that's what my company leases.   I am on my third one plus I had two Rangers before and they have all been flawless, going 150,000 miles and more with no issues at all.    You'd think they would figure out how to build decent cars.

Sad?  I'm confused.  Chinese racecars are ultra cool but Mexicans are sad?  More racism on Hoseheads I see  I'm actually selling some to make ends meet since my country is broke and Asia has all the money now.  Its all good though.  I'm getting around 140 bucks a peice for t shirts since a few people realize what Luna did was truly special and everyone since has settled for average or even Chinese quality.  Christ's peace.

Disagree. My proof is the 78-80 Ford Fiesta. I still drive them. And I know there German.  Tough as nails if you don't need all the amenities. Further proof is Smokey Yunick drove them. I wish I would have bought his when they sold his stuff at auction. 

"Better chance" perhaps, but many American cities empty shells, definitely

He's right though. Until the "American" (term used very loosely because none of them are really all that American anymore) companies pry their heads out of their asses and start making a competitive product with many of the overseas companies, this is how it's going to be. I started watching British Top Gear several years ago and it really opened my eyes to how far behind the "American" companies are. Jeremy Clarkson talked about it quite a bit (although he was a big fan of the Corvette ZR-1) and you'd be hard pressed to find someone who's driven more different vehicles than he has.

+1 Ford continues to produce some of the biggest pieces of crap in the American car market. The Ford focus has a junk automatic tranny that Ford denies has issues because a recall would bankrupt the company, and yet they continue to put it in their cars for at least 5 model years, maybe the Mexicans can help them fix it and stop lying to the public about their products.

When Ford can figure out how to make a car as well as the Japanese or Chinese (Kia hyundai) maybe Americans will buy Fords. Then Ford can afford to pay American employees. Until then Ford will compensate for low sales and subpar vehicles by outsourcing to other countries for low wages and cheaper manufacturing. It's the American way.

So keep blaming the other countries for taking our jobs, when it's our fault they have the opportunity to take our jobs in the first place. Maxim and J&J could be next, if they are forced to choose closing shop or moving over seas to compete we will see what happens. Let's just hope a few more great Americans dont decide to go to Mexico (or fill in any other country you choose) and start XYZ chassis company or B & B chassis company and make a good product cheaper than the American companies and force the J & J , Maxim, and Eagles to look for ways to compete for a share of the market or you might see the first Chinese made Maxims in the not too distant future.

To me the "American" argument hasn't been valid for many years.   I own four vehicles, a Nissan, Hyundai, Kia, and Toyota.  All are American made except the Toyota, which is made in Canada apparently.   Toyota does build the Camry, Highlander, and their trucks in America.      

Hey minthess, ignore the clowns with all the negativity.  Keep the true fans of the sport informed of the items you are selling.  I personally am a Chevy guy, but have enough respect for all of the drivers and owners from all eras and really appreciate seeing the different items people have to sell.   If nothing else, just to see what was a part of a particular driver and team.  As a true fan who collects sprint car items, I am always interested in obtaining unique parts, clothing and anything sprint car related.  A true fan appreciates all there is about the sport, they don't bask in the negativity.  If I am not mistaken, your subject line indicated you were going to inform the forum about items.  Some people don't have enough sense to stay away from the thread if they are not interested in the topic.  Anyway, watch the negative responses following my post.  You will witness the people of which I am referring.

I beg to differ. My Ford Focus has 140,000 & still performs flawlessly. I lost track of how many times I turned over the odometer on my old Econoline, either 352 0r 452,000 miles (OK, rear wheel drive of course)

If you care about American jobs, buy American! Admittedly, I'm not investing in a sprint car, but how many of us are? If we all bought American daily drivers, things would be better here....

Not true, as has been pointed out already most "foreign " cars are manufactured in the United States, it's Ford who's moving to Mexico, so buy Japanese cars so you can support American workers and Japanese made robots.

Wake up people it's a global economy, buying American has already been sold and divided and resold by many countries. You guys think we keep everything we produce or grow or mine in this country? Hell no, the stuff we don't use we sell to the highest bidder as in other countries. So it's a good thing to buy other countries goods as well, that's the global economy concept.

we have the food, Japan has the technology, Mexico has a labor force, and so on and so on , we all need each other. 

So everyone relax, Chinese chassis are no more an indication of a failing economy than the propaganda spewing news stations who report that the end is near. You want to help the economy get a job, any job, earn money and then spend that money on stuff, ta da economy repaired. 

Unfortunately as long as we continue to make it easier to stay home and collect a check and accept aid then get off your ass and create your own aid, we will continue to have a shitty economy but please don't blame other countries, it's we the American people who make a bad economy.

Not true, as has been pointed out already most "foreign " cars are manufactured in the United States, it's Ford who's moving to Mexico, so buy Japanese cars so you can support American workers and Japanese made robots.

Wake up people it's a global economy, buying American has already been sold and divided and resold by many countries. You guys think we keep everything we produce or grow or mine in this country? Hell no, the stuff we don't use we sell to the highest bidder as in other countries. So it's a good thing to buy other countries goods as well, that's the global economy concept.

we have the food, Japan has the technology, Mexico has a labor force, and so on and so on , we all need each other. 

So everyone relax, Chinese chassis are no more an indication of a failing economy than the propaganda spewing news stations who report that the end is near. You want to help the economy get a job, any job, earn money and then spend that money on stuff, ta da economy repaired. 

Unfortunately as long as we continue to make it easier to stay home and collect a check and accept aid then get off your ass and create your own aid, we will continue to have a shitty economy but please don't blame other countries, it's we the American people who make a bad economy.

Not lazy, entitled, one door closes another opens. Thank God not everyone who lost their job as an auto worker just threw in the towel and quit, they have the opportunity to find somthing new, not saying its easy but then again no job comes with a gaurentee that it will last a lifetime. The great depression was a result of war, and can't be compared to the present state of lazy, entitled Americans who deserve more just because they were born in the US. The company I worked for for 10 years closed, I had to take a 30k pay cut to get back on the work force at an entry level position and I have nearly worked my way back to making the same wage, I could have blamed China, or the economy, or Obama but I chose to work instead. It's up to the individual. I have noticed that the people who complain and point fingers the most rarely have what it takes to pick themselves up start over in the face of adversity.  Don't believe everything your TV tells you, the economy is not nearly as bad as the media would like us to believe. People are spending money, buying goods  (foreign and domestic) . I swear the economy and 410 racing have both been on a down slide for as long as they have existed yet here we are in 2016 and 410 racing is stronger than it has been in the last 10 to 20 years and if I lost my job today I could be working tomorrow because the want ads in my news paper has plenty of jobs. so keep letting the TV do your thinking for you and live in fear of the big bad economy. Or break out and think for yourself 

Pretty much agree with your post. Kudos to you and those who do have the initiative to start over and progress. Had to do that a couple times myself due to business closings in my earlier years. If I were to disagree with anything in your post it would be this....I don't believe people (in particular the middle class) are spending "money".....I believe far too many are spending "plastic". The plastic enables them to have the things thay would not have, if they had to pay cash for it upon purchase. That helps to keep the middle class content, and less of a threat to the super wealthy. If the middle class had to actually pay cash for all the goods they desire, they would have much less than they do and would not be very content. I have seen thousands of credit apps over the years and the amount of debt on credit cards is staggering! I have a hard time basing a good economy on our citizen's personal debt load.