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Well it seemed like 50 feet, LOL I was a kid. I wonder when the last time I was at one. It would have to be the 70's. I pretty much quit going to the state fair in the late 70's. I went to the races but stayed away from the midway.


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Posted By: Racing From The Past on July 28 2011 at 11:23:53 PM

Well it seemed like 50 feet, LOL I was a kid. I wonder when the last time I was at one. It would have to be the 70's. I pretty much quit going to the state fair in the late 70's. I went to the races but stayed away from the midway.



I was watching the Bob Ewell video and saw all the all the Nance cars and wondered what could have been in 1976. I am sure that I have told this story before but like all old racers I will tell it again. Norman and Mike had a great season in 1975 with the modified, winning the Tulsa championship and a lot of other success most of it running with the supers, so everybody was expecting that 1976 wouldd be a breakout season with Mike running with the supers all the time. Mr. Nance approached Norman and said he woul like to help with the 76 season. A car just like the Hampton 94 was being built for Norman and Mike to run. Norman had to have heart surgery in November of 75 and was doing well so I went to see him before Christmas. He still could not drive so I had to drive him around Wichita in his new Ranchero. We went by the Nance shop to see how it was coming. Mr. Nance was there and showed us how the car was coming along. Mr. Nance said "You boys take this car and race it as much as you can, I will sell you all the parts at cost that I have to buy and furnish anything that we make at no charge and will fix the car if it is wrecked". That was quite a deal for 1976. The old 71 was going to be a spare car if needed, Norman had 2 engines ready. The car was finished and painted the only thing needed was the lettering. It was yellow just like the other cars that Norman owned. That was when everybody was changing over to power steering and the units were in short supply. I had to pick up one for the old 71 from Grand Prix here in Tulsa. Mr Nance had to take the unit out of the new 71 and put it in his Sprint car. Well Norman did not like that and told Mr Nance he could keep his car and we would race the old 71. I always wondered what would have happened if mike had been able to race with the Nance car. In 1976 Mike finished in the top ten at Tulsa and Wichita and won the Dewey championship so he did pretty well with the old car. Courtney Grandstaff bought the Nance car in mid season and ran it the rest of the year as a yellow #9 and painted it red the next year. Sometimes Norman's temper got the rest of him.

Ray



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Posted By: jdsprint71 on September 11 2008 at 01:50:34 PM

What happened to the stickers like NCRA use to give out when you raced at a series race, those round stickers with gold and black with the United States and NCRA in the middle of it and what race/town it was from. Showed everyone all the wars you had been to that season and you displayed them with pride.

What happened to non wing racing , except for a 2 day stint this past Aug. here in Okla. , it's the only time you see it and dammit that made me miss it even more and sure wish someone would try the concept again in this area on a local weekly or series level.

What happened to the Non Downtube car, not many are raced anymore except for a few and sure makes me glad I kept my Stealth for future restoration, besides those Hoods on the downtube cars have WAY TO MANY DZUS, 13 to be exact and that makes it a pain to remove to get to the motor, the Non Downtube 5 Dzus to be exact and the hoods off and your looking at the motor.

What happened to day races and I mean where they start at 1 pm and race in the afternoon, guess with EPA and all there regulations that you have to deal with makes it not a viable thing to do anymore, but sure do miss them.

What happened to open trailers.

What happened to the smell of popcorn popping at the track,use to smell it all the time growing up when going to a racetrack, now hardly ever, maybe the EPA thought that was a bad thing to and put a air filter on the popcorn machine.

Whatever happened to officials who wore a complete officials uniform Pants and a Officials shirt, guess the economy made it to expensive for tracks to afford a complete uniform.

Whatever happened to the pit pass tag that you use to hang on your belt loop, now it is a wrist band and I would think that the tag is another victim of cost these days but you can't collect wrist bands like you could those pit pass tags.

Whatever happened to 50 lap A mains.

Whatever happened to contingency money for wining an A main or for a top 3 finish, you could win a case of racing oil or Plugs or Filters along with the money for that place you finished.

Whatever happened to Hand Lettered Cars, (RIP Harold Leep Jr., I sure miss ya buddy)

Just a few things I wondered whatever happened to.



If you have some time go back to the beginning of this site and read some of the stories, they are great. It takes a while but is worth the trouble.

JD when you started this topic did you think there would be as many hits on it as there are?

Ray



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I never would have believed it Ray, all the stories and very good one's, ya can learn a lot by reading them , the number of hits and especially the get togethers that are now a pretty common thing in this area. Really a great thing that has come out of it , where you can go an see the great's of the sport in the past and present and find out things you wondered about back then as for me a kid growing up liking the Super Mods and now you can find out the real story of why it was that way.

Really glad I got to wondering just "what happened to" this and that in Sept. 2008.



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I never would have believed it Ray, all the stories and very good one's, ya can learn a lot by reading them , the number of hits and especially the get togethers that are now a pretty common thing in this area. Really a great thing that has come out of it , where you can go an see the great's of the sport in the past and present and find out things you wondered about back then as for me a kid growing up liking the Super Mods and now you can find out the real story of why it was that way.

Really glad I got to wondering just "what happened to" this and that in Sept. 2008.



Have to agree with ya' J.D. it's been a pretty cool deal! I've made some good friends thanks to this forum! Looking forward to the next "Racer Night" at Holley's. Good stuff!


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Posted By: Racing From The Past on September 11 2008 at 09:46:35 PM

Do they still make the popcorn at the track or is it prepackaged?

Wasn't it Jim's Bar B Que?

As a kid my track was Mohawk Speedway west of Hutchinson. It was where Hutchinson Raceway Park is now. A 1/4 mile in a river valley. The bleachers were somewhat up on a hill side and you had a great view of the track. That is if you could see, as lighting was not so great. I just drove by Outlaw Speedway south of Muskogee tonight. The lights were so bright it was almost blinding from US 69.

 

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Warren,

I Believe it was Jim's Barbecue and he cooked it in that big barrel, awesome stuff.

You can't talk about Mohawk without talking about the king of Hutch racing,

Henry Ellington in his gold #36, and Dick Hendershot, two of the most underated

drivers in the south central region.

Ray C



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Posted By: Racing From The Past on September 12 2008 at 09:34:28 PM

"Winning the USAC vs NCRA race at OKC. That Shane wasn't going to be denied and he did it without taking anybody out."

That comment was great!!!

"and he did it without taking anybody out."

The last time Frankie Lies won the Hutch Nationals with Kenny Riffel and the #55. He parked at the finish line and the right rear tire blew out. Anyone remember that?

Welder, I know GOTRA Good Ole Time Racing Association http://www.gotra.com and the Midwest Outlaw Vintage Racers http://www.movr.us/Members.php are far from vintage, but those coupes and sedans etc would look so cool on the weekend with KAR and the NCRA Sprints.



 

Warren,

Don't forget Herby was the first to beat the USAC boys in 1983 at OKC. His drive

that night forever changed the national perspective of the NCRA. Herby in the NANCE

1n beat a USAC contingent that included Tom Bigelow, Gary Bettenhausen, Bill Vukovich,

Larry Dickson, Ricky Hood, Eddie Leaviit, Sheldon Kinser, Roger Rager, Ken Schrader,

Ron Shuman, and Shane Carson. Everyone of these drivers is in the National Sprint Car Hall

of fame, or the National Midget Hall of Fame, or both. This was the last race my dad would

ever attend, he would pass away two days later. But I remember how excited and proud he

felt over Herb Copeland's win.

Big Frank drove one hell of a race in 1968 at Hutch. That victory was his first in the

nationals since 1958, after winning the first Nationals at Taft Stadium in 1957. Warren,

I know how much you loved the Blue #55, it wa definitely one of the best 100 inch

supers ever.

 

Ray C



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Warren,

Don't forget Herby was the first to beat the USAC boys in 1983 at OKC. His drive

that night forever changed the national perspective of the NCRA. Herby in the NANCE

1n beat a USAC contingent that included Tom Bigelow, Gary Bettenhausen, Bill Vukovich,

Larry Dickson, Ricky Hood, Eddie Leaviit, Sheldon Kinser, Roger Rager, Ken Schrader,

Ron Shuman, and Shane Carson. Everyone of these drivers is in the National Sprint Car Hall

of fame, or the National Midget Hall of Fame, or both. This was the last race my dad would

ever attend, he would pass away two days later. But I remember how excited and proud he

felt over Herb Copeland's win.

Big Frank drove one hell of a race in 1968 at Hutch. That victory was his first in the

nationals since 1958, after winning the first Nationals at Taft Stadium in 1957. Warren,

I know how much you loved the Blue #55, it wa definitely one of the best 100 inch

supers ever.

 

Ray C



I keep hoping to get footage of the 1983 USAC vs NCRA show. Herb Copeland surprised this region with his epic win.




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Posted By: jdsprint71 on September 11 2008 at 01:50:34 PM

What happened to the stickers like NCRA use to give out when you raced at a series race, those round stickers with gold and black with the United States and NCRA in the middle of it and what race/town it was from. Showed everyone all the wars you had been to that season and you displayed them with pride.

What happened to non wing racing , except for a 2 day stint this past Aug. here in Okla. , it's the only time you see it and dammit that made me miss it even more and sure wish someone would try the concept again in this area on a local weekly or series level.

What happened to the Non Downtube car, not many are raced anymore except for a few and sure makes me glad I kept my Stealth for future restoration, besides those Hoods on the downtube cars have WAY TO MANY DZUS, 13 to be exact and that makes it a pain to remove to get to the motor, the Non Downtube 5 Dzus to be exact and the hoods off and your looking at the motor.

What happened to day races and I mean where they start at 1 pm and race in the afternoon, guess with EPA and all there regulations that you have to deal with makes it not a viable thing to do anymore, but sure do miss them.

What happened to open trailers.

What happened to the smell of popcorn popping at the track,use to smell it all the time growing up when going to a racetrack, now hardly ever, maybe the EPA thought that was a bad thing to and put a air filter on the popcorn machine.

Whatever happened to officials who wore a complete officials uniform Pants and a Officials shirt, guess the economy made it to expensive for tracks to afford a complete uniform.

Whatever happened to the pit pass tag that you use to hang on your belt loop, now it is a wrist band and I would think that the tag is another victim of cost these days but you can't collect wrist bands like you could those pit pass tags.

Whatever happened to 50 lap A mains.

Whatever happened to contingency money for wining an A main or for a top 3 finish, you could win a case of racing oil or Plugs or Filters along with the money for that place you finished.

Whatever happened to Hand Lettered Cars, (RIP Harold Leep Jr., I sure miss ya buddy)

Just a few things I wondered whatever happened to.



There are a lot of great stories on this post. I have been reading 3 or 4 pages at a time and had forgotten some of them

 

Ray



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Ya know was mainly going to races since mid 60's to early/mid 70's at mainly Lawton Speedway till mid 70's,with the exception of venturing south of the Red River to Wichita Speedway on a few occasions back in the early 70's with my dad and then my parents and me started venturing out to some of Lanny Edwards other race tracks he owned like Dallas Spring Nat. in 1976 and of course the first WoO race in 78 and other shows at Da Bowl and also venturing up to Tulsa Speedway in the late 70's as well and watching Bullet Bob Ewell lead races and then motor let go and end up with a DNF on the 5/8 ths ,cannot remember how many times that happened but it was several, this was when he was driving his own stuff and had Branch's Dis.Auto Supply sponsoring him out of Dallas,it was before the RySon deal existed, learned some from helping him and his brother back then on how things worked on then what was a 100" Super Modified , the getting out and going to NCRA's in the late 70's and not missing one in 1979 and also watching ,listening and paying attention then ,but it seemed after about 1980/1981 which I was a Sr. in High School did I really get the bug to want to get a race car.
Remember use to go to Pits as then you were old enough at 16 , I'd just by a Pit Pass and just walk around and ask questions and ask some more questions and then a few more questions and listened a lot.

Never really looked at the money end of it back then but when you get real serious about it and you are NOT rich and loaded, the money end of it seems to be at the forefront most all the time and found that out in 82 when I started thinking about buying a Openwheel car then.
Knew $5-10 G's to purchase a Car was not pocket change and was going to have to save up the loot , My Parents also said no race car till after graduation of College which I was able to do in 1986, was not an easy task for a 18/19 yr. old kid to save money but knew I wanted to get a car and kind of set my mind on it, thought it was really a cool thing to travel and head up and down the road pulling a race car and racing it at a track and seeing what you had for em that night and the thrill of the competition.The ability to compete and watch your stuff you put work and hours in at the shop during the week and go out and see what it would do and the outcome/conclusion on a Fri. or Sat. night would be???.

Was not really sure about the Champ Dirt Cars back then in mid 80's as they were quite a pricey deal (or so I thought back then),now they don't seem that pricey.
Fortunately a longtime friend from up in OKC let me in on some info about a class that Bud Carson was going to start up in OKC to replace the costly Champ Dirts which was called the Super Modifieds and the Wingless Modifieds which both ran 2 Bar. Carbs which the Super Modifieds evolved into what is known as the Super Sprint class at SFS till it shut down,I tried the Super Modifieds for 2 yrs. and quickly seen needed to step back down to the Wingless Modifeds V8's and 6 Cyl's then which is now what they call a Champ Sprint class today ,they ran the wingless 100" cars on the 1/4 mile at OKC and was starting to run at a few other places as well and like I said has evolved into the Champ Sprint Class of today, really surprised this class has lasted as long as it has, usually the 5-7 cycle pertains to classes , start out cheap then innovation etc. step in and boom once relatively inexpensive class is now expensive and less and less cars show up so ya just start up a new class and the cycle goes again ,this is not to say the class has not become more expensive as it has , some rule changes to the 2 Bar. classes over the years has been good and some I wonder why they did it , seemed to just drive the costs up more. Thought the Brodix Alum. Spec Head was a good change and Bottom end changes were OK , but the Roller Cam still baffles me on why , I heard over and over back then , breaking solid cams , running lobes down etc. , then they should have put a lift/spring rule on them , been easy to check but I guess opening it up was easier than trying to police it, but it sure openened up a bunch more stuff needed to be competitive then.

Still think they ought to just take the wings off of the Champ Sprints and run'em that way , better racing in my opinion, won't EVER happen but I sure wish it would , sure miss the non wing days of 100" cars of the late 80's/early 90's.
Just thought I would contribute to the thread some Ray.

 

J.D.



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Ya know was mainly going to races since mid 60's to early/mid 70's at mainly Lawton Speedway till mid 70's,with the exception of venturing south of the Red River to Wichita Speedway on a few occasions back in the early 70's with my dad and then my parents and me started venturing out to some of Lanny Edwards other race tracks he owned like Dallas Spring Nat. in 1976 and of course the first WoO race in 78 and other shows at Da Bowl and also venturing up to Tulsa Speedway in the late 70's as well and watching Bullet Bob Ewell lead races and then motor let go and end up with a DNF on the 5/8 ths ,cannot remember how many times that happened but it was several, this was when he was driving his own stuff and had Branch's Dis.Auto Supply sponsoring him out of Dallas,it was before the RySon deal existed, learned some from helping him and his brother back then on how things worked on then what was a 100" Super Modified , the getting out and going to NCRA's in the late 70's and not missing one in 1979 and also watching ,listening and paying attention then ,but it seemed after about 1980/1981 which I was a Sr. in High School did I really get the bug to want to get a race car.
Remember use to go to Pits as then you were old enough at 16 , I'd just by a Pit Pass and just walk around and ask questions and ask some more questions and then a few more questions and listened a lot.

Never really looked at the money end of it back then but when you get real serious about it and you are NOT rich and loaded, the money end of it seems to be at the forefront most all the time and found that out in 82 when I started thinking about buying a Openwheel car then.
Knew $5-10 G's to purchase a Car was not pocket change and was going to have to save up the loot , My Parents also said no race car till after graduation of College which I was able to do in 1986, was not an easy task for a 18/19 yr. old kid to save money but knew I wanted to get a car and kind of set my mind on it, thought it was really a cool thing to travel and head up and down the road pulling a race car and racing it at a track and seeing what you had for em that night and the thrill of the competition.The ability to compete and watch your stuff you put work and hours in at the shop during the week and go out and see what it would do and the outcome/conclusion on a Fri. or Sat. night would be???.

Was not really sure about the Champ Dirt Cars back then in mid 80's as they were quite a pricey deal (or so I thought back then),now they don't seem that pricey.
Fortunately a longtime friend from up in OKC let me in on some info about a class that Bud Carson was going to start up in OKC to replace the costly Champ Dirts which was called the Super Modifieds and the Wingless Modifieds which both ran 2 Bar. Carbs which the Super Modifieds evolved into what is known as the Super Sprint class at SFS till it shut down,I tried the Super Modifieds for 2 yrs. and quickly seen needed to step back down to the Wingless Modifeds V8's and 6 Cyl's then which is now what they call a Champ Sprint class today ,they ran the wingless 100" cars on the 1/4 mile at OKC and was starting to run at a few other places as well and like I said has evolved into the Champ Sprint Class of today, really surprised this class has lasted as long as it has, usually the 5-7 cycle pertains to classes , start out cheap then innovation etc. step in and boom once relatively inexpensive class is now expensive and less and less cars show up so ya just start up a new class and the cycle goes again ,this is not to say the class has not become more expensive as it has , some rule changes to the 2 Bar. classes over the years has been good and some I wonder why they did it , seemed to just drive the costs up more. Thought the Brodix Alum. Spec Head was a good change and Bottom end changes were OK , but the Roller Cam still baffles me on why , I heard over and over back then , breaking solid cams , running lobes down etc. , then they should have put a lift/spring rule on them , been easy to check but I guess opening it up was easier than trying to police it, but it sure openened up a bunch more stuff needed to be competitive then.

Still think they ought to just take the wings off of the Champ Sprints and run'em that way , better racing in my opinion, won't EVER happen but I sure wish it would , sure miss the non wing days of 100" cars of the late 80's/early 90's.
Just thought I would contribute to the thread some Ray.

 

J.D.



Great story, if they took the wings off it would save maoney and make the racing better. Mike Petrers and I were watching 2 young brave drivers in a heat race in the 80s and he said "take the wings off and then see how good they are"

Ray



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Mike P. is right on that, takes also the $$$ equation out of it some, not all of it by anymeans but it does some , plus just watchin'em set'em in sideways and especially on a bullring is just good stuff!!.

 

J.D.



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What happened to the stickers like NCRA use to give out when you raced at a series race, those round stickers with gold and black with the United States and NCRA in the middle of it and what race/town it was from. Showed everyone all the wars you had been to that season and you displayed them with pride.

What happened to non wing racing , except for a 2 day stint this past Aug. here in Okla. , it's the only time you see it and dammit that made me miss it even more and sure wish someone would try the concept again in this area on a local weekly or series level.

What happened to the Non Downtube car, not many are raced anymore except for a few and sure makes me glad I kept my Stealth for future restoration, besides those Hoods on the downtube cars have WAY TO MANY DZUS, 13 to be exact and that makes it a pain to remove to get to the motor, the Non Downtube 5 Dzus to be exact and the hoods off and your looking at the motor.

What happened to day races and I mean where they start at 1 pm and race in the afternoon, guess with EPA and all there regulations that you have to deal with makes it not a viable thing to do anymore, but sure do miss them.

What happened to open trailers.

What happened to the smell of popcorn popping at the track,use to smell it all the time growing up when going to a racetrack, now hardly ever, maybe the EPA thought that was a bad thing to and put a air filter on the popcorn machine.

Whatever happened to officials who wore a complete officials uniform Pants and a Officials shirt, guess the economy made it to expensive for tracks to afford a complete uniform.

Whatever happened to the pit pass tag that you use to hang on your belt loop, now it is a wrist band and I would think that the tag is another victim of cost these days but you can't collect wrist bands like you could those pit pass tags.

Whatever happened to 50 lap A mains.

Whatever happened to contingency money for wining an A main or for a top 3 finish, you could win a case of racing oil or Plugs or Filters along with the money for that place you finished.

Whatever happened to Hand Lettered Cars, (RIP Harold Leep Jr., I sure miss ya buddy)

Just a few things I wondered whatever happened to.



There are a lot of great stories here. If you are an old 100 inch super fan,you will love them



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Ray,

 

Had not realized the ol "What ever happened to" post had been over a year since a post on it.
Agree lot's of stories.

 

J.D.    



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Posted By: Sprint97 on May 20 2009 at 11:44:51 AM

Ray,...Yes Grady drove my car twice that I recall. It was at Topeka 1/2 mile in 69. He won the main, Dale Reed drove the T Coipe during warm ups at Topeka 1/2 mile in 66 when Ray Lee was late getting to the track. Dale was running it so deep in the turns I found myself walking on tip toes trying to help him get through the turns. He and Grady were together that night. Grady drove it the same way when he drove but it was the sprint painted white with red trim three years later.

Ray Lee Goodwin starting driving for me the 66 season (Jack Belk drove 1/2 of 64 & all of 65 & deceided not to run the north circuit) Ray Lee wanted to run sprints & I wasn't to crazy about running without a cage. Every chance he got, he would go run a USAC or IMCA sprint race. I had several week ends with other drivers on a temporary deal. He convinced me to sell the T Coupe & build a sprint. He even found a buyer. But he continued to go run USAC when he got a chance.

In 68 he started driving for Swenson (24 car out of Linclon) but came back & drove mine some in early 69. He went back to the 24 car about mid season. I did not have a steady driver the rest of that season & sold the car after winning the Oklahome City IMCA race in Oct 69 with Dick Sutcliffe driving. I did mechanic the #26 car that Roy Hibbard was driving in 70, the #26 car is on page 32 of High Plains Thunder. On page #33 is the T Coupe car I built & ran in 66 & 67 with a different body with Bob Williams in it. It is also on 56 & 57.

I was not at the OKC Winternationals in 69, only at the IMCA Sprint race with Sutcliffe.....Luther



I hope I'm replying to Luther, if not my apologies.

i saw in a previous post you mentioning Dee Zellmer. He drove for Bill Hoffman, my grandfather.

i was in Jr High at the time and living in Joplin Mo. I was tall for my age so got into the pits and saw

some great racing back then. My grandfather had owned race cars since the 50s. In 1966/67 Dee drove

a flat head ford powered "bug", I think that referred to the wheel base at the time. It was built by Pappy Weld and

was blue with a white 5 on it.

We raced in Joplin,

Neosho and down at Beaver Lake in Ark. The car was not the latest and greatest, but Dee could drive the heck out of it.

i have some pictures somewhere of the car, as I got older I was allowed to iron out the track and hot lap it.

the car was eventually sold in around 1971/72 to some one in Carthage Mo. Dee came down to the Devils Bowl

in the 90s and  we shared some great memories of that era.

I drove asphalt sprints in San Antonio while stationed in the service. Started racing formula cars in the 80s

with the SCCA and just retired from racing. 



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A 100 pages on this thread, since Sept. 2008 , lot's of stories , thoughts etc. in it. Priceless and good stuff!!!.

 

 

J.D.  



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Posted By: Scotty1n on March 02 2010 at 08:14:11 AM

Although this is not related to the usual 100" or NCRA topics.........(ahem) ........does anyone remember when Gary Mussatto ran the shows at Topeka, etc. he always wore a shirt that had a light blue square sewn on the back? You could look from the stands and pick him out easlily from all the others moving around in the pits. (he rarely stood in one place too long) Was that his intent or did he just like to wear that shirt to the races? I was always going to ask him but he passed before I got the chance.



Gary Mussatto was my dad.  The story behind the square goes like this.  Dad worked for Patterson Chevrolet in Ottawa at one time and they sponsored his car.  The also provided him with white shirts nicely embroidered as advertisement for them.  When he left them he decided the shirts were to nice to throw away so my mother sewd a blue square on them - blue that matched the color of the old "65" car.  The project then went unfinished, the plan was to then iron on the number "65" so that he had classy shirts and he was easily matched to his car.  We never had trouble finding dad from the stands.  That square stood out no matter how many people were there.  

We miss him!



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Thank you for the information.  That clears up the questions I have always wondered about.  Yes, miss Gary too!



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Jack rich built the ncra type cars and midgets stopped making sprint cars after buddy Taylor was killed in one of his cars ? Right?





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