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gators0849
October 04, 2015 at 11:11:08 PM
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This message was edited on October 04, 2015 at 11:11:25 PM by gators0849

Stevie Smith holds off Schatz for third National Open title




revjimk
October 05, 2015 at 12:30:02 AM
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Woohoo... Go Posse!



cubicdollars
October 05, 2015 at 07:09:25 AM
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Hats off to David Gravel for running 9th in the B.


 

 

 

They don't even know how to spell sprint car much less chromoly...http://www.ycmco.com



BigRightRear
October 05, 2015 at 07:45:37 AM
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Maybe cubicdollars can post the money breakdown for those poor outlaws smacking around at the back of the pack last night?

granted...we had half the cars of the Kville Nationals...but I don't recall many outlaws in the D and C from this year Out there in parts unknown...maybe all of them are all down on motors this week?

 

 


Lincoln 1845 ft/.35 mile T1=118MPH 
Eldora 2287 ft/.43mile T3=135MPH
Port 2716 ft/.51 mile T3=TBD
Grove 2792 ft/.53 mile T3=135MPH
Selinsgrove 2847 ft/.54 mile T1=136MPH
"I didn't move to PA from El Paso in search of better 
weather." Van May

Truth teller
October 05, 2015 at 07:49:33 AM
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Posted By: cubicdollars on October 05 2015 at 07:09:25 AM

Hats off to David Gravel for running 9th in the B.



Solid showing to finish midpack in the B. Saldana, Sides, Madsen and Johnson could not even get out of the C. In Madsen's defesen, I am sure he put a whipping on that D-main field.



csracing72c
October 05, 2015 at 08:33:31 AM
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Schuhart 3rd. Now that is impressive




BigRightRear
October 05, 2015 at 08:38:09 AM
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Posted By: Truth teller on October 05 2015 at 07:49:33 AM

Solid showing to finish midpack in the B. Saldana, Sides, Madsen and Johnson could not even get out of the C. In Madsen's defesen, I am sure he put a whipping on that D-main field.



in an interview with the press, Madsen has reffered to the Grove as "the only road course" on the tour...last night's A main made good on the comment as he was nothing more than a moving chicane for the leaders...unable to realize that he was getting lapped and raced for position.

 


Lincoln 1845 ft/.35 mile T1=118MPH 
Eldora 2287 ft/.43mile T3=135MPH
Port 2716 ft/.51 mile T3=TBD
Grove 2792 ft/.53 mile T3=135MPH
Selinsgrove 2847 ft/.54 mile T1=136MPH
"I didn't move to PA from El Paso in search of better 
weather." Van May

MSPN
October 05, 2015 at 09:06:33 AM
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Qualify poorly and start about where you finish in your Heat and you are done.  The most ho-hum National Open of all-time, which is a nice way of saying boring and that has nothing to do with where everybody finished because it looked like hot lap session after hot lap session, most of the night.  Sorry if you paid and went, not many did.  I paid for the PPV and got an education in Buffering, c'est la vie....



J&J
October 05, 2015 at 09:21:40 AM
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Posted By: cubicdollars on October 05 2015 at 07:09:25 AM

Hats off to David Gravel for running 9th in the B.



It was great to see Smith back in victory lane at the grove seeing it only took him another 20 years or so to get there!

considering :

he started up front

races there every week/shiw!!!!!

his car ownre/ crew chief has 100 wins there knows how to set the car up there

seems to me if he didn't Win it he would of looked like an idiot!! With those kind of stats

look at that start up line up you would of thought the podium would of been posse podium 123 

nothink against Stevie he's a fantastic driver!!! at the Grove and deserves a win there after 20 years Hats and BELTS off to him he def deserves last nights W

if you were to put Stevie in the 7 car where do you think he would of finished?????

 




dsc1600
October 05, 2015 at 09:22:59 AM
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No wonder no one goes to the local shows anymore. The highest finishing weekly runner was 5th.

The go-kart track for time trials was worth the price of admission alone.



Jimcoaster
October 05, 2015 at 09:31:03 AM
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Posted By: gators0849 on October 04 2015 at 11:11:08 PM

Stevie Smith holds off Schatz for third National Open title



As I say several times every year.............  Another POSSE whuppin' in PA!    As per usual!!



blazer00
October 05, 2015 at 10:10:03 AM
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Posted By: Jimcoaster on October 05 2015 at 09:31:03 AM

As I say several times every year.............  Another POSSE whuppin' in PA!    As per usual!!



I love it.......The Posse vs the WoO at Wiliiams grove is something like 128 WoO, 66 Posse.....and you are idiot enough to brag over one win....Too bad Donny couldn't have started side by side with Stevie. But don't get me wrong, I enjoyed Stevie a lot when he ran with the Outlaws and he is still a great driver, so I was happy to see him win. I'm a fan of all drivers, and root for many regardless of where they are from. I'm not so locked in on one particular group that I'm blinded and ignorant of reality.




Truth teller
October 05, 2015 at 10:14:20 AM
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Posted By: blazer00 on October 05 2015 at 10:10:03 AM

I love it.......The Posse vs the WoO at Wiliiams grove is something like 128 WoO, 66 Posse.....and you are idiot enough to brag over one win....Too bad Donny couldn't have started side by side with Stevie. But don't get me wrong, I enjoyed Stevie a lot when he ran with the Outlaws and he is still a great driver, so I was happy to see him win. I'm a fan of all drivers, and root for many regardless of where they are from. I'm not so locked in on one particular group that I'm blinded and ignorant of reality.



BHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. You mad, bro? Go on with the name-calling. That will teach him.



BigRightRear
October 05, 2015 at 10:16:26 AM
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Donny did get a double file restart after an open red with just 7 to go...he went high thru 1-2 and got smoked by the 51s.

arm chair your expertise all you want fellas...we were there...there was close racing all thru the pack...including the 4 back marker outlaw cars that were smacks arums in front of the leaders.


Lincoln 1845 ft/.35 mile T1=118MPH 
Eldora 2287 ft/.43mile T3=135MPH
Port 2716 ft/.51 mile T3=TBD
Grove 2792 ft/.53 mile T3=135MPH
Selinsgrove 2847 ft/.54 mile T1=136MPH
"I didn't move to PA from El Paso in search of better 
weather." Van May

blazer00
October 05, 2015 at 11:25:24 AM
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Posted By: BigRightRear on October 05 2015 at 10:16:26 AM

Donny did get a double file restart after an open red with just 7 to go...he went high thru 1-2 and got smoked by the 51s.

arm chair your expertise all you want fellas...we were there...there was close racing all thru the pack...including the 4 back marker outlaw cars that were smacks arums in front of the leaders.



I saw the entire race on PPV....I'm not arm chair racing. Just saying that take the win graciously, but for heavens sake it shouldn't lead to bragging like it's a regular lop sided occurance. Two WoO drivers in the history of the Open each have 5 wins. The WoO have more than doubled the Posse in wins at the Grove when they go head to head. To put it in perspective, it would be like a Minnesota Twins fan bragging to a Yankees fan that the Twins have won two World Series. And don't overlook my comment that I am happy for Stevie. He's been overlooked by car owners for too long. Fred Rahmer knows what it takes to be a winning driver. Hats off to Fred for putting Stevie in that car!




MSPN
October 05, 2015 at 11:28:42 AM
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Close racing in the mostly single file follow the leader affair, more like a F! race than a sprintcar race?  Luckily, there was a sprintcar race held over the weekend that saw Tim Kaeding come from 14th to win in a feature that had 8 former Outlaw winners in it, actual racing, gotta love the mid-West.....



cubicdollars
October 05, 2015 at 11:48:06 AM
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Posted By: MSPN on October 05 2015 at 09:06:33 AM

Qualify poorly and start about where you finish in your Heat and you are done.  The most ho-hum National Open of all-time, which is a nice way of saying boring and that has nothing to do with where everybody finished because it looked like hot lap session after hot lap session, most of the night.  Sorry if you paid and went, not many did.  I paid for the PPV and got an education in Buffering, c'est la vie....




 

 

 

They don't even know how to spell sprint car much less chromoly...http://www.ycmco.com


BigRightRear
October 05, 2015 at 11:51:47 AM
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I saw the entire race on PPV....I'm not arm chair racing. Just saying that take the win graciously, but for heavens sake it shouldn't lead to bragging like it's a regular lop sided occurance. Two WoO drivers in the history of the Open each have 5 wins. The WoO have more than doubled the Posse in wins at the Grove when they go head to head. To put it in perspective, it would be like a Minnesota Twins fan bragging to a Yankees fan that the Twins have won two World Series. And don't overlook my comment that I am happy for Stevie. He's been overlooked by car owners for too long. Fred Rahmer knows what it takes to be a winning driver. Hats off to Fred for putting Stevie in that car!



So you will be posting stats for Kville that show their locals have a better record at their National event?

should we get out the popcorn?


Lincoln 1845 ft/.35 mile T1=118MPH 
Eldora 2287 ft/.43mile T3=135MPH
Port 2716 ft/.51 mile T3=TBD
Grove 2792 ft/.53 mile T3=135MPH
Selinsgrove 2847 ft/.54 mile T1=136MPH
"I didn't move to PA from El Paso in search of better 
weather." Van May


Johnny Utah
October 05, 2015 at 12:17:25 PM
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I could be completely talking out of my ass here, and someone will surely correct me, but didn't the Outlaws dominate when central PA ran a different rules package from the Outlaws?  Now that PA guys and the Outlaws have been running the same rules for a few years, the amount of PA wins have increased dramatically.  Is this correct?



blazer00
October 05, 2015 at 01:03:56 PM
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Posted By: BigRightRear on October 05 2015 at 11:51:47 AM

So you will be posting stats for Kville that show their locals have a better record at their National event?

should we get out the popcorn?



I already stated I'm a realist....of course the WoO drivers have dominated the Knoxville Nationals also. The Nationals have, however, been won many times by drivers who were Knoxville regulars at one time.  Posse drivers of course have won their biggest event also. Unlike Posse regulars, the top Knoxville drivers still tend to travel more and several current regulars have run pretty regularly with the WoO. Knoxville regulars have not only won WoO events at Knoxville, but also many tracks accross the country. More Posse drivers travelled in the past than they currently do. The bottom line is this....the WoO have dominated the statistics everywhere they have run. That alone does not diminish the quality of racing in PA, the Midwest or anywhere else. It's just stating a fact that night in and night out, the WoO drivers and teams are the best. Hope you enjoyed your popcorn.... Smile





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