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the whole time everybody was griping at each other i was looking at my brother and sluggo talking, i looked over and someone was getting into it with my dad so i went over there

oh yea im still waiting on a phone call.

I wasn't there to see it, but it sounds like this was a bad deal. Anybody that really knows Thomas knows that he is a great person and a fierce competitor. I hope he is ok and back behind the wheel soon!!!!!

Bobby Springer #25

From what I understand, he has some internal bruising, some torn muscles in his shoulder and is VERY sore today.

I told you guys we would have something new to gripe about LOL.

Either way, (not trying to insult anybody) this is a classic example of why sometimes people should keep their mouths shut. Things get said/overheard/exaggerated/blown way out of porportion, ect. that always ends up with more people angry than there should be and the simplest mistake get's turned into a full blown riot. I don't know any of you people or the drivers, but it really sounds like a situation that is best left to the drivers to resolve on their own. I really hope nobody actually said they wished Tillison (sorry if I spelled that wrong) was dead. That's just plain cruel, and totally messed up. Not to mention it's libal to bite the person in the butt.

Hope Tillison is ok

Christina
Air Max HVAC Systems

Oh and by the way, a comment was made last night that Tillison and Becker are cousins, which I don't know what that would have to do with anything, but they are not cousins. I do not think what happened on the track was intentional, but after what happened in the pits after the heat race, you can not blame people for thinking otherwise. Then to make matters worse are the comments that was made at the fence at the time of the incident. People were down there yelling "that's what that MF deserved and I hope that MF is dead" That is totally uncalled for. The season is now over so it's time to move on.

Oh and by the way...Congratulations to Kevin for winning the Championship. People can say all they want but you are by far the cleanest driving factory stock driver out there. People want to say negative things about you but these are the same people that you loaned parts to all year to keep them on the track and in the points but now that is all forgotten. Keep your head up as you have done all year and be proud.

Well if u heard it, Who said it? It wasn't the driver, it wasn't Joey? How do u know it wasn't someone else he has had it out with this year? Y is it that this driver gets bashed so hard when there was no punches thrown no actual fight, just a temper gone bad in his own pits. Y is it that Joey gets banned indefinitely for pullin down a window net, and other ppl can get in all out brawls and get 2 weeks after they finish out their night of racing? Tilly was met with a pipe wrench a few weeks ago, and that guy was banned for the year and back the next week... There r others that have been to several pits this year to fight and absolutely nothin was ever said about them on here or by officials at the track... Its all about who you know and who you BLOW!!! Apparently if you don't have money to pay ppl off or threaten to get lawyers, or take officials to lunch once a week, your pretty much screwed....

Shawn tries to get along with everyone and very rarely has any problems with other drivers, but yet some of the cleanest drivers on here has taken his a$$ out this year, Guess Friday he was just too slow and got spun, but it should B ok cause these guys helped him with parts, lol Not to mention a few weeks ago when my own family took him out but thats ok too cause were family...O and wait he was put on the tire too but Tilly wouldn't do somethin like that..Nobody is that clean, shit happens on the track and ppl forget about it a week later, thats racin'

Point is U ppl see what u want to see, Hear what you want to hear and screw the ppl it brings down while your talkin' shit!! It was wrong for whoever was at the fence sayin that shit, and it is wrong for u ppl to be on here sayin shit about Dustin.. That absolutely makes u no better than them!

This is my 2 cents, Shawn can't help it he has a wife thats mouth overloads her ass!!!

~Sumer Jorski~

O' and wasn't someone blackflagged for puttin the 12 in the wall Friday? A 14 or 15 yr old kid? And hasn't he already been barred this year for something? And how sportsmanship is it when during the heat race when dustin was spun your whole family stands up and cheers? Not to mention my mom asked about Dustin at the fence and some guy from your crew jumped on her sayin who gives a shit about dustin, and had plenty to say that i wont put on here. So lets get the whole story out there instead of tryin to look like the good guys! This whole year has been a big conspiracy, With motors blowin and friends takin ppl out and ppl callin the track and havin certain things checked.. If thats the way racin' goes when your in the points battle, then I am damn sure glad were in the back!!

What makes it even worse is it is the fans family and wives, and not the drivers that causes the problems! Myself included!!

~Sumer Jorski~

i will make whoever it is (because i dont know names because ppl wont pos them)a deal since i am a spectator at the sfs now you come find me,show who said the dead comments i will set them straight

not being rude about it because i agree that was way out of line but the thing all fingers are pointing to me and i dont like words being put in my mouth

.................................................................thanks, joey buntin

Sumer,

First of all I would like to say that I do not plan on getting on here and bickering back and fourth with you or anyone else. Therefore, I am stating facts and facts only.

First.....Kevin does not and does not plan on having ANY issues with Dustin or Shawn. Sunday, after the race, Dustin came and shook Kevin's hand and congratulated him on the championship.

Now before I start in on other issues, you stated that my family was cheering when Dustin was spun out. I was not up there at the time so I can not say they were or they were not. If they were, I will take responsibility for that and would like to apologize to Dusty. Now are you willing to take responsibitity for your family's actions? (90, 87, 73, 37, 82 and 137)

Kevin has a booing section in the stands that consist of YOUR family. They boo everytime he gets a flat tire or gets SPUN OUT on purpose from one of your family members, but that's ok It adds a little excitement as we all know there is not one racer out there that is liked by everybody.

When Tilly crashed on Sunday, there was a guy down there in a 90 shirt with his hat on backwards yelling all of this stuff. It was not Joey or Joe. Now at first I thought maybe he just likes Justin and Jeremy and is wearing their shirts, until later in the evening when everytime someone with a Becker shirt walked past him, he approached them yelling in their face that we are "cheating MF" and he was seen talking to Clara on many occasions. Again, no big deal, to bad he doesn't have the balls to say it to Kevin's face. The only thing that Joe said down at the fence was that Kevin paid off 5 drivers to win the championship. (#8, 55, 85 26 and don't know who the 5th one was.) Always an excuse.....

On Aug. 24th, after Kevin was in THE wreck that took him out of the race, I was standing at the fence and Larry Walker from the 90 pit got in my face and clapped real loud and was cheering. Keep in mind this is the same guy that went to Tilly's pit with the pipe wrench and threatened to kill him with it and is allowed back in the pits. So we do agree about that one.

That same evening, Joey and Joe came to OUR pit after the race and asked if someone from our pit flipped Joe off and yes they did....after Joe intentionally took Kevin out of that race. Someone from one of YOUR family pit came to Kevin before the race and told Kevin to watch out for Joe because "he was going to do whatever it took for his kid to win this championship" Now Kevin and I realize that Dustin had nothing to do with that situation just like Kevin had nothing to do with one of his pit crew flipping Joe off. While they were in OUR pit, Joey said that he would be out there Aug 31 with his car and he would intentionally take Kevin out. The security was standing there and heard Joey make the comment. They went to Sluggo and told Sluggo what was said. Joey was still allowed to race the following Friday. Kevin called Sluggo that following Tuesday and told him that Dustin had nothing to do with any of this.

As far as your comment that several people have been to other pits, that does not pertain to Kevin. He is always telling the guys from his pit "to keep their asses in our
pit and to keep their mouth's shut."

Now as far as the lawyer deal, it worked for some of your family members a few years ago didn't it? That whole deal on Friday with the bushings was BS. It was a last ditch effort to get Kevin AND Dustin out of the championship, too bad it backfired. Had it not been for Shawn and Bob Stewart, it's hard telling what would have happened with the bushing deal. Thank you Shawn and Bob.

Now the part about who you know and who you BLOW....I have no ideal what that's about because I know there isn't any blowing on our part. lol. And we sure aren't taking people to lunch.

What's really sad is the fact that nobody is man enough to tell Kevin that he did a good job this year and he deservcd it.....It always has to be a conspiracy or something of the sort. It just make everyone running their mouth look like sore losers.

I talked to Kevin about the fact that you think he spun Shawn out the other night. He said he did not touch Shawn and if he did he would of been the first one over there to apologize. Kevin and Shawn have talked to each other since than and there is no indication that Shawn feels that way, so does Shawn feel that way or is that your opinion?

Sumer, If it were up to me, Kevin would not be back at the fairgrounds to race. There are times I go home at night and feel really stupid for some of my reactions. I sometimes do get caught up in the drama but it's because of all of the BS. I too, run my mouth and my husband gets mad at me but i get sick of the same people getting away with all the crap. You can put restrictors on the cars but that will not change the fact of the other crap that goes on....

Last but not least if anyone needs to talk to Kevin his # is 250-5459

Sorry I got so long winded.

Okay... so this is getting pretty ridiculous! I have been going to the races since I was a kid and lately it's hard to even stomach the thought of being there! Everyone wants to bitch and moan about people cheating and trying to take each other out... You can't actually win a championship and ENJOY it!!! Someone's calling you a cheater and trying to ruin it for you just because they are jealous that there little plan to protest some random thing backfires b/c enough drivers stand up and say "we got them too!" I have been around racing for a long time! I choose who I am going to cheer for by lots of things.. the driver, the car, the style of driving... lots of things... Personally I like Factory stocks the best (b/c that's what I grew up around)... but I love all of it! I have favorite drivers in other classes too! But for FS... my favorite driver is KEVIN BECKER!!! He is one of the nicest guys you will ever meet and would do anything for any of the other drivers out there! (even the ones who have spun him out, cussed him out, etc)... he is in a class all by himself! He is a good driver... THAT'S WHY HE FINISHED 1st!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Not because he payed the track to cheat for him! If he was cheating, wouldn't he have been protested and caught? Unlike some of he drivers out there, he doesn't know what is going to be protested the week before! And it's not Kevin's family saying crap to GIRLS when they walk by! That's right... I wore a Kevin Becker shirt on Sunday (because I am a fan) and I can't even walk through the stands without a guy and his girlfriend saying (exact words) "Hey you! Hey you!!! Yea you bitch... Don't cheat!! Kevin Becker sucks and he cheats! F**K you!!! You suck! Cheaters!" Okay now 2 things to keep in mind! He was holding a beer... and wearing an ALLEN shirt! Imagine that! Talk about cheating! That's like the pot calling the kettle black! And why pick on a girl... I'm not in the damn car! I don't work on the car! I don't have anything to do with the car! I just cheer for the best driver to win! So if you are such a man and have so much to say... Go tell the driver dumb ass!! Not some girl that walks by that just happens to be wearing a #65 shirt! That would also be the same guy who chose to yell and scream that he hopes Tillison would die and that's what you get MF!!! Talk about classy! And I don't know if he was an Allen, but I do know this... I wouldn't want a loser like that wearing a shirt supporting my favorite driver!!!!

Way to go Kevin!!!!! Back to Back and going for # 3!!! You can do it!!! And you deserve it!

the 90 crew and the 87 crew dont even talk to us at the races yes they are my cousins and blood is thicker than water but at the races they act like i dont exist (which is cool with me because racing doesnt need to come between me my cousins and my aunt )but not to be rude again but we dont wear allen shirts and allens dont wear buntin shirts i think i got a good idea of who was saying the comments now that there is some light on it but im letting it go

................................your friend,low life, joey buntin

Joey,

I read some of your other posts about you being a spectator now and coming and showing you who said it.... I know it wasn't you! The same guy that started ragging on me when I walked by said it! I didn't say a word to him and he had no reason to call me a bitch... or to say crap like that to Tillison! He was kind of tall, skinny, had his hat turned backwards, wearing an Allen shirt (a lot of people have them that's why I said I don't know if he's an Allen)....And everyone that wore a Becker shirt, got his 2 cents!!!!!!!!! So whoever is saying that it was you, it wasn't! I know what you and your brother look like! I have talked to your brother and his g/f face to face! It was not You, your dad, or your brother Dusty! But whoever it was, it was very rude!!!!

i agree i wasnt angleing that to you its just that so many ppl got involved and i dont know half of themand whoever the other ppl on tidbits are who seem to know everything know nothing at all about me or wat is going on..................................................joey buntin

Kevin just got off the phone with Joe and Joey and everything is cool. Joey knows who the guy running his BIG mouth is and he is not in anyway connected to Joe, Joey or Shawn.

Again, if anyone has any questions or comments, Call Kevin

Evedently it is a big deal or u would not even say something!

There for I will tell u or who ever else Leave us out of all your bull crap,

Let me tell all of you that seem to know everything that is going on!!!!! """"""How is that?
I DONT EVEN KNOW ALL . LOLOLOLOLOLO WISHED I DID......SO ANYWAY

Just because someone is TALKING to me, ""DID YOU WATCH ME ALL NIGHT THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT TALK'S TO ME so did they all say something too, If you were watching your car or all other cars u would not know what or who is going on with me now would you? Like I said before there are alot of people that wear our Tshirts and I cant tell ya who says what but I will tell you this if we got something to say WE will say it to your face so keep your bull crap to your self.Its really funny when something happened to Justin your crew in the stands stood up and yelled so you know what I dont care keep your post to your self.And do me a favor NEXT TIME GO UP AND ASK THIS SO CALLED PERSON WHO

HE OR SHE IS OK..... and last but not least remember they were asking why the Allen's was at the stage for

Your information JUSTIN won the A feature so we were getting a trophy so thats some more of your business.thats why we were out there,,,,,,,

so like I said when you have over 15 Tshirts that people wear,doesn't mean a thing.

No 90Racing.... I don't sit and watch you all night... but right after the drunk loser ran his mouth at me for no reason at all.... he walked right back over to your little crowd and started talking to YOU!!! How convenient is that? And you were laughing!!! haha... so it's really funny huh?

So keep on laughing as you get your A Feature trophy.... But you guys aren't the one's getting the CHAMPIONSHIP trophy!!!! (AGAIN)...... I guess having the car inspector in your back pocket Friday night didn't work for you did it? I guess it did on Sunday though b/c he was seen nowhere around your car as it was being torn down.... but your crew was seen going back and forth to the trailer!

I don't know why the Allen's even come to the SFS anymore!!! Tim was dirty driver.... I hope your boys don't turn into him!!

And another thing about so many people having Allen t-shirts... more power to you! Because if I were a driver... I wouldn't want people wearing my teams shirt and talking like that guy was!!!! Especially to a GIRL!!! Grow up! Move on! Just because someone "other than you" wins the championship, that doesn't make them a cheater! Or should I say... just because You pay people to win, that doesn't mean everyone does!!!!!!! I actually feel sorry for J & J.... they have to put up with all of the crap that their family says and does and they probably don't even know half of what goes on!

Carla,

First of all not everything I posted was dircted towards u! Even tho u apparently took it personal.

Second I am amazed at how Joe can be already sittin, spun out backwards on the track, and take Kevin out! He had already been hit by several cars before Kevin hit him. I guess Joe got spun on purpose knowing Kevin was somewhere behind him! I guess he knew Kevin was gonna come hit him and screw his car up too! Damn he is a genius!

Third, Ya I will take responsibility for my family, lol next time out I will be sure and get on the P.A. and tell them to b sure and not cheer if Kevin gets spun, cause thats what it would take to talk to all the family I have out there...They r never all in one spot at one time. But I will apologize for them!

Fourth You are correct about Shawn not havin a problem with Kevin, He could go out there and run through the infield and t-bone Shawn and he would still not have a problem, that is just the kind of person Shawn is, He takes racing real lightly and does not get mad about anything... He asked who spun him and as far as I could tell Kevin was the only one around, I could b wrong cause I was not in the car and don't know. But that was my opinion! Shawn could give a shit less! He will probably be mad when he gets home and reads all I have put so far, But O well

Fifth About the paying ppl, thats kinda like the "if the shoe fits," When ppl know that others have been paid for other things, it kinda looks bad on ya'lls behalf. Ppl do tend to speculate!

Now, I was by know means saying my family was saints, cause they are not we all do our shit talkin' we all have talked shit about one another, we have our differences at the track! But when it comes to other ppl we will have each other backs! Thats what family is for.

And I guess since everyone is postin their phone numbers I should too! lmao

249-7370 Good lookin' guys only please j/k

~Sumer Jorski~

You are a" LIAR" and hell ya I will tell you to your face!!@I did not see anybody say or do anything like that to you I dont even know who you are so how did I laugh about something like that. That is not fair girl for you to say that. DO YOU EVEN KNOW WHO I AM !!!!!!!!!!!! I didn't even have a crowd by me. I would not be that low to say anything like that we have (I) have a heart and I breath just like everyone else I was back and forth from the pits to the stands. And you know like I said leave us out of all this crap!!!!!!! If someone was wearing a Allen T shirt that doesn't mean we even know what, when where or how shit is being said or done. so I tell ya what miss know it all point them out to me the next time we are all out at the races. You know what girl Tim isn't a dirty driver or my boys so keep talking Shit about us we are USE TO IT HONEY. Believe me you are giving someone else a break so just keep it coming I could write a Book baby but I will leave it like it is. Thank You for being a ALLEN Fan we love em all. The sad thing is Justin and Jeremy doesn't even say a word,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, so until next time.You should get to your head running bull crap

Clara

Wow, for bein just an innocent girl you sure are ballsy under that fake name you made up just today! lol

And you guys on here too, sure can talk the crap under your fake names, broncho 84 and Gr8 1!!!

Be a real man or GIRL, and post your name after your comments!

~Sumer Jorski~