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 The economy still stinks and I don't see it getting better until a true capitalist inhabits the White House again and some Fed Gov. regulations on business are eased. Obamacare is choking the economy as well with its idiot restrictions/penalties on business owners. The only reason the unemployment rate is down is so many people have dropped out of the work force and they aren't counted as unemployed. I feel lucky to be seeing any races at all.

Early to mid 90's had 17 cars at the Big E.

Even with only 17 Woo cars the fans got to also see a full USAC/CRA nonwinged show. Great value for the price of admission in my book,

Do you care to comment on the low turn-out at Eldora last night with Late-models and Modifieds on the card?  Both groups were racing for 5 grand to win.  After all, according to you these groups have it all figured out.

Go do something constructive like changing your butt plug.

Its a long haul down there fre a race thats not a points race for anyone but the WoO cars. The gas bill is too big, plus lodging. I think the turnout of cars during the California swing while up North was great, and KWS could be great all year. But you need time to service cars, and it is a big calender for KWS already, if you added much more, I think you would hurt car counts, its not cheap running these cars, and the payout out of top 5 isn't going to covery many bills!

I tell it like I see it.

the woo shows in KWS territory had an average of around 35 or more cars. tulare and chico had over 40. the local 410 guys supported the woo in their area just fine, aslso while getting in some of their own series shows that were not associated with woo. running winged 410's in so-cal is like trying to run them in egypt. california is a big state. it isn't the pea patch like back east where you can drive 500 miles and go through 5 states. the tow for some nor cal teams would be close to 1200 miles round trip. an easy 1000 miles for most others.

to indy and beyond!!

Same store as last year, the KWS teams owe the PAS nothing, and its very apparent that isnt going to change anytime soon. PAS promoters know the risks of low wing car counts when they make the decision to schedule WoO at the PAS, thats why they added the CRA show to the schedule last year. 

A 360 team at this point still has to join the Outlaws at a cost of over $300.00 to race, and also would have to buy a flat wing to be legal. Drop the membership fee if they are not going to race with the WOO, say more than 2 times, and allow 360 cars to run their dished wings, you might get more local cars. Just my .02

Dave Boy

One thing you have to look at is where are the cars sponcers at. Most of the KWS cars are based out of norcal, they also have a 360 or 2 to put in and run local. Saturday there were 3 tracks running 360's Placerville, Marysville, Petaluma. Some of the KWS cars ran at one of the 3 tracks with a 360. Or they ran the Chico friday night race. That is a long tow south for 1 race.

Looking at the Kings Speedway WoO results. 2 of the drivers ran a 360 at Placerville. Other drivers it looks like they run just one show a weekend. Then there were 2 cars that crashed on lap 4. They maybe a 1 chassis in trailer other one at home if they have a backup ready. Others the car owned doesn't want to travel that far for one race.

USAC National has the same problem IMHO they get good counts at sprintweek and early season and late shows when other tracks aren't running.   But They are both a different ballgame than weekend racer.

They break They're out a few weeks or a season.

Woo, USAC have a spare they wheel out or change a motor just because it doesnt take off right.

Yeah, there the best of the best and teams even good at a track their running know they got not chance at top ten money so they run elswehre where they think they can win.

I'd be hard pressed to name a winged team south of Tulare.

I only go to WoO races when they are in good winged 410 country. I pay to see the top class, not the support classes. Unless the other class is 410 non wing cars. No way I pay $30 - $40 for 17 410's. One big crash in a heat race and the A main is a 12 car affair. Calling the next round of heats "qualifiers" is a joke. With only 17 cars...they are all qualified for the A main when they buy a pit pass.  And adding a few winged 360's to fill out the field is worthless too.

Love the WoO teams, it's the managment of that series I am not crazy about.

I'm really happy for all you guys that live in area's with lots of cars and are spoiled with getting to watch 30 cars plus on a weekly bases or real close by. But for those of us that don't or can't drive half way across the country every weekend to see a race....calm down and be quite... the rest of us thank the Woo for coming to town once a year and gladly pay the price to see 15 to however many show up to put on a race that we otherwise never get to see.....and the packed stands prove alot of people feel the same way.....come on May first  got our 8 tickets and we are ready to see  some speed....now if the rain would just give us a break this year.

After watching the highlights the fans at Perris got to see one of the best Woo races of the year. After that feature I would not have been complaining about only seeing 17 cars.

Lack of water usually unhooks them just fine.  I am finally realizing a nice variety of shiny equipment is a pipe dream when you can only get 17 identicle average ugly cars powered by identicle average engines.

Luna's Ford engine style that won 2 WoO titles and 3 
Kings Royals before a weight rule against the best EVER
in their prime and now DOMINATES super dirt late model
racing is no longer allowed/wanted in a WoO sprint
car.... Was Luna a miracle worker?

Oh well.  Who needs Stewart/Kahne corporate Government Motors funding when we have plenty of awesome chinese hardware right here in central PA?  My antique lawn mower looks more impressive everyday. 

Luna's Ford engine style that won 2 WoO titles and 3 
Kings Royals before a weight rule against the best EVER
in their prime and now DOMINATES super dirt late model
racing is no longer allowed/wanted in a WoO sprint
car.... Was Luna a miracle worker?

"Gimme fuel, Gimme fire, Gimme that which I desire!"