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Topic: TONY STEWART HAD A CHOICE ------ BRAKES OR GAS
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August 11, 2014 at
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Posted By: Still Lookin on August 11 2014 at 10:14:12 AM
I respect opinions but TONY STEWART HAD A CHOICE, GAS OR BRAKE and you can clearly see and hear he chose the gas and tried to roost him. No matter where this driver was running, he hit him with the rear tire trying to roost him when he could have just hit the brakes. Tony did not try to hit him intentionally but he did hit the gas when he got to him and if you've been around dirt racing it is clear Tony hit the gas trying to roost him. Why didn't he hit the brakes?
If you are driving down the street and someone steps in front of you do you hit the gas or brakes? Tony hit the gas trying to roost him, that is where he put himself negligent, it was ignorant. Vehicular manslaughter regardless of the other drivers reaction.
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Still Lookin you are an idiot!! This was a horrible accident that didn't have to happen. Every Sprint Car track I have ever raced at already has a rule that you DO NOT get out of your car until the safety crew get to you unless the car is on fire. Why would you get out of your car on a dimly lit track in a black driving suit and black helmet and run into traffic? The car in front of Tony just barely saw the kid in time to miss him and Tony had no where to go. May Kevin RIP but now some A--hole lawyer is going to get a hold of the incident and just because Tony has money and is very well known will try to make a name for himself on the misfortune of others. That is the problem with our country and legal system today!! Keep your head up Tony, you are great for the sport of Sprint Car racing and racing in general!!
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August 11, 2014 at
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Still Lookin you are an idiot!! This was a horrible accident that didn't have to happen. Every Sprint Car track I have ever raced at already has a rule that you DO NOT get out of your car until the safety crew get to you unless the car is on fire. Why would you get out of your car on a dimly lit track in a black driving suit and black helmet and run into traffic? The car in front of Tony just barely saw the kid in time to miss him and Tony had no where to go. May Kevin RIP but now some A--hole lawyer is going to get a hold of the incident and just because Tony has money and is very well known will try to make a name for himself on the misfortune of others. That is the problem with our country and legal system today!! Keep your head up Tony, you are great for the sport of Sprint Car racing and racing in general!!
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August 11, 2014 at
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August 11, 2014 at
12:56:20 PM by dbbd022
Tyler Graves also stated Stewart pinched Ward into the frontstretch wall, causing the right rear tire to go down and the spin at the exit of turn 2. With all due respect to the Ward family and Tyler Graves....it doesn't look like that on the video.
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August 11, 2014 at
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Posted By: Still Lookin on August 11 2014 at 10:14:12 AM
I respect opinions but TONY STEWART HAD A CHOICE, GAS OR BRAKE and you can clearly see and hear he chose the gas and tried to roost him. No matter where this driver was running, he hit him with the rear tire trying to roost him when he could have just hit the brakes. Tony did not try to hit him intentionally but he did hit the gas when he got to him and if you've been around dirt racing it is clear Tony hit the gas trying to roost him. Why didn't he hit the brakes?
If you are driving down the street and someone steps in front of you do you hit the gas or brakes? Tony hit the gas trying to roost him, that is where he put himself negligent, it was ignorant. Vehicular manslaughter regardless of the other drivers reaction.
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still lookin. lets say you are cruising down the avenue and some guy cuts in front of you and run 's you up over the curb. he goes aorund the block, comes back around . because you're pissed do you run out in the road, almost get run over by another car, and get in front of him and let him runover and kill you?
think about it. we are all in bad sorts due to this tragic event, it has affected and will affect us all for years to come.
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August 11, 2014 at
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Posted By: Still Lookin on August 11 2014 at 12:03:32 PM
@cheroger Not up for lipping off or getting in to a debate of degrade, if I wanted to I would have joined along time ago.
I have always chose to just read hoseheads and not get involved as a poster but the 'things to consider' thread that was started was assinine.
We all know the first mistake was getting out of the car in anger.
But we all know in our time behind the wheel of dirt cars that the last second mash of the gas that Tony did was to roost him. When you don't see a pedestrian until last minute is your first reaction to hit the gas or the brake? Tony is no dummy and I am sure saw the Kevin but I guarantee you did not intend to hit him.
Did Tony hit the brakes or the gas?
I dont hate Tony, never have, in fact I feel for him and hindsight is 20/20 and I am certain he regrets doing what he did.
There is two families in shock. Its terrible.
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When you signed up to troll this story on hoseheads, did you (metaphorically) hit the brakes or the gas? You said you are not for lipping off or getting into a debate of degrade and yet.... did you hit the brakes or the gas?
DID YOU HIT THE BRAKES OR THE GAS??????????????
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August 11, 2014 at
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Posted By: Still Lookin on August 11 2014 at 10:14:12 AM
I respect opinions but TONY STEWART HAD A CHOICE, GAS OR BRAKE and you can clearly see and hear he chose the gas and tried to roost him. No matter where this driver was running, he hit him with the rear tire trying to roost him when he could have just hit the brakes. Tony did not try to hit him intentionally but he did hit the gas when he got to him and if you've been around dirt racing it is clear Tony hit the gas trying to roost him. Why didn't he hit the brakes?
If you are driving down the street and someone steps in front of you do you hit the gas or brakes? Tony hit the gas trying to roost him, that is where he put himself negligent, it was ignorant. Vehicular manslaughter regardless of the other drivers reaction.
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Let me ask you Still Lookin were you at the track when this all took place??
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August 11, 2014 at
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some of the engine revs are sort of in sync with the passage of cars within the video and some are not...which is a signal that the revs may well be cars closer to the camera that happen near the same time as the images you see.
the slow motion videos are pretty disturbing but it appears the 14 car was going straight at the point of contact and the cars path was a result of the clip and not the other way around.
again...this is a sad day for eveyone as lives are all changed for the worse as a result.
I see a few other cars come into the frame after the 14...Zemkin on the way bottom and another car or two up in the middle.
is it possible there was more agreesive driving between the two in the laps preceeding the spin? the video is only a snapshot from a single vantage point...and maybe Ward scrubbed the wall on a lap prior?
Lincoln 1845 ft/.35 mile T1=118MPH
Eldora 2287 ft/.43mile T3=135MPH
Port 2716 ft/.51 mile T3=TBD
Grove 2792 ft/.53 mile T3=135MPH
Selinsgrove 2847 ft/.54 mile T1=136MPH
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August 11, 2014 at
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Posted By: bighess11 on August 11 2014 at 12:59:59 PM
Let me ask you Still Lookin were you at the track when this all took place??
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Wellsaid bighess11!
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August 11, 2014 at
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Posted By: Still Lookin on August 11 2014 at 10:56:27 AM
Cmon! Did he hit the brakes????? Tyler Graves was right there and also says Tony gassed it sideways. He killed the guy, it's that simple. Tony himself has cracked and gone on the track to confront people, did they run him over?
If you are under caution and coming up upon the accident and safety workers are you not paying attention?????
Everyone needs to face it and realize Tony Stewart no mater his legacy is going to have to pay for his choice, in jail and lawsuit.
I will ask again, DID TONY HIT THE BRAKES?
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No way tony ever spends one day in jail. Jail time requires evidence... Not what someone thinks happened. All it takes is for one juror to have doubt and he is a free man and the government is out large dollars.
It it is a tragic situation but the ignorance needs to stop.
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August 11, 2014 at
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Posted By: Still Lookin on August 11 2014 at 12:09:32 PM
@cheroger YOU WROTE "Tony has dedicated his life to racing and has given back a tremendous amount of time, energy, and money to the dirt track community."
Does this mean he runs under different rules than you and I? You are sucked in, he also makes allot of money on guys like you and I, its a two way street. He is a good guy and does allot for others there is no doubt. He makes his living off buts in the seats and does give back.
Does this mean he can rip headphones off an official which he has done, break a girls back, mistreat people???? No, he is human like you and I and just another racer on the track. Whether it was Tony or some guy named Dave, it was wrong to hit the gas instead of the brakes.
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Hey, dumbass, thats not my quote!!
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August 11, 2014 at
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Like Tony intended to kill somebody.
Really sick of the bullshit coming from people who know nothing about racing giving their opinion.
Please stay away from our sport when you do not know a damm thing about it.
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August 11, 2014 at
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I agree...and remembering that wrongful death suits do not require anywhere near the "intented to kill" threshold...they are nowhere near the fat lady singing.
Lincoln 1845 ft/.35 mile T1=118MPH
Eldora 2287 ft/.43mile T3=135MPH
Port 2716 ft/.51 mile T3=TBD
Grove 2792 ft/.53 mile T3=135MPH
Selinsgrove 2847 ft/.54 mile T1=136MPH
"I didn't move to PA from El Paso in search of better
weather." Van May
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August 11, 2014 at
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A lot of people looking to cash in from someone that has made themselves into something!
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August 11, 2014 at
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The sound/revved motor everyone hears might not have even come from Tony's car. Also depending on how far away the camera was from the car there would have been a delay.
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