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Team x7
September 11, 2013 at 08:38:58 PM
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It really sucks that TK is not coming back east with the world of outlaws...I thought for sure with the way his season has been going and all the outlaw wins he has this season that he would for sure stay with them and beat on them a little more!




opnwhlr
September 11, 2013 at 09:13:04 PM
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You have to understand there is more to racing than running the WoO schedule.

TK is a true racer and he "goes where he wants and races what he wants to race."

To TK, I'm guessing he thinks some upcoming races here are more important than following the circus the next month or so.


 
I LEARNED ESP FROM MY MOM

"PUT YOUR SWEATER ON: DON'T YOU THINK I KNOW WHEN 
YOU'RE COLD?"

dsc1600
September 11, 2013 at 09:34:34 PM
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I highly doubt TK passed up 10 races that pay at least 10k to win including the 50k to win natty open. Probably a decision made by Roth to avoid the travel expenses of 6 more weeks on road and 2 cross country trips.




opnwhlr
September 11, 2013 at 10:54:00 PM
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Probably a decision by TK of how he feels about racing a big event before the home crowd.


 
I LEARNED ESP FROM MY MOM

"PUT YOUR SWEATER ON: DON'T YOU THINK I KNOW WHEN 
YOU'RE COLD?"

lasoskifan
September 11, 2013 at 11:11:00 PM
Joined: 06/16/2005
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Posted By: dsc1600 on September 11 2013 at 09:34:34 PM

I highly doubt TK passed up 10 races that pay at least 10k to win including the 50k to win natty open. Probably a decision made by Roth to avoid the travel expenses of 6 more weeks on road and 2 cross country trips.




Sounds like a good business decision to me. 



nancespeedequipment1n
September 11, 2013 at 11:55:03 PM
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Rob hart is no longer with the team.




shrek2259
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September 12, 2013 at 07:46:45 AM
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Posted By: dsc1600 on September 11 2013 at 09:34:34 PM

I highly doubt TK passed up 10 races that pay at least 10k to win including the 50k to win natty open. Probably a decision made by Roth to avoid the travel expenses of 6 more weeks on road and 2 cross country trips.




all i will say is you are wrong


Robert Bond    San Jose Ca

vande77
September 12, 2013 at 07:50:53 AM
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It makes no sense to follow the Outlaws back to the east coast.  Let's say you had an AVERAGE FINISH of 3rd in all the remaining races (10) - that's less than $30,000 in prize $$$,  per mapquest, it's roughly a 7200 mile trip for them to leave Antioch, follow the Oulaws and then return to CA, so when you figure in fuel, you are spending $7000 just to TRAVEL from track to track (plus wear and tear on the truck and trailer), then add in hotels, meals, and what it costs to put the car on the track and you've spent more than what comes in (Joey Saldana said it costs $3000 PER RACE to unload the car from the trailer on Winged Nation Tuesday). It doesn't make any financial sense for ANYONE, let alone a CA based race team.



shrek2259
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September 12, 2013 at 07:55:57 AM
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Posted By: opnwhlr on September 11 2013 at 09:13:04 PM


You have to understand there is more to racing than running the WoO schedule.

TK is a true racer and he "goes where he wants and races what he wants to race."

To TK, I'm guessing he thinks some upcoming races here are more important than following the circus the next month or so.




there is more to LIFE than running the WoO schedule and TK dosnot run WITH the WoO he runs AGEANST the WoO he runs with his family the KWS and the rest of NorCal


Robert Bond    San Jose Ca


shrek2259
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September 12, 2013 at 08:05:19 AM
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Posted By: vande77 on September 12 2013 at 07:50:53 AM


It makes no sense to follow the Outlaws back to the east coast.  Let's say you had an AVERAGE FINISH of 3rd in all the remaining races (10) - that's less than $30,000 in prize $$$,  per mapquest, it's roughly a 7200 mile trip for them to leave Antioch, follow the Oulaws and then return to CA, so when you figure in fuel, you are spending $7000 just to TRAVEL from track to track (plus wear and tear on the truck and trailer), then add in hotels, meals, and what it costs to put the car on the track and you've spent more than what comes in (Joey Saldana said it costs $3000 PER RACE to unload the car from the trailer on Winged Nation Tuesday). It doesn't make any financial sense for ANYONE, let alone a CA based race team.




i dont think Mr roth cares what it cost for TK and the team to be on the road Mr roth wants to see that team run around home some i think that has more to do with the team leaving for the road late and coming home early more than anything ells


Robert Bond    San Jose Ca

BigRightRear
September 12, 2013 at 08:59:57 AM
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many driver / car combinations are DNQ material on Posse soil...who has provisionals


Lincoln 1845 ft/.35 mile T1=118MPH 
Eldora 2287 ft/.43mile T3=135MPH
Port 2716 ft/.51 mile T3=TBD
Grove 2792 ft/.53 mile T3=135MPH
Selinsgrove 2847 ft/.54 mile T1=136MPH
"I didn't move to PA from El Paso in search of better 
weather." Van May

opnwhlr
September 12, 2013 at 10:54:39 AM
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Whatever.

He isn't going.

He's staying home and racing before his "homies."

We are fine with that decision and really could care less what a "few" feel regarding his decision.


 
I LEARNED ESP FROM MY MOM

"PUT YOUR SWEATER ON: DON'T YOU THINK I KNOW WHEN 
YOU'RE COLD?"


davemahar
September 12, 2013 at 11:18:25 AM
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I am just tickled that TK will be running out here. Yeah, we got Kyle and Abreu and they are terrific, but for my money TK is the most exciting driver to watch. To see him run up against the fence at Tulare is heart stopping. TK will be running this Sat. at Fernley in Nevada and the next Sat. at Tulare with the King of the West series. Then on Oct. 12 he should be at the Cotton Classic, a KoW show at Hanford which is a must see show. The frosting on the cake will be the Trophy Cup at Tulare on Oct. 17,18 and 19. On the 17th T Cup runs a 360 nonwing show with around 60 cars and on the 18th and 19th runs up to 80 winged 360's. After seeing the Outlaws at Chico last week, where they put the fast cars in front, the Trophy Cup is always the best show in Cal., because the fast cars start in the back for the features. BTW No more outlaw shows for me. They run hotlaps over and over until the track is dry slick. By the time for the feature there was so much dust and dirt, sitting in the bleachers was miserable.



Mr. Highside
September 12, 2013 at 11:25:27 AM
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9 wins, 26 top 5's, 34 top 10's with the outlaws this season is awesome. Hope they are taking this time to set up a full Outlaw deal for next season.

Only 11 WoO races left. I think TK can find 11 races in Cali by the time the season is over.

As for the earnings; A win in Cali pays 2k-3k, and the TC pays vary well. 2,3k is like a top 5 with the outlaws without the hotels and huge fuel bills. (1k to start KWS Nevada races)

Another thought is; Tim needs to get used to the 360 again before the Trophy Cup. He ran the Johnny Key and said the 360 felt way different after only running 410 only all season.



NWFAN
September 12, 2013 at 12:55:25 PM
Joined: 12/07/2006
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 tk can kick there azz anywhere..agreed on getting ready for tulare as a 360 is a different

monster to tame...


Ascot was the greatest of all time..

West Capital wasn't half bad either..

Life is good...


dirtface
September 12, 2013 at 05:20:33 PM
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We have the cotton classic and the Trophy cup coming up . Think Roth wants to stay home where the fan base is. We also have KWS and usac 360s at Tulare on sept 21st. See all of you there.


We need more sprint car racing at our home track.

Dhowe11164
September 12, 2013 at 07:59:36 PM
Joined: 07/18/2005
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Tim will more than likely be at the Fall Nationals 2 day show at Chico at the end of the month as well. He has been there the past few years. 



dirtface
September 12, 2013 at 08:52:57 PM
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Posted By: Dhowe11164 on September 12 2013 at 07:59:36 PM

Tim will more than likely be at the Fall Nationals 2 day show at Chico at the end of the month as well. He has been there the past few years. 



Somebody told me last year I should go to the fall nationals. Just went to calistoga and gold cup . Long drive from orange co.


We need more sprint car racing at our home track.


WoOSprint514
September 12, 2013 at 08:55:52 PM
Joined: 11/21/2011
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He's just afraid to fall flat on his face against the Posse. Haha.




Wheelie
September 12, 2013 at 09:18:18 PM
Joined: 12/26/2004
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Posted By: WoOSprint514 on September 12 2013 at 08:55:52 PM

He's just afraid to fall flat on his face against the Posse. Haha.



TK isn't afraid to fall on his face anywhere and never backs down to a challenge, however, he can only go where the owner allows and with the lose of a crew chief... Tim also knows how tough it is to make the A in Pa and can admit it. unlike some.





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