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imcahobbystock3
December 16, 2012 at 10:29:10 PM
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......im looking for ideas that you have seen done or would do to get fans in the stands on a weekly basis. im looking for realistic ideas, not wet t-shirt contest, or free beer. let me know what you think, what you have seen done, or what you would do to put fans in the stands. thank you in advance.




David Smith Jr
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December 16, 2012 at 10:37:48 PM
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1) Find a sponsor for one of your race nights and that day have a regular driver at your track show up at that business with his car handing out free tickets to the races. You will make up what you don't make at the gate at the concession stand. Give that driver who sets up his car a free pit pass to that nights racing action.

2) Have $1.00 admission night and make sure there are flyers posted all around town.

Above all, with the above and what others may post, you need to make sure you run a timely and effecient program to where they want to come back. If it drags out past 10:30 pm and they start leaving, that is not good.

J.M.O.


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cheroger
December 18, 2012 at 05:00:45 PM
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Promoters!! Stop charging Adult admisssion for kids. A person 12 years old up to 18 is still a kid. At least let these teens in for a reduced price, say half price or less. A Dad, Mom and two teenagers can not afford to pay $40-$60 + concessions to go to a weekly show. What is really stupid in my opinion is to charge full price to a 13 year old and then have a Senior (like me) discount. How dumb is that? The Senior is already a race fan and should be financially able to pay the price. I went to a track recently in California that had a Senior discount and charged full price for 12 & older. I told the ticket taker to take the $4 discount and apply it to the next kid that came through. If she did or not, I don't know but I think she got my point. Kids are the future, don't price them away!!




mjm sleepy
December 18, 2012 at 11:34:40 PM
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Heat races starting at 8:30 = worst idea ever.

 



Glen Chapa
December 19, 2012 at 04:09:12 PM
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Here are my thoughts. Promote. Promote. Promote. Facebook isn't promoting. The track needs to be involved with the community or town it is located at. What I mean with being involved with the community as work with local bussineses to get them involved. Sponsor the athletic program for the school. You think racers are loyal to supporters of racing. Residents of smaller towns are just as supportive of supporters of thier team or schools. Yes a promotor may need to spend some money that is prolly stretched thin. Have a nice presentable program. It needs to have places in it to showcase drivers so the fan can connect with local drivers. Fan interaction. A program is a perfect spot to offer a free trial add for local businesses to get them involved to hopefully become a supporter of the track and buy adds ect. Start races on time. Shoot to be done around 10:30-11. Try to keep the action rolling. Make intermission about the fans. Jr fan club stuff. Ride alongs. T shirt give aways, driver interviews anything to keep the excitement up and involve the fan. Try to get the local paper involved. Not the daily Oklahoman (it's worth trying but better to focus on the local paper). Many towns have smaller local papers. Great way to spread word and again the track is involved in a positive way with its community. These just a few ideas. We can all come up with a lot of great ideas. There are tracks that do alt of these things. Some don't. I hope we can get crowds up at all tracks tho. I was raised at the race track. I love this sport and my kids love it. I want my kids to be able to enjoy this sport they way I do. Nothing is better than a family night at the races. I love seeing my wife n kids waive when I go around the track and the nights we spend in the shop together.

kmossman
December 19, 2012 at 04:30:31 PM
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This message was edited on December 20, 2012 at 01:21:28 PM by kmossman

Let me qualify this response with the fact that I've never run a track and don't have the first idea of what it takes to make it work financially. So this response is purely from a fan's perspective.

* Clean everything, starting with the restrooms and concessions areas.

* Have the gate-worker act like it's more than an inconvenience to tear my ticket.

* Carry the concessions items that appear on your price boards.

* Start the races on time and get us out the door no more than three hours after the first race starts. In other words, deep-six the intermissions (or reduce them to 10-15 min.).


"I'd pay $15 to watch a sprint car sit still."


brian26
December 19, 2012 at 07:38:27 PM
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EVERY single female I ever took to the races preferred the races to be over by or closing at 10:30 pm!

 

FACT




kmossman
December 20, 2012 at 01:24:40 PM
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Reply to:
Posted By: Glen Chapa on December 19 2012 at 04:09:12 PM
Here are my thoughts. Promote. Promote. Promote. Facebook isn't promoting. The track needs to be involved with the community or town it is located at. What I mean with being involved with the community as work with local bussineses to get them involved. Sponsor the athletic program for the school. You think racers are loyal to supporters of racing. Residents of smaller towns are just as supportive of supporters of thier team or schools. Yes a promotor may need to spend some money that is prolly stretched thin. Have a nice presentable program. It needs to have places in it to showcase drivers so the fan can connect with local drivers. Fan interaction. A program is a perfect spot to offer a free trial add for local businesses to get them involved to hopefully become a supporter of the track and buy adds ect. Start races on time. Shoot to be done around 10:30-11. Try to keep the action rolling. Make intermission about the fans. Jr fan club stuff. Ride alongs. T shirt give aways, driver interviews anything to keep the excitement up and involve the fan. Try to get the local paper involved. Not the daily Oklahoman (it's worth trying but better to focus on the local paper). Many towns have smaller local papers. Great way to spread word and again the track is involved in a positive way with its community. These just a few ideas. We can all come up with a lot of great ideas. There are tracks that do alt of these things. Some don't. I hope we can get crowds up at all tracks tho. I was raised at the race track. I love this sport and my kids love it. I want my kids to be able to enjoy this sport they way I do. Nothing is better than a family night at the races. I love seeing my wife n kids waive when I go around the track and the nights we spend in the shop together.


Glen makes a good point here. It seems the only time you hear about the track is when you're out the track. Few seem to integrate well into their communities.


"I'd pay $15 to watch a sprint car sit still."

Dogwater
December 21, 2012 at 12:27:45 AM
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This message was edited on December 21, 2012 at 12:56:24 AM by Dogwater

I have lived and attended races in the state of Oklahoma almost my entire life. I love and miss dirt track racing in Oklahoma; the tracks, the fans, and drivers. I recently moved to Louisville, KY. If you haven't been to the races in this area (KY, OH, IN)... let me tell you, its a whole different animal. Car counts and fan counts are healthy (although they are down from past years like everywhere else in the country). They run their programs differently over this way, and seem to take Friday and Saturday nights at the dirt tracks a bit more serious.

As others have said promotion is huge! Others have come up with some great suggestions on how to do this and I am sure I could come up with a few myself. However, I think the biggest issues facing tracks, when it comes to fans, is the way the racing programs are run. I've come up with a few suggestions (some others have already touched on) that I have gleaned from observing successful tracks and also a few things I thought I'd share from over this way. It never hurts to learn from others who are having success, right?

1.) The first one, and this is a biggie... START ON TIME. This doesn't mean start packing the track or start the drivers meeting. This means having the first heat lined up and ready to go. Just about every track over this way starts on time, even the smaller productions. Most of them also don't require the racers to pack, they have equipment and do it themselves. The track is packed and ready to go on time. How many other entertainment choices that people go to start 30 minutes to 2 hours later than the posted start time? I sure can't think of any. I have been to a few tracks that have started so late that I have seen people get up and leave before the the first heat race even pulled out on the track. Do you think they will ever return? I highly doubt it.That should NEVER happen.

2.) If you MUST have an intermission make it no longer than 15 minutes. Fans didn't come and pay money to sit around and listen to music over the PA or the announcer ramble on for half an hour to an hour. 15 minutes should be plenty of time to go to the restrooms and the concession stands. If 15 minutes is not enough time then you may need to take a look at your facilities. Are your restrooms adequate? Are your concession stands under staffed? Is your track crew sufficient?

3.) Don't waste time and strive to get the program over by 10pm... 11pm at the latest. You're not stretching our entertainment dollar by piddling around and running 3 car heat races; you're wasting our time and patience. Have no more pace laps than absolutely necessary before starting the race, and do your best to limit them on cautions as well. If you don't have transponders and Raceivers do yourself, your fans, and your racers a favor and invest in them. Also, please keep in mind that dirt track racing is not like going to the movies where you can usually find a movie theater within a 20 min radius of your area. There are fans and racers that drive an hour to two hours to attend your show. The earlier you get them out the more they appreciate it. No one enjoys a show getting over at 1:30am and THEN having to drive two hours to arrive home at 3:30am. The earlier you get done the further people may consider driving to attend your show.

4.) Have reasonable concession prices with a wide variety. Tracks over this way serve pizza, hamburgers, hotdogs, tacos, nachos, Frito chili pie, funnel cakes, fried Twinkies (though I imagine that will no longer be on the menu), fried snickers, sno cones, ice cream. You name it. They also carry ear plugs, dust glasses,Tylenol, Pepto bismol. Its pretty simple, if you have good items at a reasonable price people will buy them. The more variety and the more "useful" items you have the more people it will appeal to.

5.) This next one is a big one for the women. Have clean and respectable restrooms. They don't have to be fancy, just make sure they are clean and stocked with paper towels and toilet paper.

6.) More classes do not necessarily equal more or better entertainment. I rather see three classes of 20 cars than six classes with 10 cars. I think a lot of fans would likely agree.

7.) Maintain and have pride in your track. Make sure the grass and infield are mowed, the place is clean, and the trash cans are empty before the gates open. Again, like the restrooms, your track doesn't have to be fancy but take pride and do the best with what you have. It DOES matter and it does make a difference.

8.) Run classes in reverse order. Start with the headliners and work your way down to the entry level classes. This is something most track over this way do and I LOVE it. It allows for the majority of the fans to see what they have come to see (late models -or- wingless sprints) without having to wait for every other class to run first. They then can make the decision, based upon their personal circumstances, whether they wish to stay and for how long. It also helps with parking congestion because as the features trickle down so does the crowd. An additional bonus is that it allows those who have traveled a bit further to get out of there earlier and get home at a decent hour.

9.) Find and pay for a good announcer! One of the things that has amazed me about racing over this way is the announcing. Its excellent! Even the smaller tracks have great announcers. They are professional, stick to the program (they don't ramble about nonsense unrelated to the program), know whats going on, know the drivers and their histories. The announcing is more akin to what you would experience at other sporting events (think professional and college football/basketball).

10) When weather is threatening, do everything you can to get the show in AND finished. If things don't work out and you have to cancel make sure you offer rain checks. These two things will go a long way with both fans and drivers and they will be more likely to make the trip when the weather is iffy. There is a track around this area (Florence Speedway) that does this and when the weather threatens, their car counts and fan counts don't take near the hit that other tracks do because they have a reputation of doing everything in their power to get the show in.

In closing if you ever get the chance and are over this way, check out a dirt track race. Here are a few tracks I would recommend;

Florence Speedway, Florence, KY - www.florencespeedway.com (My wife and I's personal favorite track. However, all of these are excellent!)

Lawrenceburg Speedway, Lawrenceburg, IN - www.lawrenceburgspeedway.com

Brownstown Speedway, Brownstown, IN - www.brownstownspeedway.com

Tri-State Speedway, Haubstadt, IN - www.tristatespeedway.com

Bloomington Speedway, Bloomington, IN - www.bloomingtonspeedway.com


I like dirt!


SFSfan
December 25, 2012 at 10:42:33 AM
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Amen on these ideas guys. Some people have been promoting so long that they forget the basics of running a successful show. The effort you give will almost always pay off. Quality will ALWAYS prevail. To quote the Beatles......And in the end, the love you take is equal to the love you make. lol


"They're steering them sum bi***es with their right 
foot!"



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