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Dzus Button
January 25, 2024 at 07:01:38 PM
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Noticed one detail when HL released the format that no one seems to be talking about...  When thay have 32+ cars and go to Flight A and Flight B qualifying, did you see how they divide the groups up?  It's not by pill draw anymore.  In order to avoid a stacked flight, the groups will be seeded - so for instance, if you say the top 4 drivers are 1. Sweet, 2. Rico, 3. Sunshine, 4. Marks, etc, etc...Brad Sweet and Sunshine will be in Flight A while Rico and Marks will be in Flight B and so on...  Assuming the seeding is done via the point standings, how do we feel about this?

It obviously is a move to protect the drivers because if the top 8 cars all randomly drew Flight 1, they would have the top 8 cars in points all fighting for 4 dash spots, while seeding them equally between the flights means the top 8 cars would now be fighting for 8 dash spots.

I secretly looked forward to those ocasion heat races for either the WoO or the All-Stars where the draw created heat races that included no series regulars as you knew you would see a non-touring car in the dash and have a chance at a really good night.

If the seeding is done by points, then I guess that would be the fairest way, but I don't see this as a way of preventing a stacked flight or heat race.... I mean you could argue that those 4 drivers are really the top 4 in the series but you still technically could have all 4 of those drivers listed in the same flight and heat.  What I see this doing is it guarantees the 1st and 2nd place drivers in the points chase will never encounter each other until the dash/feature on races that have 32+ entries.  

Thoughts?

 




dsc1600
January 26, 2024 at 10:15:31 AM
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It's a bit too cute for me, but i do agree competitive balance shouldn't be ignored. I think it should be written in the rules that the race director can make slight adjustments to the order to ensure balance, but unfortunately that would lead to questions of fairness as to who gets moved etc...

So this is a way to address that but it might be using a sledgehammer to kill a cockroach. 



larsonfan
January 26, 2024 at 12:59:47 PM
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Don't hate...

Appreciate!




saphead
January 26, 2024 at 03:19:17 PM
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Underrated comment 



armyduke
January 26, 2024 at 03:23:37 PM
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Well comeon, can't have the chance of Sweet, Rico and Larson being in the same heat because then only 2 could make the dash



rpaulson
January 26, 2024 at 03:49:20 PM
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This message was edited on January 26, 2024 at 03:49:45 PM by rpaulson

From the 2023 Rule Book.

"Split field qualifying with 40 or more cars in attendance. The top ten (10) in points will be seeded equally into each A and B group...."




larsonfan
January 26, 2024 at 04:29:44 PM
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This message was edited on January 26, 2024 at 04:32:29 PM by larsonfan
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Cry more. Boo hoo. Don't watch their races then (though I'm sure you will). 

 



3togo
January 26, 2024 at 06:44:05 PM
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Cry more. Boo hoo. Don't watch their races then (though I'm sure you will). 

 



Still completely hilarious the people with a hard on of a series that's going to be dominated by the owners of the series...



larsonfan
January 26, 2024 at 07:36:46 PM
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Still completely hilarious the people with a hard on of a series that's going to be dominated by the owners of the series...



THEN DON'T WATCH! 

Watch your beloved Outlaws ...and watch 3 teams dominate the season. Have a nut my friend!




Parnelli1970
January 26, 2024 at 08:34:32 PM
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THEN DON'T WATCH! 

Watch your beloved Outlaws ...and watch 3 teams dominate the season. Have a nut my friend!



Someone has very tender feelings.



larsonfan
January 26, 2024 at 11:34:05 PM
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Someone has very tender feelings.



Ahh shucks, thanks for caring!



BStrawser26
January 27, 2024 at 05:17:24 AM
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Still completely hilarious the people with a hard on of a series that's going to be dominated by the owners of the series...



A race hasn't even been run yet.  This just in Brad pretty much dominated the outlaws the last 5 years.  5 championships in a row.  


Let's go Sprint Car Racing!

Knoxville - Best Track In the USA!
Eldora - 2nd Best Track in the USA!


NWFAN
January 27, 2024 at 10:07:38 AM
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This message was edited on January 28, 2024 at 11:10:39 AM by NWFAN
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Posted By: larsonfan on January 26 2024 at 12:59:47 PM

Don't hate...

Appreciate!



wont happen till he buys a chevy!  his hate goes back many years here. thats how he reacts to everything and cannot wait to see his reaction to this post!  maybe he needs to get laid!


Ascot was the greatest of all time..

West Capital wasn't half bad either..

Life is good...

3togo
January 27, 2024 at 10:15:15 AM
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THEN DON'T WATCH! 

Watch your beloved Outlaws ...and watch 3 teams dominate the season. Have a nut my friend!



Kind of missing the point$$$





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