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December 25, 2022 at
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Love Knoxville as well, but next year the second week of July will be epic, starting with the Doty at Attica on the 11th, then to the Big E for 4 days, the million and the Royal. Pretty sweet week.
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I wonder how much the tracks get from the streaming companies. I'm sure they know how many are streaming a race, so how much does the track get? I would bet my house it isn't anywhere near what the ticket costs.
Anyone ever heard numbers?
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December 26, 2022 at
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Lernerville Speedway - $15 a week for 410 Sprints, big block Modifieds, Late Models, and Pure Stocks. Usually a great show with a well prepared track. Obviously more for the All Stars, High Limit Sprint Tour, etc. Well worth the cash.
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December 27, 2022 at
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Posted By: StanM on December 20 2022 at 10:06:44 AM
When my bills come due I don't look at the charges and think "this isn't enough, they should be charging me more". The struggle is to continue going to a few races and watching them on streaming through my 70's and hopefully into my 80's. No way in hell I'm taking on a part time job while retired and fighting a health problem. I'm hoping that racing continues to be within the grasp of us common folks and not another playground for the wealthy like concerts and professional sports.
Racing seems to be getting divided more and more into the tale of two sports. The local weekly shows with six-eight classes that have admission under $20 and the big shows that require a small loan to attend. I would remind everyone that the big shows are here today because us old folks soldiered through 23 second laps and jalopies for decades to keep these venues relevant. But I digress, the bottom line for me is the bottom line. I can sleep well at night knowing that I don't advocate pricing other fans out of the sport.
One has to look at the competition for entertainment dollars and try to think of any sport that isn't accessible on TV for a decent price. Years ago when I first got cable the pay per vue model was the standard. $59.95 for a big boxing or wrestling match. That gave way eventually to streaming based on a package deal such as the NFL channels while still broadcasting free games over the air. I think dirt track racing needs to be accessible to thrive. Streaming services, in case nobody has noticed, are running a lot of the same commercials as broadcast TV. What they have to offer doesn't stop with the fans but they're able to cut deals with advertisers and that helps hold the price to a reasonable level. As my wife says "why is your racing channel costing us double what we pay for Netflix?" She is not a racing fan and doesn't see the value of DV but is fine with the annual Floracing bill. On the flip side, there is so much content on YouTube and track websites and free replays of whole races that if the time comes a person could live without streaming and still keep up with the sport. My only agenda is to be able to follow the sport that I have enjoyed since 1960. Nothing more profound than that here.
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Stan, great response, but I would like to take it a step further. This is my first time ever posting here and it is my honor to be able to do this. My response will be based on owning two race tracks, a grassroots sprint car series and a brand the series has spawned. I am also humbled to call many on the business side of the sport my friend.
Like most, if not all here, I am a die hard fan. Unfortunately, we make up the miority of the supporters who sit in the stands at most racing events. Yes, the Nationals, Chili Bowl and many events like it, are made up, to a large degree, of die hards. Those events count on die hards to travel many mile and spend lots of money to keep the event profitable. I understand why many of you are willing to pay more for a ticket at the track because that is what you do. Thank you!
As Stan mentioned, many of us on the business side are concerned that the sport is becoming divided and the "haves" and the "have nots" are growing farther and farther apart. The rich are getting richer (more purse, more point fund money, another series that for sure does nothing but helps the rich and and on and on) and the poor are getting poorer. A familiar situation with society as well. The "haves" have a louder voice and resources while the "have nots" struggle with no voice and little resources.
We are a niche sport. 5% of the population are race fans. We continue to split that into more and more "peices of the pie" as the sport "grows." There is for sure a place for the "high limit" level and events in our sport, but they make up 5% of the sport whereas the grassroots level makes up 95% of the sport. A bit confusing, for me anyway.
Thank you so much for allowing me to post this! Please do not take it personally if I do not respond.
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December 27, 2022 at
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Racing is cheap entertainment, relatively speaking. A major league game (anysport) will cost a family of 4 $1000. I just spent a week near Disney playing golf and missing the blizzard. Depending on your level of extrvagance, I estimate it to be $10,000-$12,000 a week for that same family to be there for a week. I bet that same family could go to any big (multi-day) dirt race for under $1000 pretty easy. While it's easy to complain about it, it really is pretty inexpensive when you think about it.
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December 27, 2022 at
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Posted By: UMSS Guy on December 27 2022 at 10:59:51 AM
Stan, great response, but I would like to take it a step further. This is my first time ever posting here and it is my honor to be able to do this. My response will be based on owning two race tracks, a grassroots sprint car series and a brand the series has spawned. I am also humbled to call many on the business side of the sport my friend.
Like most, if not all here, I am a die hard fan. Unfortunately, we make up the miority of the supporters who sit in the stands at most racing events. Yes, the Nationals, Chili Bowl and many events like it, are made up, to a large degree, of die hards. Those events count on die hards to travel many mile and spend lots of money to keep the event profitable. I understand why many of you are willing to pay more for a ticket at the track because that is what you do. Thank you!
As Stan mentioned, many of us on the business side are concerned that the sport is becoming divided and the "haves" and the "have nots" are growing farther and farther apart. The rich are getting richer (more purse, more point fund money, another series that for sure does nothing but helps the rich and and on and on) and the poor are getting poorer. A familiar situation with society as well. The "haves" have a louder voice and resources while the "have nots" struggle with no voice and little resources.
We are a niche sport. 5% of the population are race fans. We continue to split that into more and more "peices of the pie" as the sport "grows." There is for sure a place for the "high limit" level and events in our sport, but they make up 5% of the sport whereas the grassroots level makes up 95% of the sport. A bit confusing, for me anyway.
Thank you so much for allowing me to post this! Please do not take it personally if I do not respond.
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I have a pretty good idea who you are UMSS guy and I will likely catch a couple nights of this entertaining series again this season. My neighbor came over and parked his new pit cart in my driveway and shot the breeze before the snow flew. I can see his hauler out my kitchen window and the car rattles my windows when he pushes it off on the road. Even gets some Australian guy over to tune on it once in a while and help with setup.
My deal now that I'm retired and the body is breaking down more is simply to try and stay connected with the sport. I'll find out next week if my oncologist is going to take a wait and see approach or do treatments that will suppress my immunity next summer. Can't really plan much but what I'm dealing with is low grade and slow to progress. That and my neck not liking the metal benches has put some of my plans in limbo. Nothing I can't live with into my 90's but definately changes my approach to racing.
Stan Meissner
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