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The biggest and baddest sprint car race on the east coast happens this week at the best facility with the best track and racing anywhere.  Be there or be square!

I will be there all three days.  My favorite race weekend of the year.  Racing, Fair, Food, Friends.  Ferris wheel outside turn 1.  Couting down the minutes

I'll be there for Friday and Saturday.

Does an All-Star get the job done this year? Peck has been running very well and the Lawnmower Man (Courtney) has had some good runs up there. I look forward to seeing some new faces up there from the midwest. It's great that they've towed in. 

Drinks, food, camping, racing, it'll be a fun weekend. My ass will be dragging on Monday, that's for sure.

I will be glued to Flo all weekend between this event & the World 100.

P.S.   Do they call TC the Lawnmower man because he mows other guys lawns? 

100 percent facts right there.  Gonna be a great weekend.  

For sure!

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Bingo, Sap! I wasn't sure if anyone would pick up on the Kingpin reference and did it just to entertain myself.

I laugh out loud everytime ol' Roy Munson knocks the shit out of poor Ish.

You are no more qualified to judge that than I am. You have not been to the Tuscarora Fifty in several years and the last time that I went to to the Williams Grove National Steve Kinser won it. (I also saw Gordon Johncock and a few in between win it) That should be argued by people who attend both. My unqualified opinion is that right now Williams Grove holds a slight advantage which will eventually be reversed.

Promise.

Don't you guys get tired of feeding him ? Your obviously not going to stop his babbling of port royal. I call it bullshit, 15 mins down the road he is probably at the fair getting some of the best food and seeing some of the best racing of the year.  Does anyone know or ever seen him ? So, I say bullshit, enjoy the race and he'll be back babbling about lap times.  

Who you got to take the 50 this year ? Lance comes in as the favorite for sure, but I like this Tyler Courtney, he is always up on the wheel.

Lance is certainly a contender as is Logan Wagner, Danny Dietrich, and Anthony Macri for the Posse.  For the All Stars the contenders are Tyler Courtney and Justin Peck.  However the favorite has to be Brent Marks.  Also - in days past the Grove's National Open was certainly the "bigger" show but Port puts on a much better show these days.  I go to both every year.  The enthusiasm just isn't there at the Grove any more.  So unfortunate.  

i hope marks wins.  he's had plenty of wins and fairly big wins during speedweek.  his biggest were out of the area though so i want to be a witness to this season he's having.

WingedStrawser BS aside, while Port is great and the 50 is a top shelf event, when 6 (7 if you include Larson) of the top 10 sprint car drivers in the world are NOT at your event you can't call it the biggest race in PA. 

This may change over time, but as it is now, National Open pays more and has a better quality field. 

About the ONLY thing I agree with you about!

I'd like to know what the actual gate is at both events ?  2 big tracks with a whole lot of people in the stands and infield.  The infield at port royal is larger due to the grove's front stretch pits. LOL, they both take a sizeable deposit to the bank on Monday. 

it does hurt the tuscarora 50 to not be outlaw sanctioned since they'll always be missing those guys...who are mostly the best.  port is well positioned though if the tide starts to turn away from the outlaws.  they're probably rooting for the high limit series to take off and the outlaws to keep their rules about what races their drivers can run.  

Nobody misses or even thinks about the outlaws at the Tuscarora 50. The field and the racing will be just as good. When will other tracks and fans realize that you don't need the outlaws for a big race? I believe the T-50 has drawn more cars than the Grove Open for a few years now. It's a much better show without the WOO IMO. It would just feel like glorified outlaw show (like the grove open) if they were there. Port has a WOO show next month. 

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The WoO/WRG rules against racers not being able to compete as true outlaws used to do is a terrible rule. Everybody gets why they do it, and in all honesty the guys on the platinum deal are doing ok. I believe the reason it's in place is because of the west coast swing.  The drivers no longer stay with the teams, most fly in for a couple days and show up for race day then jump on a plane and head back home.  So why they couldn't get in somebody else's ride, a team car, or even there own car  baffles me.  Kasey could have had Sweet fly in and run the 9 car for example. 

The other group of teams that I don't believe tow out to Pa is more of the Knoxville/Huset's racers. Brownie does, which I talked to him once about this and he said he doesn't know why because he and his team trully enjoy coming to PA.  It's not that the money isn't there purse wise. Both Tusky and grove payouts are right up there.

Off-topic slightly, but the Gold Cup has really stepped it up in terms of purses. Full regular Outlaw purse both prelim nights, plus $25k to win, $2k to start on Saturday. The total 3 day purse is not far off of the Tusky 3 day purse, just not following the Dolly Parton method that most PA tracks follow.