Forum: HoseHeads Sprint Car General Forum (go)
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With the shusters running all stars there goes 2 sprints they will be lucky to have 12 sprints on a normal night. 

........will be terrible.  

12 cars on a racetrack is still better than a dozen houses in a housing development.

That is a very good point.

Even though I may not know you, I 
care what most of you think!

Good point.  But I think we hurt ourselves in central pa with too many races. Too many 3 race weeks. 

We hurt ourselves with too many divisions.

I'm an outsider, but why has there never been a push to combine 358 and 360's? Is one class more economical than the other? Would one be at a major advantage if they just combined them? I know there are events that have them combined. Educate me.

Supposedly the 358s run longer between refreshes than the 360s do. Less compression in a 358 motors than a 360.  358 heads used to flow way better (albet iron castings) than the older aluminum Brodix spec heads which is why it was always a toss up which would win when they would have the “challenge” races. Now that the 360 rules are a little different I have no idea how close they are now. 

I also believe the 358 sprint motor is very similar bottomend wise to 358 late model and modified engines.

Bingo. To many Winged divisions in Pa.

Bingo. To many Winged divisions in Pa.

358's are allowed to compete against the 360's at Selinsgrove and the URC also. A few do but not many. At least Selinsgrove and URC worked out the feud they had last year so that should help car counts. I still think they need to make the track a little smaller to attract more cars, not to mention closer and better racing. I'm more concerned with late model counts. They've lost all their top cars to Port Royal over the last few years.

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Glory Days - there were 3 tracks running 410's on Saturday night  - with at least enough cars to keep it going, for a while anyway. Two were, what, 30 miles apart.

Why that was unsustainable is rather complicated, I believe. 

There's a whole buch of factors - none-the-least is cost but I think the lack of "car guys" is just as big a factor as costs. How many kids on your block have a hot rod? Used to need two hands to count 'em on some blocks in my little wide spot in the road.

The average age of guys with hot rods is likely only surpassed by the average age of farmers. Both sad statistics.

Sad but true.

Wish I lived on your  "little wide spot in the road" back in the day....

You need to come over to Western Pa. if you want to see too many divisions. RUSH and Fasttrack are killing the sport. We have support divisions that have limited versions of a support division, it makes for long slow drawn out shows with many divisions of half full fields, it sucks.

Yeah when a division starts becoming too expensive, the "cure" seems to always be to start another support division and when that support division gets too expensive well lets start another one......etc, etc, etc......

With all these support divisons, PA still doesn't have a bullring that runs wingless sprints. Now that would be the only new divison that might cut costs and be worthwhile to watch.

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Actually, Path Valley runs wingless Super Sportsman on something like 16 occassions throughout the year. Not wingless 410 sprints but wingless springs nonetheless.