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March 03, 2016 at
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That is funny right there, I don't care who you are.
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March 03, 2016 at
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Posted By: BigRightRear on March 03 2016 at 07:36:05 AM
we sit on the backstretch...let me know when you expect to be in attendance, if we have an open seat we will fit you in.
or if you are more comfortable on Beer Hill - I usually walk up there to watch the consi.
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I'll look you up on beer hill
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March 04, 2016 at
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Dude stop it!..... I couldn't go to sleep last nite thinking & giggling about this stuff!
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March 04, 2016 at
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the right side wing panel appears to be out of compliance on this logo!
Lincoln 1845 ft/.35 mile T1=118MPH
Eldora 2287 ft/.43mile T3=135MPH
Port 2716 ft/.51 mile T3=TBD
Grove 2792 ft/.53 mile T3=135MPH
Selinsgrove 2847 ft/.54 mile T1=136MPH
"I didn't move to PA from El Paso in search of better
weather." Van May
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March 09, 2016 at
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Posted By: henry chinaski on March 02 2016 at 09:45:36 AM
What I believe is happening is that the rule changes have taken away the advantage of sand bagging time trials. With the format currently in place you have to qualify well and run well each and ever time you hit the track. I wasn't a fan at first when I heard the changes but it's proving to be a good thing so far. Also sticky tracks dont need traction assistance either so that could be having an effect on a certain teams performance as well. When the tracks go dry slick you can rest assured there will be one car and one car only that can miraculously improve lap times by racing in the middle groove where nobody else can. Some call that pure driver talent, great crew chief, etc... I'm inclined to believe its more complicated than that.
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couldn't agree with you more on that!
also Shady stauffer has been none to have several tricks as does Schatz does... Go pros are great places for those traction assistance units. Ever notice those tire dipping teams never give away their tires at the end night or never leave them by their trailers at the end of the night. How could a driver not have any dnfs when everyone else gets flats and blow outs.
Just wish the outlaws would tech more. But when you have Kasey and Tony's guys driving these cars are they really going to check to see why they are up front every night !
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March 09, 2016 at
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Posted By: J&J on March 09 2016 at 08:31:26 PM
couldn't agree with you more on that!
also Shady stauffer has been none to have several tricks as does Schatz does... Go pros are great places for those traction assistance units. Ever notice those tire dipping teams never give away their tires at the end night or never leave them by their trailers at the end of the night. How could a driver not have any dnfs when everyone else gets flats and blow outs.
Just wish the outlaws would tech more. But when you have Kasey and Tony's guys driving these cars are they really going to check to see why they are up front every night !
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I thought the X-Files ended about a week ago!! 
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March 10, 2016 at
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Not much doubt that the #49, #9 and #15 are three of the four highest budgeted teams in the nation....and the #83 ranks right up there. The #2 car is probably in that top four of budgets and will be right up there when the season shakes out. Oh how racing with money makes all the difference in the world!
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March 10, 2016 at
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Posted By: blazer00 on March 10 2016 at 01:21:29 AM
Not much doubt that the #49, #9 and #15 are three of the four highest budgeted teams in the nation....and the #83 ranks right up there. The #2 car is probably in that top four of budgets and will be right up there when the season shakes out. Oh how racing with money makes all the difference in the world!
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Yup, it has more to do with money than where the crew chief is from. Don't see any of those great posse crew chiefs winning with an underfunded team. I noticed the posse trained crew chief and drivers do not have the 1a or 1s running up front much!
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March 11, 2016 at
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It takes big money and a good driver to make a posse crew chief look good. The BDS team does not have anywhere close to the money Donny's team does and he still darn near beat him last year at Knoxville. I've seen them start the night with a used tire that has already been grooved, siped and ground and still TT good and run top 3 in the A main.
The 1a & 1s have posse bred crew chief and drivers and still are most often back markers.
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March 11, 2016 at
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Why didn't those top "Posse" crew chiefs just bring a Posse driver out on the road and get it done? Sounds like what your saying is that PA breeds better crew chiefs than drivers, huh?
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March 12, 2016 at
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You guys comparing logistics of where you were born & raised in order to pound your chest for top recognition in crew chief competition are simply over the top.
Then someone says it takes a bunch of $$ to make a posse crew chief look great. Clueless.
Takes alot of $$$ to make anyone look great, regardless of driver, crew chief & equipment.
Can't buy common sense & experiance & the last I checked that can be born & bred into anyone in any part of the world.
Who ever understands the shock technology is the better man right now, but you still must have a driver that can race smart & compensate for the last 25% of the race set up. 75% is the car nowadays unlike years ago.
When instructions come with the cars it tends to show you how much times have changed & have made an average person a state of the art set up man!!!
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March 12, 2016 at
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Posted By: straight shooter on March 12 2016 at 10:01:52 AM
You guys comparing logistics of where you were born & raised in order to pound your chest for top recognition in crew chief competition are simply over the top.
Then someone says it takes a bunch of $$ to make a posse crew chief look great. Clueless.
Takes alot of $$$ to make anyone look great, regardless of driver, crew chief & equipment.
Can't buy common sense & experiance & the last I checked that can be born & bred into anyone in any part of the world.
Who ever understands the shock technology is the better man right now, but you still must have a driver that can race smart & compensate for the last 25% of the race set up. 75% is the car nowadays unlike years ago.
When instructions come with the cars it tends to show you how much times have changed & have made an average person a state of the art set up man!!!
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I brought up the money aspect! And I did not state that it took a lot of money to make a Posse crew chief look great! What I did say was that those crew chiefs mentioned ARE on the top funded teams in the nation! I'm sure they are there for a reason, that being they know what they are doing, BUT....like the drivers that are in those particular cars, would either the drivers or crew chiefs be accomplishing what they are without the big budgets thay have? Maybe. But it's a fact that without the huge budgets other teams can't compete regularly. I'm not so sure that the car doesn't count for more than 75% of the equation today considering the rules packages. I believe the rules package today benefits the high dollar teams simply because they can continue to spend more on the powerplants and new componants than anybody else. With the power generated today the number of set up combinations doesn't need to be as great. Money rules in racing more today then ever before. And money can't be out smarted!
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March 12, 2016 at
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Donny Schatz would have won just as many races without Tricky. Donny is the best crewchief on the Outlaw tour. Anybody who is close to the Outlaws tour knows this, but you guys keep up your debate. Tricky was not the crewchief in 2007 and that was one of the most sucsesful years the 15 ever had. I think you may find Kenny Woodruff had more to do with making Donny fast. Just my opinion.
Losing is natures way of saying you suck.
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March 12, 2016 at
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Blazer, Oswald said it takes alot of money to make a posse crew chief look good. That is who I was referring too.
Years of hard work & knowledge of the older era of innovation is what seperates the good from the great crew chiefs nowadays. The guys who actually had to make things from race to race to keep the car on the track. Along with shock dyno knowledge which is the fine tune of this era.
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Posted By: straight shooter on March 12 2016 at 08:33:38 PM
Blazer, Oswald said it takes alot of money to make a posse crew chief look good. That is who I was referring too.
Years of hard work & knowledge of the older era of innovation is what seperates the good from the great crew chiefs nowadays. The guys who actually had to make things from race to race to keep the car on the track. Along with shock dyno knowledge which is the fine tune of this era.
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I meant cubic never brags about a low dollar team winning because of a great posse crew chief. Just the 2 working for the best funded teams on earth.
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March 12, 2016 at
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So you mean Scruffy and the boys are stupid to run with the WoO cause they get to run fewer races and make less money than if they stayed home?
I have tremendous respect for Scruffy and he must figure those boys can learn a lot more racing with the Outlaws than they ever could racing at home!
So much for the University of Central Pa.
Or are you going to call Bobby Allen a fool?
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March 13, 2016 at
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That's my point, stupid. You say Pa racers can make more money racing at home. Scruffy finances his own teams out of his pocket. So why not race where you claim he can make more money and have less expense? Because, they will become better racers and learn a lot more racing with the outlaws. As usual, you are full of crap.
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March 14, 2016 at
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I would have to agree with Cubic on this one! The money spent just on the mechanics and the motor deals the big teams have don't make sense. And what Bob is doing with these kids is a Gypsy life not in my mind making them any better for life
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