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Pittmans posse command connection is replacing catch fence at  Susky...perhaps he left his set up notes behind...

Lincoln 1845 ft/.35 mile T1=118MPH 
Eldora 2287 ft/.43mile T3=135MPH
Port 2716 ft/.51 mile T3=TBD
Grove 2792 ft/.53 mile T3=135MPH
Selinsgrove 2847 ft/.54 mile T1=136MPH
"I didn't move to PA from El Paso in search of better 
weather." Van May

You up early talking to yourself again cubes?

Nobody gives a damn about these modern day parts changers whose biggest challenge out on the road is finding a car wash/laundromat combo and a clean offset logo flex-fit hat to wear around the pit area. 

In other words this isn't exactly Bob Trostle vs. Karl Kinser. 

given the amout of rules that govern sprint car racing these days, and the lack of said rules back when karl kinsers stuff was dominating, says so much about ricky's abilities. and karl kinser as a teacher. same can be said about lee. his dad was also one of the best and taught lee a lot. as far as ricky and donny, its a pretty good example of how not everyone has the same stuff but more about how to fine tune your stuff till everything works together and your shit is wicked fast night after night and VERY rarely breaks.

You must be smoking something fool.. Over 200 races without a DNF on the 15 would say something different. In a modern age with a fair amount of parity it's the best crew cheif / team that wins. The best crew chiefs on the outlaws have a fair amount of say in the developement of the sport in this day and age. 

200 races without a DNF sounds like things aren't nearly as, tough, exciting, difficult, in need of true bravery, unrestricted, tricky and just plain cool as they once were.   Maybe Donny and Ricky are just that much better than Karl and Steve and KW and Dave...................

Luna's Ford engine style that won 2 WoO titles and 3 
Kings Royals before a weight rule against the best EVER
in their prime and now DOMINATES super dirt late model
racing is no longer allowed/wanted in a WoO sprint
car.... Was Luna a miracle worker?

Calm down there boys, the year is still early and the tracks are still damp and tacky, in a few months it will get a little more interesting. Just hang on and don't make too many perdictions that end up making you look like a fool that really doesn't understand the changes that take place in a year. But with that said it will be an exciting and interesting year. And the harder you press on that 15 team the better they seem to get. In the past they have responded well. Can't wait to see how Ricky and Donny handle the new pressure. I really think the pressure is greater on the 9 and 49 and it will get worse as the heat turns up. Poor Pitman looks defeated in some of those post race interviwes after getting passed on the last lap. I think the new quilifying rules seem to favor everyone but the 15. which may have been the reason for the change. They may be forced to make some adjustments, which may end up making them better, just have to wait and see.

Amazing this great posse crew chief needs a driver from the Midwest to win! Or are you claiming Donny as posse now too?

And what about yours & BRR's posts on how the WoO don't win in posseland? Can't the great posse crew chief win on his own soil? Or will you blame that on the driver?

15 car wins it's because of the posse crew chief, it loses its because of the non posse driver, right?

I think Donny is the best driver in the business and Ricky Warner is a great help to him, It's team work. Don't forget that Donny didn't have a WOO championship or a Knoxville Nationals win until he and  Ricky Warner got together. Don't forget the other guys on that team. They as a TEAM are the best right now. There is no I in TEAM, it's a team effort. They all would be the first to say that.

That's about right. Sometimes I'm ashamed to be a Posse fan but thankfully, it's only a very small, very loud and extremely stupid minority of Posse fans who think with the idiotic rationale that you just eluded to. 

Thanks. Now I get it. Warner taught Donny how to drive! 

Love your pic in your post that started this thread too. If you remember the spy vs spy cartoons you know they were both portrayed as dumb ass'. 

What I believe is happening is that the rule changes have taken away the advantage of sand bagging time trials. With the format currently in place you have to qualify well and run well each and ever time you hit the track. I wasn't a fan at first when I heard the changes but it's proving to be a good thing so far. Also sticky tracks dont need traction assistance either so that could be having an effect on a certain teams performance as well. When the tracks go dry slick you can rest assured there will be one car and one car only that can miraculously improve lap times by racing in the middle groove where nobody else can. Some call that pure driver talent, great crew chief, etc... I'm inclined to believe its more complicated than that. 

Cheers!

It isn't hard to tell by your post that you aren't a Schatz fan, but to imply that he uses traction control in these days is amazing. The only traction control on that 15 car is on the end of Schatz's fight foot. It's really great to hear all you unbelievers accuse him of cheating, all that really does is tell everyone else that you think he is so good that he has to be cheating. That boy can drive. Oh ya and if you really think someone can sandbag, you make me laugh. When the track gets slick the 15 starts going forward, anyone can hold it wide open and drive like a cowboy when it's wet and heavy, but the real drivers show up when it slicks off at the end of the race. Donny really knows how to keep the car under him and save his tires when the gassers are hammer down spinning theirs. watch and learn.

(ps you are right about the new qualifying rules, they do benifit other drivers, but the 15 team will rise to the occasion just give them a little time. It's nice to have rules changes that help everyone else catch up.)

Na I'm good. In fact, despite some of the childish behavior by a bunch of dumb fucks who can't handle their booze and get their tits out of joint when one of the best in the business beats their local boys, I love Central Pa. We have a huge amount of talent here and for a sprint car fan, it doesn't get much better than having as many races as we do from February through November at so many different top notch tracks. For the most part, the fans around here are really good people who are very knowledgeable about sprint car racing and are actually capable of appreciating the talents of those who don't have a PA mailing address. Sometimes the actions of a few who get entirely too much attention bring shame to us but I think when most people come here, they'd really enjoy it and see that just like everywhere else, we just have a few stupid assholes who unfortunately have internet access and get piss drunk and make fools of themselves when an outlaw guy wins on Posse turf.

Dead on the money. I still maintain that if the 15 was cheating, the other teams who he has kicked the shit out of over the last decade would be on to him long before all of us keyboard commandos and they'd sure as hell not sit back and keep their mouths shut while the 15 breaks the rules and wins all the money. Guaranteed they'd be raising all kinds of hell and they'd be having him torn down. That mass uprising has yet to happen which tells me 1 of 2 things. Either A) he's not cheating or B) he is cheating but everyone else is doing the same shit and he's still that much better than they are.

RW - you and the fellas do a great job preparing the 15 car...I agree and do not think the team is doing anything different (legal / illegal / grey area etc.) than any other team on the tour - outside of embarrassing the rest of the travllers each time you tow to Central PA.

Look back over the points for the last 10 years...Donnie puts distance between himself and the rest of the points racers as they stuggle to make the field of 28 cars...and chalk up also ran finishes outside the top 5.

Nobody really knows why the TC company is still in business selling illegal devices anymore than they know what brand of skunk piss the Lasoski team used to mask the suspected tire softening chemicals that drew attention the attention of Kville's inspection team.

Lincoln 1845 ft/.35 mile T1=118MPH 
Eldora 2287 ft/.43mile T3=135MPH
Port 2716 ft/.51 mile T3=TBD
Grove 2792 ft/.53 mile T3=135MPH
Selinsgrove 2847 ft/.54 mile T1=136MPH
"I didn't move to PA from El Paso in search of better 
weather." Van May

Did you know cubic that the 83 car and the 17W car both have posse crew chiefs that used to work on the 15 team with Donny and Ricky. They know how to train them.

You must have me confused with someone on the team, i'm not on the team, i just know all the guys that are. But I really like your post, I would really like to meet you at the grove some night, I think we would have a lot to talk about.

we sit on the backstretch...let me know when you expect to be in attendance, if we have an open seat we will fit you in.

or if you are more comfortable on Beer Hill - I usually walk up there to watch the consi.

Lincoln 1845 ft/.35 mile T1=118MPH 
Eldora 2287 ft/.43mile T3=135MPH
Port 2716 ft/.51 mile T3=TBD
Grove 2792 ft/.53 mile T3=135MPH
Selinsgrove 2847 ft/.54 mile T1=136MPH
"I didn't move to PA from El Paso in search of better 
weather." Van May