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cubicdollars
February 27, 2016 at 07:50:05 AM
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WoO season is shaping up better than expected...

 photo Tricky Ricky Lethal Lee.jpg


 

 

 

They don't even know how to spell sprint car much less chromoly...http://www.ycmco.com



cubicdollars
February 27, 2016 at 07:53:13 AM
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Unless you're Daryn Pittman I suppose. But even he is in front of Schatz in points even if he can't stay in front of his teammate and Lethal Lee.


 

 

 

They don't even know how to spell sprint car much less chromoly...http://www.ycmco.com


BigRightRear
February 27, 2016 at 09:08:25 AM
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Posted By: cubicdollars on February 27 2016 at 07:53:13 AM

Unless you're Daryn Pittman I suppose. But even he is in front of Schatz in points even if he can't stay in front of his teammate and Lethal Lee.



Pittmans posse command connection is replacing catch fence at  Susky...perhaps he left his set up notes behind...


Lincoln 1845 ft/.35 mile T1=118MPH 
Eldora 2287 ft/.43mile T3=135MPH
Port 2716 ft/.51 mile T3=TBD
Grove 2792 ft/.53 mile T3=135MPH
Selinsgrove 2847 ft/.54 mile T1=136MPH
"I didn't move to PA from El Paso in search of better 
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cubicdollars
February 27, 2016 at 09:44:16 AM
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Posted By: BigRightRear on February 27 2016 at 09:08:25 AM

Pittmans posse command connection is replacing catch fence at  Susky...perhaps he left his set up notes behind...



Maybe it is time to throw six figures at Suchy and bring him off the bench.

Barry Jackson and Bobby Allen figure their deals out could be a 7 way Posse race for points.

PT Barnum and Posse Circus coming to a town near you.


 

 

 

They don't even know how to spell sprint car much less chromoly...http://www.ycmco.com


ricci49
February 27, 2016 at 10:11:42 AM
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Posted By: cubicdollars on February 27 2016 at 09:44:16 AM

Maybe it is time to throw six figures at Suchy and bring him off the bench.

Barry Jackson and Bobby Allen figure their deals out could be a 7 way Posse race for points.

PT Barnum and Posse Circus coming to a town near you.



You up early talking to yourself again cubes?



cubicdollars
February 27, 2016 at 11:51:56 AM
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This message was edited on March 05, 2016 at 05:43:46 AM by cubicdollars
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Posted By: ricci49 on February 27 2016 at 10:11:42 AM

You up early talking to yourself again cubes?



Schatz's gypsy circus motor coach...

 photo shatz gypsy hauler.jpg

http://s3.evcdn.com/images/block250/I0-001/025/934/454-3.jpeg_/gypsy-circus-cider-caravan-tour-johnson-city-54.jpeg


 

 

 

They don't even know how to spell sprint car much less chromoly...http://www.ycmco.com



saphead
February 28, 2016 at 12:06:14 PM
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Nobody gives a damn about these modern day parts changers whose biggest challenge out on the road is finding a car wash/laundromat combo and a clean offset logo flex-fit hat to wear around the pit area. 

In other words this isn't exactly Bob Trostle vs. Karl Kinser. 



cubicdollars
February 28, 2016 at 07:20:43 PM
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Posted By: saphead on February 28 2016 at 12:06:14 PM

Nobody gives a damn about these modern day parts changers whose biggest challenge out on the road is finding a car wash/laundromat combo and a clean offset logo flex-fit hat to wear around the pit area. 

In other words this isn't exactly Bob Trostle vs. Karl Kinser. 



I hear you brother. But Ricky is starting to make a name for himself in the same league as Karl, just as Schatz is starting to be talked about in the same league as Kinser. Karl had to pay his own bills and he owned his own team. That is one of the main differences. Warner is ingenious with the setups and engines like Karl was though. It is hard to get a huge advantage nowadays and yet he still has done it.


 

 

 

They don't even know how to spell sprint car much less chromoly...http://www.ycmco.com


c4
February 28, 2016 at 09:25:36 PM
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given the amout of rules that govern sprint car racing these days, and the lack of said rules back when karl kinsers stuff was dominating, says so much about ricky's abilities. and karl kinser as a teacher. same can be said about lee. his dad was also one of the best and taught lee a lot. as far as ricky and donny, its a pretty good example of how not everyone has the same stuff but more about how to fine tune your stuff till everything works together and your shit is wicked fast night after night and VERY rarely breaks.




raeccrash778
February 28, 2016 at 09:44:45 PM
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Posted By: saphead on February 28 2016 at 12:06:14 PM

Nobody gives a damn about these modern day parts changers whose biggest challenge out on the road is finding a car wash/laundromat combo and a clean offset logo flex-fit hat to wear around the pit area. 

In other words this isn't exactly Bob Trostle vs. Karl Kinser. 



You must be smoking something fool.. Over 200 races without a DNF on the 15 would say something different. In a modern age with a fair amount of parity it's the best crew cheif / team that wins. The best crew chiefs on the outlaws have a fair amount of say in the developement of the sport in this day and age. 



minthess
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February 29, 2016 at 07:47:08 AM
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Posted By: raeccrash778 on February 28 2016 at 09:44:45 PM

You must be smoking something fool.. Over 200 races without a DNF on the 15 would say something different. In a modern age with a fair amount of parity it's the best crew cheif / team that wins. The best crew chiefs on the outlaws have a fair amount of say in the developement of the sport in this day and age. 



200 races without a DNF sounds like things aren't nearly as, tough, exciting, difficult, in need of true bravery, unrestricted, tricky and just plain cool as they once were.   Maybe Donny and Ricky are just that much better than Karl and Steve and KW and Dave...................


Luna's Ford engine style that won 2 WoO titles and 3 
Kings Royals before a weight rule against the best EVER
in their prime and now DOMINATES super dirt late model
racing is no longer allowed/wanted in a WoO sprint
car.... Was Luna a miracle worker?

RW
March 01, 2016 at 12:15:21 PM
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Calm down there boys, the year is still early and the tracks are still damp and tacky, in a few months it will get a little more interesting. Just hang on and don't make too many perdictions that end up making you look like a fool that really doesn't understand the changes that take place in a year. But with that said it will be an exciting and interesting year. And the harder you press on that 15 team the better they seem to get. In the past they have responded well. Can't wait to see how Ricky and Donny handle the new pressure. I really think the pressure is greater on the 9 and 49 and it will get worse as the heat turns up. Poor Pitman looks defeated in some of those post race interviwes after getting passed on the last lap. I think the new quilifying rules seem to favor everyone but the 15. which may have been the reason for the change. They may be forced to make some adjustments, which may end up making them better, just have to wait and see.




oswald
March 01, 2016 at 07:07:12 PM
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Posted By: cubicdollars on February 28 2016 at 07:20:43 PM

I hear you brother. But Ricky is starting to make a name for himself in the same league as Karl, just as Schatz is starting to be talked about in the same league as Kinser. Karl had to pay his own bills and he owned his own team. That is one of the main differences. Warner is ingenious with the setups and engines like Karl was though. It is hard to get a huge advantage nowadays and yet he still has done it.



Amazing this great posse crew chief needs a driver from the Midwest to win! Or are you claiming Donny as posse now too?

 

And what about yours & BRR's posts on how the WoO don't win in posseland? Can't the great posse crew chief win on his own soil? Or will you blame that on the driver?

15 car wins it's because of the posse crew chief, it loses its because of the non posse driver, right?



RW
March 01, 2016 at 07:32:52 PM
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I think Donny is the best driver in the business and Ricky Warner is a great help to him, It's team work. Don't forget that Donny didn't have a WOO championship or a Knoxville Nationals win until he and  Ricky Warner got together. Don't forget the other guys on that team. They as a TEAM are the best right now. There is no I in TEAM, it's a team effort. They all would be the first to say that.



fiXXXer
March 01, 2016 at 08:24:25 PM
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Posted By: oswald on March 01 2016 at 07:07:12 PM

Amazing this great posse crew chief needs a driver from the Midwest to win! Or are you claiming Donny as posse now too?

 

And what about yours & BRR's posts on how the WoO don't win in posseland? Can't the great posse crew chief win on his own soil? Or will you blame that on the driver?

15 car wins it's because of the posse crew chief, it loses its because of the non posse driver, right?



That's about right. Sometimes I'm ashamed to be a Posse fan but thankfully, it's only a very small, very loud and extremely stupid minority of Posse fans who think with the idiotic rationale that you just eluded to. 




cubicdollars
March 01, 2016 at 11:37:32 PM
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Posted By: oswald on March 01 2016 at 07:07:12 PM

Amazing this great posse crew chief needs a driver from the Midwest to win! Or are you claiming Donny as posse now too?

 

And what about yours & BRR's posts on how the WoO don't win in posseland? Can't the great posse crew chief win on his own soil? Or will you blame that on the driver?

15 car wins it's because of the posse crew chief, it loses its because of the non posse driver, right?



No, just Posse trained by Warner. Pittman also went to the University of Central PA. And Sweet is being Posse trained by Stauffer as we speak. Takes 6 degrees to connect to Kevin Bacon. Most Outlaws are only separated by 1 or 2 degrees from the Posse promised land.


 

 

 

They don't even know how to spell sprint car much less chromoly...http://www.ycmco.com


oswald
March 02, 2016 at 12:47:50 AM
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Thanks. Now I get it. Warner taught Donny how to drive! 



oswald
March 02, 2016 at 12:50:56 AM
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Love your pic in your post that started this thread too. If you remember the spy vs spy cartoons you know they were both portrayed as dumb ass'. 




henry chinaski
March 02, 2016 at 09:45:36 AM
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What I believe is happening is that the rule changes have taken away the advantage of sand bagging time trials. With the format currently in place you have to qualify well and run well each and ever time you hit the track. I wasn't a fan at first when I heard the changes but it's proving to be a good thing so far. Also sticky tracks dont need traction assistance either so that could be having an effect on a certain teams performance as well. When the tracks go dry slick you can rest assured there will be one car and one car only that can miraculously improve lap times by racing in the middle groove where nobody else can. Some call that pure driver talent, great crew chief, etc... I'm inclined to believe its more complicated than that. 


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RW
March 02, 2016 at 12:49:09 PM
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Posted By: henry chinaski on March 02 2016 at 09:45:36 AM

What I believe is happening is that the rule changes have taken away the advantage of sand bagging time trials. With the format currently in place you have to qualify well and run well each and ever time you hit the track. I wasn't a fan at first when I heard the changes but it's proving to be a good thing so far. Also sticky tracks dont need traction assistance either so that could be having an effect on a certain teams performance as well. When the tracks go dry slick you can rest assured there will be one car and one car only that can miraculously improve lap times by racing in the middle groove where nobody else can. Some call that pure driver talent, great crew chief, etc... I'm inclined to believe its more complicated than that. 



It isn't hard to tell by your post that you aren't a Schatz fan, but to imply that he uses traction control in these days is amazing. The only traction control on that 15 car is on the end of Schatz's fight foot. It's really great to hear all you unbelievers accuse him of cheating, all that really does is tell everyone else that you think he is so good that he has to be cheating. That boy can drive. Oh ya and if you really think someone can sandbag, you make me laugh. When the track gets slick the 15 starts going forward, anyone can hold it wide open and drive like a cowboy when it's wet and heavy, but the real drivers show up when it slicks off at the end of the race. Donny really knows how to keep the car under him and save his tires when the gassers are hammer down spinning theirs. watch and learn.

(ps you are right about the new qualifying rules, they do benifit other drivers, but the 15 team will rise to the occasion just give them a little time. It's nice to have rules changes that help everyone else catch up.)

 





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