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meatbag
February 10, 2016 at 11:44:41 PM
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Am I the only one that thinks the NO points deal in Florida for ASCoC is stupid?  I don't understand scheduling races that doesn't offer anything to the teams for the rest of the season?  I understand doing it last year because the purchase of the series came during an awkward time right before the races were set to kick off in Florida, but not anymore!  Why travel to Florida to schedule 4 shows over two weeks, award no points, then take a hiatus in the schedule until April up in Ohio?  I understand some people just want to race but if that's the case, make them point races and schedule a couple weekends in March somewhere in the South as well....that's my $.02 for the day 


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cjalger
February 11, 2016 at 12:09:53 AM
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Non-points races means you won't lose the ohio guys who can't go to florida for the other 50 races, in Ohio.  If they are out of the points race before the tour even starts in Ohio, why committ to the series at all?  



meatbag
February 11, 2016 at 02:58:32 AM
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If they want the points, they should go run the 4 shows in February!  Why cater to them?  Why schedule the shows for no points without them?  The field is filled in Florida, why do the All Stars need them guys?  They'll run the shows in Ohio regardless!  


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j20s
February 11, 2016 at 03:04:39 AM
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Posted By: meatbag on February 11 2016 at 02:58:32 AM

If they want the points, they should go run the 4 shows in February!  Why cater to them?  Why schedule the shows for no points without them?  The field is filled in Florida, why do the All Stars need them guys?  They'll run the shows in Ohio regardless!  



Yea, why have a series with 98% of races in one region, and not penalize them for not driving 20+ hours for a few irrelavant races way before the remainder of the schedule? Your intelligence is illustrated by your use of the confederate flag. 



kvaughn48
February 11, 2016 at 08:55:06 AM
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Posted By: j20s on February 11 2016 at 03:04:39 AM

Yea, why have a series with 98% of races in one region, and not penalize them for not driving 20+ hours for a few irrelavant races way before the remainder of the schedule? Your intelligence is illustrated by your use of the confederate flag. 



Thats his opinion and hes entitled to it, how about not being a prick and starting a flame war? Because thats what this forum needs.



blazer00
February 11, 2016 at 10:24:28 AM
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Another point....why award points to the WoO guys and other non All Star participants who are there when those are simply wasted points? Especially knowing that some of the "others" will finish in key positions towards the top. The All Star guys know going in that there are no points awarded so those that do show up do so for the opportunity to race and check equipment performance. I also think Tony is doing right by those drivers and teams that  can't make it. Really a no-brainer all the way around!




csracing72c
February 11, 2016 at 01:04:09 PM
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Volusia is too hard on engines as well. They need to make it smaller. I bet they would get 50 cars if it was a 3/8 mile



vande77
February 11, 2016 at 02:10:04 PM
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who cares?  Last I checked the Outlaws only give "show up points" for certain events on their schedule,, no one comlains about that.

If teh All Stars were a NATIONALLY Touring Series, I could see the point the original poster has.  Since they are a REGIONAL Series, it makes sense to make these a non-point event (just like the NSL has done with the races they hope to support with some cars in PA).



StaggerLee
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February 11, 2016 at 02:47:29 PM
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Posted By: meatbag on February 10 2016 at 11:44:41 PM

Am I the only one that thinks the NO points deal in Florida for ASCoC is stupid?  I don't understand scheduling races that doesn't offer anything to the teams for the rest of the season?  I understand doing it last year because the purchase of the series came during an awkward time right before the races were set to kick off in Florida, but not anymore!  Why travel to Florida to schedule 4 shows over two weeks, award no points, then take a hiatus in the schedule until April up in Ohio?  I understand some people just want to race but if that's the case, make them point races and schedule a couple weekends in March somewhere in the South as well....that's my $.02 for the day 



To answer your first question, yes you are the only one who thinks non points for the first races in Fla. Is  stupid. As far as why the Allstars cater to the guys who can't make it to Fla. In February, we just got rid of a guy who wouldn't cater to his customers and now Tony Stewart stepped up and he is taking care of his drivers. Can you imagine the backlash from the rest of the Allstars if Tony said, "I don't care if you like it or not, points start in Feb in Fla., if you can't make it screw you" and then, Mr. Meatbag, God forbid if it effected your favorite driver or you would be calling for Tony Stewart's head, I can almost read your post in my head, it would be like " Who else thinks Tony Stewart is a d bag for forcing guys that run a regional series mainly in Ohio, to pack their haulers in the middle of the winter to drive 20 hours to Fla for a couple races that don't mean shit, why wouldn't he make these non points races so these drivers don't get penalized for running a couple of races that kill more motors then the whole rest of the season".  I think Tony and the Allstars made the right decision, then again Hoseheads is the brain trust of Sprintcar racing so Tony should have consulted with the Hosehead elite posters before making that decision.




zach51
February 11, 2016 at 03:48:37 PM
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If they run a feature and the sanctioning body is on the banner, it should be for points. If you want to tell me that you have a hand full of teams that will run 50 races but just dont have the funds or time off to go to florida.......give me a break.



zach51
February 11, 2016 at 03:50:32 PM
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Posted By: StaggerLee on February 11 2016 at 02:47:29 PM

To answer your first question, yes you are the only one who thinks non points for the first races in Fla. Is  stupid. As far as why the Allstars cater to the guys who can't make it to Fla. In February, we just got rid of a guy who wouldn't cater to his customers and now Tony Stewart stepped up and he is taking care of his drivers. Can you imagine the backlash from the rest of the Allstars if Tony said, "I don't care if you like it or not, points start in Feb in Fla., if you can't make it screw you" and then, Mr. Meatbag, God forbid if it effected your favorite driver or you would be calling for Tony Stewart's head, I can almost read your post in my head, it would be like " Who else thinks Tony Stewart is a d bag for forcing guys that run a regional series mainly in Ohio, to pack their haulers in the middle of the winter to drive 20 hours to Fla for a couple races that don't mean shit, why wouldn't he make these non points races so these drivers don't get penalized for running a couple of races that kill more motors then the whole rest of the season".  I think Tony and the Allstars made the right decision, then again Hoseheads is the brain trust of Sprintcar racing so Tony should have consulted with the Hosehead elite posters before making that decision.



Tony can't even cater to his own race team for contanstly getting hurt and in bad situations. Like he really has anything to do with the series other than his secretary have a checkbook than stamps his name on the bills.  You are in denile.



BubbyJones1
February 11, 2016 at 05:01:27 PM
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FYI ZACH I have seen Tony at more than ten allstar shows last season ! Hell I seen him on a ladder 20 feet in the air trying to fix a fence at Wayne County ! It doesn't matter how you feel about him personally that man does more for sprint car racing than anyone else I can think of !




linbob
February 11, 2016 at 06:13:20 PM
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Posted By: BubbyJones1 on February 11 2016 at 05:01:27 PM

FYI ZACH I have seen Tony at more than ten allstar shows last season ! Hell I seen him on a ladder 20 feet in the air trying to fix a fence at Wayne County ! It doesn't matter how you feel about him personally that man does more for sprint car racing than anyone else I can think of !



You are correct and ZACH51 does not know enough to pour water out of a boot.



zach51
February 11, 2016 at 07:13:39 PM
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Maybe not, but I can log in and give my opinion. You know what they say about opinions.



shernernum
February 11, 2016 at 08:23:16 PM
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Posted By: zach51 on February 11 2016 at 07:13:39 PM

Maybe not, but I can log in and give my opinion. You know what they say about opinions.



Opinions are subjective.....facts are objective.   Either a team has the budget to go to Florida or it doesn't.

either Tony is directly involved in the ASCOC or he isn't, and since many can testify to witnessing his direct involvement it is also not a matter of opinion.  

Something that is objectively bs is not an opinion it is just bs.




fiXXXer
February 11, 2016 at 09:26:16 PM
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Posted By: zach51 on February 11 2016 at 03:50:32 PM

Tony can't even cater to his own race team for contanstly getting hurt and in bad situations. Like he really has anything to do with the series other than his secretary have a checkbook than stamps his name on the bills.  You are in denile.



Forgive me for being harsh but if you don't know that Tony Stewart is VERY hands on as the owner of the ASCoC, you're either A) very new to the sport, B) a complete and total idiot or C) in denial because you hate Tony Stewart. 



meatbag
February 11, 2016 at 10:02:48 PM
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Posted By: StaggerLee on February 11 2016 at 02:47:29 PM

To answer your first question, yes you are the only one who thinks non points for the first races in Fla. Is  stupid. As far as why the Allstars cater to the guys who can't make it to Fla. In February, we just got rid of a guy who wouldn't cater to his customers and now Tony Stewart stepped up and he is taking care of his drivers. Can you imagine the backlash from the rest of the Allstars if Tony said, "I don't care if you like it or not, points start in Feb in Fla., if you can't make it screw you" and then, Mr. Meatbag, God forbid if it effected your favorite driver or you would be calling for Tony Stewart's head, I can almost read your post in my head, it would be like " Who else thinks Tony Stewart is a d bag for forcing guys that run a regional series mainly in Ohio, to pack their haulers in the middle of the winter to drive 20 hours to Fla for a couple races that don't mean shit, why wouldn't he make these non points races so these drivers don't get penalized for running a couple of races that kill more motors then the whole rest of the season".  I think Tony and the Allstars made the right decision, then again Hoseheads is the brain trust of Sprintcar racing so Tony should have consulted with the Hosehead elite posters before making that decision.



WOW, you got everything correct!  We must be twins.  Thanks for answering for everyone on the board, good to know I AM the ONLY person that thinks this.


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meatbag
February 11, 2016 at 10:09:09 PM
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I guess I won't post on here anymore, I didn't realize that people can't have opinions.  I forgot that every poster on here knows EVERYTHING.  

I'm just going to add that I'll never understand why anyone would schedule races in February in Florida for shits and giggles.  Seems like a lot of work for 4 shows that don't benefit your drivers since you're not rewarding any points.  Laslty, I don't care who owns the ASCoC, but some of you think that was my bitch as well?  Congrats on coming up with your own ideas on what I posted!  Have a nice racing season trolls!


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meatbag
February 11, 2016 at 10:11:22 PM
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Posted By: j20s on February 11 2016 at 03:04:39 AM

Yea, why have a series with 98% of races in one region, and not penalize them for not driving 20+ hours for a few irrelavant races way before the remainder of the schedule? Your intelligence is illustrated by your use of the confederate flag. 



By my USE of the confederate flag????   LMAO.  Sorry, I found a little picture on google images of a General Lee themed Sprint Car and thought it was a cool little profile icon.  I'm glad you take it as me being a southern racist!!!????   You people are borderline pathetic


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RW
February 12, 2016 at 07:47:28 AM
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Posted By: StaggerLee on February 11 2016 at 02:47:29 PM

To answer your first question, yes you are the only one who thinks non points for the first races in Fla. Is  stupid. As far as why the Allstars cater to the guys who can't make it to Fla. In February, we just got rid of a guy who wouldn't cater to his customers and now Tony Stewart stepped up and he is taking care of his drivers. Can you imagine the backlash from the rest of the Allstars if Tony said, "I don't care if you like it or not, points start in Feb in Fla., if you can't make it screw you" and then, Mr. Meatbag, God forbid if it effected your favorite driver or you would be calling for Tony Stewart's head, I can almost read your post in my head, it would be like " Who else thinks Tony Stewart is a d bag for forcing guys that run a regional series mainly in Ohio, to pack their haulers in the middle of the winter to drive 20 hours to Fla for a couple races that don't mean shit, why wouldn't he make these non points races so these drivers don't get penalized for running a couple of races that kill more motors then the whole rest of the season".  I think Tony and the Allstars made the right decision, then again Hoseheads is the brain trust of Sprintcar racing so Tony should have consulted with the Hosehead elite posters before making that decision.



Right on. Couldn't have said it better.





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