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When do we think we might have rules and schedules?  

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There is one correction to the release.  National events will pay four times the "Cash Bowl" points instead of three times.  "Cash Bowl" points and money are of course a bonus in addition to the purse the promoter pays on race nights.

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Motor rules and what tracks will run them is going to be big.  Will they be different than ASCS?  If so what will the weekly tracks do?  If you can't run the same motor at most places it's going to be tough.

If Estes puts in the gasket rule he has been talking about I think the NSL will be shooting themself in the foot. I agree with the above post we need to be able to run the same engine everyplace. I am tired of different series and different promoters making a rules package so you can only run with them.

I kind of agree about the gasket.  I've been wondering if a smaller restrictor and maybe even smaller headers would do any good at evening things out.  There has to be something that puts a stop to needing head updates every year like it's been the last several.

No offense but I think the NSL needs to get their 410 on more of a firmer ground.    They need to learn how to speed their shows up for one thing.    

Discussing the rules and engine packages at this time is rather senseless. Let it all be diclosed and then discuss those items. I do think the entire thing will boil down to simplicity and affordability. That's the only way to try and develop an even playing ground. The positive that I take from this is the potential money return for drivers and teams, and the incentives to commit to the series. First there are the local track incentives, secondly the regional incentives, and third the National incentives and the Cash Bowl. Using the ASCS as an example, it was tough to draw cars to National events because for those teams without a realistic opportunity to finish in the money, there was no real reason to make the haul. Now, there is an additional incentive in addition to competing and finish position, even if it's not at the top. My biggest concern for the sport we are passionate about, is what the cost might be for spectators. I think it's been getting out of hand for quite some time. Not so much at the local level in most cases, but for the Series events, it has. I for one am not interested in continually paying $35-$40 to go to a Series event that offers 5-6 drivers and teams that dominate, and a feild of the locals that I can see weekly. I know for a fact that the WoO for example don't sell near the tickets at a Knoxville event that they used to. But Knoxville has a great weekly program , so the locals don't need to pay the high prices to see a good show.

Tommy Estes told me years ago that the reason the ASCS stopped the use of the gasket rule is because more horsepower can be made with open heads and the gaskets than the ASCS heads. I find it interesting that the weekend racers will have to pull their injectors everytime they want to run an ASCS, Knoxville etc event......

Which race did you go to that ran long because of the 410 NSL group?

Good point.  We were pleased with 39 at CLS on Saturday night but I understand that some of the folks down in Nebraska weren't too happy with 15 at 39 car admission prices.  I'm sure they'll take a close look at this type of thing and make the necessary adjustments going into next year.  It's always tough at the end of the year when racing budgets are spent and teams are mathematically out of the points race.  In pro sports the teams down in the standings still have to show up for the last games of the season.  In Sprint Car racing that is not the case, they're all free agents that make their own decisions on a weekly basis. 

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Change can be frustrating, but something needs to be done to help reel in the expense of the engines and level the playing field a bit more. The ASCS model has failed, it has led to high costs with the top end of these engines.. Also it would not suprise me one bit to see Knoxville go the same direction as the NSL as they have already looked into it last year. 

I have yet to see anything that the NSL is doing to cut costs....With the 410s or 360s.

True words here , but what sticks out is  ,  DOING TO CUT COSTS ? whether it be NSL OR WoO . But one thing I like is the fact that racing is becoming more regionalized within a 4-5 state area to race in , teams can't afford to travel as much as they use too ,especially going  east coast to west coast . I look for more teams to jump to NSL or to the ALL STARS to save money .

Jackson's & never again......unless they will pay for a motel room.  Seen enough on the pay per view, to remind myself to stay away.

The NSL 360's is in its infancy and time will tell. I have zero objections to seeing the playing field with the Cylinder heads evened out a little bit.. I am sure they will announce rule packages soon enough.

Yes, but was when ASCS were mostly legal.  The ASCS ported heads are probable as good as open heads with gasket now.

Does ASCS, WOO, Knoxville, and NSL all use the same muffler when they run mufflers now?

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Hmmm.......I didn't realize that there haven't been any advancements in open 360s heads since the ASCS abandoned the restrictor gasket.