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ohiosprintcarfan83
July 09, 2015 at 10:43:30 PM
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Possible field for the King's Royal

1a Jacob Allen

1s Logan Schuchart

1 Sammy Swindell

1 Dale Blaney

2 Danny Lasoski ??

11 Steve Kinser

11k Kraig Kinser

29 Kerry Madsen

21 Brian Brown

9 Daryn Pittman

49 Brad Sweet

51 Paul McMahon

71 Joey Saldana

7s Jason Sides

10h Chad Kemenah

45 Tim Schaffer

9p Parker Price Miller

24 Rico Abreu

67 Christopher Bell

71 Kevin Swindell ??

15 Donny Schatz

2 Shane Stewart

81 Lee Jacobs

93 Sheldon Haudenschild

w20 Greg Wilson

41 Jason Johnson

3g James McFadden

35au Jame Veal

7 David Gravel

5t Travis Philo

40 Caleb Helms

89 Cody Darrah

19m Brent Marks

94 Ryan Smith

59 Danny Holtgraver

4 Danny Smith

19p Paige Polyack

6h Kenny Jacobs ??

49 Cole Duncan

11n Randy Hannigan

o5 Brad Loyet

1st Gary Taylor

21 D.J. Foos

63 Kody Swanson

2L Ed Lynch, Jr

2m Dustin Daggett

71xm Paul May

44w Austin Wheatley

55f Taylor Ferns

26 Tayler Maslem

9x Rob Chaney ??

97Dean Jacobs ??

Dallas Hewitt ??

Jac Haudenschild ??

98h Dave Blaney ??

24 Terry McCarl ??

18 Ian Madsen ??

13 TK ??

Dollansky ??

Roth Car ??

17w Bryan Clauson

Josh Baughman

2f Logan Forler

5w Lucas Wolfe

70 Roger Crockett

82 BWW Team ??

What does everyone else think??




Whyld92
July 09, 2015 at 11:22:17 PM
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 I'm just hoping for enough for a good C main. I know Lasoski, McCarl and I Madsen are running Knoxville according to their websites. I would image a few PA guys will come over (Marks, E lynch, maybe Wolfe) but I'm sure most are tuning up for W.G. the following weekend. 

 

For being, arguably, the 2nd biggest race of the year one would think pulling 65 plus cars would be a reality. So my question why will there most likely only be 45-50 cars? Too tough of a track? Not enough start money? Running for points at their home track? 2 day show not enough to make the tow? Too hard on engines? 



Tyler Beichner
July 09, 2015 at 11:37:29 PM
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Posted By: Whyld92 on July 09 2015 at 11:22:17 PM

 I'm just hoping for enough for a good C main. I know Lasoski, McCarl and I Madsen are running Knoxville according to their websites. I would image a few PA guys will come over (Marks, E lynch, maybe Wolfe) but I'm sure most are tuning up for W.G. the following weekend. 

 

For being, arguably, the 2nd biggest race of the year one would think pulling 65 plus cars would be a reality. So my question why will there most likely only be 45-50 cars? Too tough of a track? Not enough start money? Running for points at their home track? 2 day show not enough to make the tow? Too hard on engines? 



I doubt Lynch will. He's running weekly at Lernerville and I don't see him making the 5 hour tow for one night.




Paintboss
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July 09, 2015 at 11:40:01 PM
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Isn't it 48 cars that is needed to run the Kings Royal format?  6 heat races with 8 cars per heat if I remember right.  I'm kind of brooding about the whole deal since I am not able to go! 



Whyld92
July 10, 2015 at 12:01:51 AM
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I believe it is 48 cars. Win the 6th heat and you sit on the pole. 

 

Lynch usually comes over on Saturday. I think he was quick time several years ago and won a 4 wheeler for doing so. 

 

Personally, I love this race weekend. I would show up even if it drew 30 cars. Just wish it was a lil bigger event in aspects of the drivers/teams. 



Anthony Corini
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July 10, 2015 at 12:03:46 AM
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Posted By: Whyld92 on July 09 2015 at 11:22:17 PM

 I'm just hoping for enough for a good C main. I know Lasoski, McCarl and I Madsen are running Knoxville according to their websites. I would image a few PA guys will come over (Marks, E lynch, maybe Wolfe) but I'm sure most are tuning up for W.G. the following weekend. 

 

For being, arguably, the 2nd biggest race of the year one would think pulling 65 plus cars would be a reality. So my question why will there most likely only be 45-50 cars? Too tough of a track? Not enough start money? Running for points at their home track? 2 day show not enough to make the tow? Too hard on engines? 



Lucas is the points leader at Port Royal so I doubt you'll see him at Eldora. 




Whyld92
July 10, 2015 at 12:12:00 AM
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Lucas is the points leader at Port Royal so I doubt you'll see him at Eldora

Exactly!!! Kinda wish tracks wouldn't run against the Royal as far as points anyway I don't know, I'm just a fan who wants the Royal to be bigger than it is I guess. 



turn4guy
July 10, 2015 at 01:01:37 AM
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Posted By: Whyld92 on July 10 2015 at 12:12:00 AM

Lucas is the points leader at Port Royal so I doubt you'll see him at Eldora

Exactly!!! Kinda wish tracks wouldn't run against the Royal as far as points anyway I don't know, I'm just a fan who wants the Royal to be bigger than it is I guess. 



Yes I agree. I dont think any track in the country should run  410s against knoxville, Eldora or williams grove.. Talk about growing the sport... 80 to 100 car fields, increased payouts amd plenty more fans.  It could all happen if everyone came together for the betterment of the sport.....but sadly it wont.



linbob
July 10, 2015 at 01:06:31 AM
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Posted By: Whyld92 on July 10 2015 at 12:12:00 AM

Lucas is the points leader at Port Royal so I doubt you'll see him at Eldora

Exactly!!! Kinda wish tracks wouldn't run against the Royal as far as points anyway I don't know, I'm just a fan who wants the Royal to be bigger than it is I guess. 



Kings Royal pays exact same $50,000 now as it did many years ago.  I would bet you can now buy about 1/2 as much now as you could back them.  I will also bet the ticket prices are about twice as high now as then.  It needs to pay more all the way thru field.  You will then get more cars.




Whyld92
July 10, 2015 at 03:39:35 AM
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I agree 100%. Pay more through the field and the car count will increase. I bet if Tony could sell one more hotdog he could probably up the start money. Haha



gators0849
July 10, 2015 at 07:08:13 AM
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Posted By: linbob on July 10 2015 at 01:06:31 AM

Kings Royal pays exact same $50,000 now as it did many years ago.  I would bet you can now buy about 1/2 as much now as you could back them.  I will also bet the ticket prices are about twice as high now as then.  It needs to pay more all the way thru field.  You will then get more cars.



Ticket prices haven't moved much over the years. As for the pay, it should probably be higher through the field than it has been.



csracing72c
July 10, 2015 at 07:19:15 AM
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Craig Mintz and Chris Andrews might run




larsonfan
July 10, 2015 at 07:47:21 AM
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Posted By: turn4guy on July 10 2015 at 01:01:37 AM

Yes I agree. I dont think any track in the country should run  410s against knoxville, Eldora or williams grove.. Talk about growing the sport... 80 to 100 car fields, increased payouts amd plenty more fans.  It could all happen if everyone came together for the betterment of the sport.....but sadly it wont.



That's asking a lot. It's a tough economy still, and our race tracks are fighting for people's entertainment dollars. If you asked a track to close for every "big" sprint race, that track wouldn't be around very long. For a lot of tracks the season is short as it is, plus figure in rainouts. I think it is unreasonable to ask a track like Knoxville to shut down for a track like Williams Grove, which is almost a thousand miles away. Remember, this is a business.

saphead
July 10, 2015 at 09:04:14 AM
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$25 for friday night and $32 for Saturday general admission.  Can't beat that. 

 



csracing72c
July 10, 2015 at 09:21:49 AM
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Posted By: saphead on July 10 2015 at 09:04:14 AM

$25 for friday night and $32 for Saturday general admission.  Can't beat that. 

 



And a 6 pack of beer...............$10!!!!




blazer00
July 10, 2015 at 10:18:32 AM
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Posted By: linbob on July 10 2015 at 01:06:31 AM

Kings Royal pays exact same $50,000 now as it did many years ago.  I would bet you can now buy about 1/2 as much now as you could back them.  I will also bet the ticket prices are about twice as high now as then.  It needs to pay more all the way thru field.  You will then get more cars.



Was visiting with Doug Wolfgang about that a few years ago at his shop. He was the "King Laureate" in 2010 when Sammy won the King's.......he told me that he and Sammy discussed those things on stage, and Sammy said they had over $50,000 in their engine. Doug said the last time he won the King's and collected the $50K, they had $9000 in their engine.



jac22
July 10, 2015 at 10:30:52 AM
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Posted By: blazer00 on July 10 2015 at 10:18:32 AM

Was visiting with Doug Wolfgang about that a few years ago at his shop. He was the "King Laureate" in 2010 when Sammy won the King's.......he told me that he and Sammy discussed those things on stage, and Sammy said they had over $50,000 in their engine. Doug said the last time he won the King's and collected the $50K, they had $9000 in their engine.



Engine cost have increased then at 500%. I wonder what ticket prices were for the first Kings Royal? I doubt ticket prices have increased that much. If they would pay 20% more purse would they get 20% more fans? Probably not. They are right in there sweet spot as far as making money increase in purse wouldn't increase car counts or attendence at same rate. Earl was about making money but he really wanted to have the "biggest show" which he tried to do w/ the HBO but it just didn't make financial sense. I go to the royal every year and will continue toSmile



puckzx6
July 10, 2015 at 11:33:24 AM
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Posted By: larsonfan on July 10 2015 at 07:47:21 AM
That's asking a lot. It's a tough economy still, and our race tracks are fighting for people's entertainment dollars. If you asked a track to close for every "big" sprint race, that track wouldn't be around very long. For a lot of tracks the season is short as it is, plus figure in rainouts. I think it is unreasonable to ask a track like Knoxville to shut down for a track like Williams Grove, which is almost a thousand miles away. Remember, this is a business.


I think not running at all is excessive, but maybe not for points. Placerville use to do that for the Dirt Cup.




chilly
July 10, 2015 at 01:54:18 PM
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Posted By: blazer00 on July 10 2015 at 10:18:32 AM

Was visiting with Doug Wolfgang about that a few years ago at his shop. He was the "King Laureate" in 2010 when Sammy won the King's.......he told me that he and Sammy discussed those things on stage, and Sammy said they had over $50,000 in their engine. Doug said the last time he won the King's and collected the $50K, they had $9000 in their engine.



The last year Wolfie won the Royal was in '90.  If that's true ($9k), that's pretty crazy.  I know that a lot of guys were experimenting with higher compression engines at the Nationals that year ('90) - and more blew during the A-Main than I ever remember!  Higher compression usually = higher $$$ ... so maybe that was the turning point for engines racing towards $30k and beyond!!?  



jdfast
July 10, 2015 at 04:18:54 PM
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Posted By: blazer00 on July 10 2015 at 10:18:32 AM

Was visiting with Doug Wolfgang about that a few years ago at his shop. He was the "King Laureate" in 2010 when Sammy won the King's.......he told me that he and Sammy discussed those things on stage, and Sammy said they had over $50,000 in their engine. Doug said the last time he won the King's and collected the $50K, they had $9000 in their engine.



Would $9K even cover a rebuild for a 410 these days.

 

As a fan would we notice a difference in racing if the motor had 950 or 700HP ?  

 

We would notice a difference in more cars, been to some shows with just 20 cars, left wanting more.  Been to a few shows with only one class of sprint cars with nearly 80-90 cars, those are the races I remember, really tough to just make the semi.   I could care less if the motor cost $20 k or $65K

 

 





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