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July 02, 2015 at
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Just finished watching WoO highlites from the last couple races where Schatz started 10th and won. Good greif, there is no question as to what Donny, has that the rest of the drivers are lacking. Ability in and with lapped traffic. Now, there were a couple yellows that helped him at Lakeside, but......Saldana had pulled a bit of distance on Schatz, and then damn near ran over Brian Brown in three and lost all kinds of momentum. and if you look at earlier portions of the race, Madsen, Pittman, they all had brain fade in lapped traffic. The same things happened both nights. They run right up on lapped cars and have no place to go. Donny times the lapped traffic and wizzes through it, around it or under it, and the drivers for position if front of him. Reminds me of Kinser, Swindell and Wolfgang in lapped traffic. They learned that part of racng early in their careers when they had to start at the back of their local race features, and yet still made their way to the front to win. I watched Doug do it early on in his career, and have heard Steve and Sammy talk about it in interviews. All three have said the same thing. You can't just run up on lapped cars....you have to time your momentum and get past them when they are off the throttle. Also, holding back at just the right time enables you to change your line and look like a magician. That's also why it often times looks like Schatz is kicking in the "after burners" and going by drivers. Watch those two races a couple times, and you'll see it. It's almost as if the guys in front of Donny are saying "here Donny, win another one!"
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July 02, 2015 at
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Posted By: blazer00 on July 02 2015 at 10:31:22 PM
Just finished watching WoO highlites from the last couple races where Schatz started 10th and won. Good greif, there is no question as to what Donny, has that the rest of the drivers are lacking. Ability in and with lapped traffic. Now, there were a couple yellows that helped him at Lakeside, but......Saldana had pulled a bit of distance on Schatz, and then damn near ran over Brian Brown in three and lost all kinds of momentum. and if you look at earlier portions of the race, Madsen, Pittman, they all had brain fade in lapped traffic. The same things happened both nights. They run right up on lapped cars and have no place to go. Donny times the lapped traffic and wizzes through it, around it or under it, and the drivers for position if front of him. Reminds me of Kinser, Swindell and Wolfgang in lapped traffic. They learned that part of racng early in their careers when they had to start at the back of their local race features, and yet still made their way to the front to win. I watched Doug do it early on in his career, and have heard Steve and Sammy talk about it in interviews. All three have said the same thing. You can't just run up on lapped cars....you have to time your momentum and get past them when they are off the throttle. Also, holding back at just the right time enables you to change your line and look like a magician. That's also why it often times looks like Schatz is kicking in the "after burners" and going by drivers. Watch those two races a couple times, and you'll see it. It's almost as if the guys in front of Donny are saying "here Donny, win another one!"
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Finally a intelligent post on Schatzs recent string of wins, he is a awesome driver with a team that does its homework enough said!
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July 03, 2015 at
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Posted By: blazer00 on July 02 2015 at 10:31:22 PM
Just finished watching WoO highlites from the last couple races where Schatz started 10th and won. Good greif, there is no question as to what Donny, has that the rest of the drivers are lacking. Ability in and with lapped traffic. Now, there were a couple yellows that helped him at Lakeside, but......Saldana had pulled a bit of distance on Schatz, and then damn near ran over Brian Brown in three and lost all kinds of momentum. and if you look at earlier portions of the race, Madsen, Pittman, they all had brain fade in lapped traffic. The same things happened both nights. They run right up on lapped cars and have no place to go. Donny times the lapped traffic and wizzes through it, around it or under it, and the drivers for position if front of him. Reminds me of Kinser, Swindell and Wolfgang in lapped traffic. They learned that part of racng early in their careers when they had to start at the back of their local race features, and yet still made their way to the front to win. I watched Doug do it early on in his career, and have heard Steve and Sammy talk about it in interviews. All three have said the same thing. You can't just run up on lapped cars....you have to time your momentum and get past them when they are off the throttle. Also, holding back at just the right time enables you to change your line and look like a magician. That's also why it often times looks like Schatz is kicking in the "after burners" and going by drivers. Watch those two races a couple times, and you'll see it. It's almost as if the guys in front of Donny are saying "here Donny, win another one!"
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You are absolutely spot on.
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July 03, 2015 at
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Spot on..Like the King or Wolfgang in their natural prime. Donny is in it now. Didn't Kinser win 40+ features one year ?
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July 03, 2015 at
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Posted By: veteranracer on July 03 2015 at 07:51:53 AM
Spot on..Like the King or Wolfgang in their natural prime. Donny is in it now. Didn't Kinser win 40+ features one year ?
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1987 was the year and it was 46 wins
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July 03, 2015 at
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You guys are full of crud! We all know from reading the other thread that the only reason he's winning and the only reason he's so good in lapped traffic is because his traction control is perfectly programmed... And it must be true if someone came on hoseheads and said it!
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July 03, 2015 at
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Posted By: sprintman11 on July 03 2015 at 08:35:46 AM
1987 was the year and it was 46 wins
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Wait what...46 wins when the competition was 1000x better than it is now? Say it isn't so!!! He was obviously cheating!!
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July 03, 2015 at
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Posted By: blazer00 on July 02 2015 at 10:31:22 PM
Just finished watching WoO highlites from the last couple races where Schatz started 10th and won. Good greif, there is no question as to what Donny, has that the rest of the drivers are lacking. Ability in and with lapped traffic. Now, there were a couple yellows that helped him at Lakeside, but......Saldana had pulled a bit of distance on Schatz, and then damn near ran over Brian Brown in three and lost all kinds of momentum. and if you look at earlier portions of the race, Madsen, Pittman, they all had brain fade in lapped traffic. The same things happened both nights. They run right up on lapped cars and have no place to go. Donny times the lapped traffic and wizzes through it, around it or under it, and the drivers for position if front of him. Reminds me of Kinser, Swindell and Wolfgang in lapped traffic. They learned that part of racng early in their careers when they had to start at the back of their local race features, and yet still made their way to the front to win. I watched Doug do it early on in his career, and have heard Steve and Sammy talk about it in interviews. All three have said the same thing. You can't just run up on lapped cars....you have to time your momentum and get past them when they are off the throttle. Also, holding back at just the right time enables you to change your line and look like a magician. That's also why it often times looks like Schatz is kicking in the "after burners" and going by drivers. Watch those two races a couple times, and you'll see it. It's almost as if the guys in front of Donny are saying "here Donny, win another one!"
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Lap traffic is what separates the good ones from the great ones. The great ones are looking a couple cars ahead of them and planning ahead 2-3-4 laps. They can watch and see where they are better than the cars in front of them and time it to hit them in that spot making it look like the other cars are just moving over and letting them go. It's all about timing and hitting the slower cars at the right spot on the track and the great ones make it look easy.
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July 03, 2015 at
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July 03, 2015 at
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Posted By: Tyler Beichner on July 03 2015 at 10:43:51 AM
Wait what...46 wins when the competition was 1000x better than it is now? Say it isn't so!!! He was obviously cheating!!
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Competition 1000x better than now? No way. Everyone has the same shit now. Kinser won alot of races by having 100hp on the entire field. What #15 is doing is incredible and he knows it. So he keeps pushing. Shane stewart shows up to the track, picks a flatbrim and collects his check. Nobody pays attention to detail like Donny Schatz. And it shows.
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July 03, 2015 at
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Wolfgang won 45 (out of 91 races) in 1977 driving for Bob Trostle, then won 55 (including 17 in a row) in 1985 driving Trostle cars for Weikert, Kinser then won 56, might indeed have been in 1987, and to my knowledge, no one has won more in single season.
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July 03, 2015 at
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Posted By: turn4guy on July 03 2015 at 11:14:33 AM
Competition 1000x better than now? No way. Everyone has the same shit now. Kinser won alot of races by having 100hp on the entire field. What #15 is doing is incredible and he knows it. So he keeps pushing. Shane stewart shows up to the track, picks a flatbrim and collects his check. Nobody pays attention to detail like Donny Schatz. And it shows.
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I was being sarcastic. The competition is great now, and nobody has equipment much better than anyone else.
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July 03, 2015 at
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Posted By: Tyler Beichner on July 03 2015 at 12:22:06 PM
I was being sarcastic. The competition is great now, and nobody has equipment much better than anyone else.
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Yea I read your post too quick. My bad. And obviously I agree... I hope other people understand what they're watching with Donny Schatz, because its unprecedented in my opinion.
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July 03, 2015 at
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Wolfgang said once that he would back off a little on the back streatch so that he would catch a lapped car going into turn 3 cause that was the best place to pass them. He was talking about Knoxville.
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