Forum: HoseHeads Sprint Car General Forum (go)
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Yep, if you own a cell phone, a TV, or even a car or motorcycle, chances are you've bought into the same system you're putting down. I'm all for bringing jobs back to America, but let's face it, other countries and their companies simply do things better, faster, and cheaper. It's just how business works. 

And for the point of this thread, the outlaws do not suck or they wouldn't be surviving with $30+ tickets to events. I'm a posse guy and as much smack as everyone around here talks, we still spend that money to go watch them when they show up.

Rico mediocre? Had a good many wins last year to be considered mediocre. Almost as many a Schatz i might add, only in how many classes. Where as Schatz is a one class pony. Nothing agaist that at all. I just don't see where winning 24 races in 4 different classes makes one MEDIOCRE!!!!!

Global economy, look it up and educate yourselves before you spew your BS about buying American made. When Americans can produce a product as good as a XXX for the same price Im sure all these drivers would be happy to switch back, until then stop bitching about chinese chassis.  I have read people making jokes about the posibility of a chinese 410 engine, laugh all you want, if China can produce a comprable 410 engine for less money, you can bet your ass that American Sprint car teams will be buying them, and they should.

Add ignorance to idiot and racism!

And posting about it on this forum while constantly bashing the best sprint car drivers on earth will be just what we need to change the world and make it a better place. Besides I'm sure you don't own anything that was made in China. What a fine patriot you are......

Rico beat Dale Blaney at Eldora last year. I'd hardly call that mediocre.

I may have been misunderstood. I meant Rico is mediocre outside of the west coast when he is in a sprint car. Sure he has good runs here and there but he is not as good outside of CA. I like Rico but its a fact. Schatz Pittman Mcmahon Saldana are consistant throughout the states. Its ridiculous to think that the locals are better than outlaws.

Rico had wins in Arizona. Oregon, South Dakota, Eldora Ohio, Illinois, Indiana, and New Zealand in 2014, not all in a winged sprinter but I think he does OK outside of Cali, certainly better than mediocre. Rico is a threat to win on any track anywhere in any type of open wheel dirt car. Most of his wins are in California because thats where he races the most. If he moved to Pa he would be winning here too. Hes simply as good as it gets in open wheel competition today.

I like Rico, he's awesome. But let's look at his Outlaw finishes in California versus elsewhere this season:

Cali: 2 wins, 5th, 10th

Nevada/Arizona: 14th, 15th, 16th

Let's not pretend he would be competing for the WoO title if he ran full time with them.

Exactly, Rico is good where he is used to running, IN A WINGED CAR. Midgets hes awesome period. The difference between Rico and the top tier outlaw teams is that they top 5 almost every where, Rico does not when he out on tour for times here and there. Don't get me wrong here, I hope Rico fails in Nascar. I would love to see him have a full time ride in WoO. He is fun as hell to watch when he is running competitively.

Second last year on night one at the World Finals. And it was the first time he ever raced on the track. Oh, he led the first 22 laps before Pittman got him. All this against one of the toughest fields of the year. 

Medicore my ass. He can wheel a 410 sprint car anywhere in the country. 

BIG J

"Luck is what happens when preparation meets opportunity."

Tough weekend for Cubes.....

I thought Kraig Kinser was running a J&J??

He did out at Cocopah in January but every picture I've seen of the 11K since the WoO season started, he's been in a Triple-X. I hope it's a positive move and he ends up having a good season. I've always liked him for some reason. Hopefully he can find his stride and get back where his NASCAR stint.

Outlaws aren't that bad.....Cali drivers are just that good.

Those "sticky" tires are harder this year than a year or so ago.

Got lucky? COme on Cubes, shouldn't you be invoking the "Outlaws cheat" excuse by now?

i would like to chime in here if i may. it seems your link is a responce trying to substanciate that the HR 15 tire is a softer tire than has been run in the past just because it claims to be a " slightly softer" H compound tire. while it may be just slightly softer for a lack of a better word than a regular "H" compound, it is not softer than the tires run in the past.

the compounds in the past have been as low as a 12. that is softer than a 15 as well as a HR15.

the tires run this year are harder than the goodyears were.

the only thing that has gotten softer is your head. and i don't mean the one on your shoulders.

to indy and beyond!!

Earlier this year I saw an explanation of how the HR 15 tire is different but now I cannot find anything except what Hoosier has posted and that does not tell us much.  Somebody please help me out here.  I am thinking that it was posted back in January when the new tire was announced.  Thanks.

ahhhh yes, bring back the sixties and run whatcha' brung...

Ascot was the greatest of all time..

West Capital wasn't half bad either..

Life is good...

"I didn't see a big problem when we had to put on the 16" (wide right rear tire) for the ASCS show. I think 16" is a move in the right direction, but it plain and simply is not enough. The tire companies will probably freak out on this, but I believe we need to cut the left rear width back to around 12" to help take some of the drive out of the car. Less tire, less power needed." - Jeff Swindell

Dewease thinks the problem is easily solved. "The late models went through this years ago," Dewease said. "They had a big right rear and had all these wedges to put in the car, and it was too easy to go fast. We have the same problem. They went to a narrow tire and unhooked the cars and now, they have to race." 

"That's what we need to do. The tires have gotten so good, that we need to go to a smaller tire." - Lance Dewease

It was an eye-opener to some when they compared the right rear tire of a late model to that of a sprint car (at the World Finals).

The right rear tire of the late model is considerably smaller in circumference and width. The late model also weighs twice as much as a sprint car, but yet, uses half the tire.

At one time the late models had wedge bodies and plexiglas wings and sideboards all over them and they also used a big soft floppy right rear tire. When they finally outlawed the wedge bodies and went to the harder and smaller tire, the racing arguably got a whole lot better. Those who have been advocating for smaller and harder tires for sprint cars say that something could be learned from the late models.

I've had an ongoing argument/debate with a couple of drivers who want to solely blame the racetrack when, on occasion, the racing isn't what we hope it would be. If it weren't for the late model race, where they were passing, I'm sure those guys would still say it was the fault of the racetrack and that it "was too fast" and not slick enough for the sprint cars. But the argument goes right out the window when the late models were able to pass and put on a good race on the same racetrack. - Brad Doty

 
 
 
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