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Topic: Outlaws only giving 1 point to fastest qualifier in 2015
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February 14, 2015 at
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Interesting change from prior years.
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February 14, 2015 at
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Yay! Good move
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February 14, 2015 at
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Posted By: dsc1600 on February 14 2015 at 10:36:13 AM
Interesting change from prior years.
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Then why bother with qualifying? Not that I don't like to watch but with the draw for inversion and no points to gain it kinda takes away the incentive to be a top qualifier.
Bring back Santa Fe, and LaSalle .
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February 14, 2015 at
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I don't disagree. I wonder if this is the first step towards potentially getting rid of the invert?
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February 14, 2015 at
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Qualifying points were added as a way of discouraging "sandbagging" during qualifying. In 2015 (and an inversion of 4 in the heat races), it's MUCH tougher to try to "sandbag" qualifying for a front row starting position. (AND the four or five fastest qualifiers who transfer from their heat earn starting positions in the dash as well). So the "need" for a larger qualifying bonus no longer exists.
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February 14, 2015 at
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Posted By: Johnny Gibson on February 14 2015 at 09:04:45 PM
Qualifying points were added as a way of discouraging "sandbagging" during qualifying. In 2015 (and an inversion of 4 in the heat races), it's MUCH tougher to try to "sandbag" qualifying for a front row starting position. (AND the four or five fastest qualifiers who transfer from their heat earn starting positions in the dash as well). So the "need" for a larger qualifying bonus no longer exists.
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Thanks Johnny, I didn't know they went to a 4 car inversion.
Bring back Santa Fe, and LaSalle .
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February 15, 2015 at
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The heats have actually been a 4 inversion for several years now. The incentive to be a fast qualifier comes from locking the 4 (4 heat program) or 5 (3 heat program) fastest qualifiers into the dash PROVIDED THEY TRANSFER from their heat. AND the dash (before the inversion draw) is lined up straight up by times, so if the 0 pill is pulled for the dash inversion (1 in 8 chance), the fast qualifier COULD start up front in the dash. There was more incentive to "sandbag" when the heat inversion was 6 and only the top 2 in the heats went to the dash. (And again, in my opinion, it's nearly impossible to "sandbag" qualifying with a 4 car heat inversion and the cars as equal as they are today.)
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February 15, 2015 at
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The system works...don't change it
Lincoln 1845 ft/.35 mile T1=118MPH
Eldora 2287 ft/.43mile T3=135MPH
Port 2716 ft/.51 mile T3=TBD
Grove 2792 ft/.53 mile T3=135MPH
Selinsgrove 2847 ft/.54 mile T1=136MPH
"I didn't move to PA from El Paso in search of better
weather." Van May
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February 15, 2015 at
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Still not sure about that. It always seemed that Donny knew how to make sure to qualify 16th (and therefore get Spot 1 in the invert) every damned night.
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February 15, 2015 at
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Posted By: Mephit71 on February 15 2015 at 11:16:25 AM
Still not sure about that. It always seemed that Donny knew how to make sure to qualify 16th (and therefore get Spot 1 in the invert) every damned night.
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Right, and he programmed the time that he had to time in at into his traction control. 
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February 16, 2015 at
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Not a fan of the 5-4-3-2-1 system. I will leave names out, as this is not personal. In 2013, the driver that won the Outlaw points title won the title by 14 points. This driver had 10 more quicktimes than the driver second in the season points race, or in other words, an additional 50 points earned from qualifying. You could make a case that the driver won the title qualifying, not racing. I'm sure I'm about to get ripped to shreds, but the numbers don't lie.
Sprint car racing is life. The rest is just details...
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February 16, 2015 at
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Posted By: Racefanrcs on February 16 2015 at 10:59:02 AM
Not a fan of the 5-4-3-2-1 system. I will leave names out, as this is not personal. In 2013, the driver that won the Outlaw points title won the title by 14 points. This driver had 10 more quicktimes than the driver second in the season points race, or in other words, an additional 50 points earned from qualifying. You could make a case that the driver won the title qualifying, not racing. I'm sure I'm about to get ripped to shreds, but the numbers don't lie.
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Trust me, the topic has been discussed in detail over and over. haha
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February 16, 2015 at
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I need to ask because my mind is a little tired. Can somebody explain how the (8) cars qualified for the dash last night at the WoO show. I must be missing something. I've had (2) different people explain their version to me but neither of them make any sense. Johnny G.? Thanks in advance...z
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February 16, 2015 at
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Posted By: z-man on February 16 2015 at 04:14:32 PM
I need to ask because my mind is a little tired. Can somebody explain how the (8) cars qualified for the dash last night at the WoO show. I must be missing something. I've had (2) different people explain their version to me but neither of them make any sense. Johnny G.? Thanks in advance...z
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z - It was a 3 heat show, so the top 5 from qualifying plus the 3 heat winners make up the 8 car dash. In a 4 heat show it would be the top 4 qualifiers plus the 4 heat winners to make up the 8 car dash. The one caveat is that the top qualifiers also have to make the A main transfer in their heat to make the dash. All 5 did last night.
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February 16, 2015 at
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Posted By: dsc1600 on February 14 2015 at 10:36:13 AM
Interesting change from prior years.
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That is one point to many.
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February 16, 2015 at
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TWSprunk,
Thanks for the reply...z
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