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http://theboard.southjerseydirtracing.com/DisplayMsg.asp?ForumID=27&Msgid=2236708&page=1&Title=URCo%20to%20close%20down%20operations

Sorry if posting a link to another board is a problem but didn't find the release anywhere else.

Funny that there is no mention of the URClub that had gotten committments from almost all of the company's drivers that were left before they closed up shop. Not surprising though.

BTW, a certain poster on here likes to call Bob Miller one of the best promoters in racing, but while his Thunder on the Hill shows at Grandview are still money makers, he was the principal promoter of the URCompany.  Anyway, this is small potatoes compared to All Stars/Renegades, but was very much the same type of dispute, and the long established company is the that has folded

There is  more to this then you know , Bob Miller  is a honest credible man , with much integrity , does alot  for drivers, fans , owners and sponsors . He   brought  USAC  back  to pa  , and is always  looking  to bring new forms of racing  to this area  , as  you  will  see  for the entertainment of fans. So please  don't  be to fast  to judge  anyone  reading the press release , he wants only the best  all involved  in racing .

If you say it, it must be true because you have proved yourself to be a wealth of knowledge on this board.

I wonder how this is going to affect the make-up feature at Lincoln next year for USAC and URC.  He was the promoter that night and would have had all the money.  Hopefully he puts that money back up so the drivers and fans don't get hosed on that.  Was looking foreward to the make-up show next year.

I have been to many of his shows over the years at Grandview and have enjoyed them and supported them.

However I also know that some drivers and car owners in a series where he had significant authority parked their cars and have also now banded together to reform the club...and that more drivers are committed to the races that club is going to run this year than had run the companies races in the last 5.

I know that one of the drivers who was involved in reforming the club, won the final race for the company this year at a Miller promoted race.  I know that the company champion was interviewed in victory lane, however Miller told the announcer that evening that he was not allowed to interview the driver who won the race. 

Then in an interview with the Area Auto Racing News the following week he justified it by bad mouthing the driver and saying that he was not going to allow someone to "talk bad" about his series on his microphone.  While this may have been within his rights to do, it made him sound very petty and angry, while in the same interview piece in the paper the driver took the high road and did not openly criticize anyone, only saying he would have liked to have the opportunity to thank his sponsors at the race.  (BTW, the fans at the race booed quite loudly when it was clear that there would be no interview allowed with the race winner).

I know that the year before there was a weather situation at this same OCtober race, and while I don't remember the details because I did not attend, and unfortunately the local message boards have already deleted the old threads, many people were very upset with him for how the pace of the night, the cancellation, and rescheduling was handled, claiming that it was a money grab and saying they would not support another Thunder on the Hill Show.

So while I have been to many of his shows and appreciate his bringing USAC into the East, I am not going to buy it if he is called one of the "best" promoters in the country.

A few years ago, Miller got rained out at grand view for the usac show, didn't refund but made a big deal about having double features the next year. Instead of having double features, he ran one 50 lap race with a fuel stop in the middle. Paid 1 purse. 

Had the WoO done that, our favorite p o s t e r, would still be talking about it. 

You're exactly right. Could you imagine what “o u r fa vori te poste r" would have to say about it if the World of Outlaws had pulled a stunt like that? If I had to bet, I'd say Bob Miller is one of the few people left who hasn't grown tired of him constantly badgering them with his stupid ideas and imaginary fan club or whatever it is he does or attempts to do. I know if I were a track owner or promoter, I would've told him to get lost.

Thanks  for  your comments  your  opinions are  wrong , but  you are entitled  to think the way you want.AN NO I  would not criticize  WoO if they had done similiar things . There  were all good reasons why some of the things  were done by Bob Miller .You  people  don't know all you proclaim  to know ,as I don't as well . You like the way WoO DOES there racing , and I don't , I would  rather watch local  guys or USAC then follow the leader .   But as  I  said before  the racing could be better  if the cars were freed  up more , but why change there packing the house .

 I am  not the wealth of knowledge , but you don't care to hear other opinions do you ?

I remember a time not so long ago when I took it for granted that I knew how to properly use my space bar. I no longer do. Thank you for making me appreciate this simple, yet important skill.

All I know is.... I hope they make the trip down South again for the United Sprint Car Series shows... Its fun competing with them....

Brandon McLain
United Sprint Car Series Driver
2014 Season
National Rookie of the Year!
National Points - 8th
Southern Points - 3rd
Asphalt Points - 3rd
18 Races, 3 Top 5's, 14 Top 10's

I appreciate  you showing me my spacing was not good , as I taught myself and really didn't pay much attention to my spacing of words . I'd  like to think more is important then someones typing skills .

LOL....does anybody else see the irony in the statement "Thank you for your comments your opinions are wrong" and "You people don't know all you proclaim to know as I don't as well." Classic

Anyway, I presented factual events.  The URCompany is no longer in operation, is it?  There is a competing URClub formed at the end of the recent season that was formed due to the fact that drivers and car owners were not happy with the URCompany, and this club has gotten committments from nearly all of the former URCompany drivers and car owners as well as ones who had parked their cars the last 3-4 years, correct?  The incident at Grandview in October with Curt Michael happened, did it not?  The quotes in the racing paper by the parties involved exist, do they not?  The cancellation issue at the event in Oct of 2013 happened, did it not?  The presented situation with the other rained out USAC show where one feature was run instead of the initially announced two also happened, did it not?

No one is saying that promoting isn't a difficult business, that Miller hasn't put on good shows, that some of these events that have happened are not complicated (for instance, I am willing to bet that USAC probably didn't want to run twin features on the same night, but then don't promise them initially)......I am not even saying that Miller is a bad promoter, but since you have come on here more than once to call him one of the greatest in the country....I am calling you on it, because these events did happen.

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agree 200%, I hate the follow the leader prima donnas.!!!

So did you watch the World Finals on TV last night? Lots of follow the leader racing there such as Schatz going from the rear to as high as 3rd and finishing 4th. Surely that 3 car race for the lead at the end was follow the leader wasn't it?