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Murphy
December 06, 2014 at 08:15:08 PM
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Posted By: winning drive on December 06 2014 at 07:46:31 PM

Let me  answer the questions asked of me from other  people on this message board . I have written WRG or  WoO about various issues , opinions , and ideas I have  to improve the racing , and most of all the overall  fan  experience . While I realize they are not going change the way there rules are written for one fan , all I asked for is a simple reply. BUT NEVER GOT ONE pertaining to my  ideas or to enhance the fan activities ,and so forth .So I don't bother to even write them anymore ,this writing  was done long ago . I personally know how to make the fan activities better and the racing as well but that won't happen because there drivers are happy the way things are . Ok , the racing has improved but can be improved as anything can be improved .  I know the racing itself is the main reason most fans go to WoO racing or any racing . But I personally support  all racing , the drivers,the teams and  especially our local drivers.While you may not agree with me , I feel the down time ,the non -racing excitement can be better . To me the WoO is doing the same thing they been doing for years and years , I know how its going go down before it happens , not the racing , THE LACK OF CREATIVITY THAT EXISTS DURING THE NIGHT , as you know it is repetitive over and over again . I believe besides the racing the crowd should be entertained to put a lasting memory of how great  the night was especially for  the kids who are the future fans of tomorrow . This is only a brief capsule of my feelings about the WRG but I will not bore you ,as there is more . But I know what you are thinking , don't go to  the WoO races and I don't only a few during the year , as I FINE THERE RACING BORING COMPARED TO LOCAL ,USAC or other racing groups . But no matter I respect everyone of you , your thoughts and only wish to see things better for you .THANKS FOR READING , I HOPE THIS ANSWERS SOME OF THE WHY'S I WRITE THE WAY I DO , no hatred just want the best for all.



     If they never answered your letters, I think they're trying to tell you something.  Rather than bitch and moan and bitch and moan, why don't you simply start your own nationwide sprintcar series and run them out of business with your blinding entertainment abilites?  I bet they'll be sorry they ever messed with the likes of you.  Certainly they'll regret the day they didn't heed your advice and bow to your wisdom on how to run their business.  Go get 'em cowby!



winning drive
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December 06, 2014 at 09:41:27 PM
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Posted By: Murphy on December 06 2014 at 08:15:08 PM

     If they never answered your letters, I think they're trying to tell you something.  Rather than bitch and moan and bitch and moan, why don't you simply start your own nationwide sprintcar series and run them out of business with your blinding entertainment abilites?  I bet they'll be sorry they ever messed with the likes of you.  Certainly they'll regret the day they didn't heed your advice and bow to your wisdom on how to run their business.  Go get 'em cowby!



Thanks  for opinion , never told them  how to run there  business



oswald
December 08, 2014 at 12:48:46 AM
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Posted By: winning drive on December 06 2014 at 07:46:31 PM

Let me  answer the questions asked of me from other  people on this message board . I have written WRG or  WoO about various issues , opinions , and ideas I have  to improve the racing , and most of all the overall  fan  experience . While I realize they are not going change the way there rules are written for one fan , all I asked for is a simple reply. BUT NEVER GOT ONE pertaining to my  ideas or to enhance the fan activities ,and so forth .So I don't bother to even write them anymore ,this writing  was done long ago . I personally know how to make the fan activities better and the racing as well but that won't happen because there drivers are happy the way things are . Ok , the racing has improved but can be improved as anything can be improved .  I know the racing itself is the main reason most fans go to WoO racing or any racing . But I personally support  all racing , the drivers,the teams and  especially our local drivers.While you may not agree with me , I feel the down time ,the non -racing excitement can be better . To me the WoO is doing the same thing they been doing for years and years , I know how its going go down before it happens , not the racing , THE LACK OF CREATIVITY THAT EXISTS DURING THE NIGHT , as you know it is repetitive over and over again . I believe besides the racing the crowd should be entertained to put a lasting memory of how great  the night was especially for  the kids who are the future fans of tomorrow . This is only a brief capsule of my feelings about the WRG but I will not bore you ,as there is more . But I know what you are thinking , don't go to  the WoO races and I don't only a few during the year , as I FINE THERE RACING BORING COMPARED TO LOCAL ,USAC or other racing groups . But no matter I respect everyone of you , your thoughts and only wish to see things better for you .THANKS FOR READING , I HOPE THIS ANSWERS SOME OF THE WHY'S I WRITE THE WAY I DO , no hatred just want the best for all.



This is why people bash you on here. You constantlt say you know how to make the fan activities better and the racing better too.

 

But you never give any details! How are you going to do it? If you never say what your ideas are or what you would do different you will never have your opinions respected. 

 

It's easy to say "I know how to make everything better" if you never say how. You say you want others opinions but never give details for us to give opinions on. 

 

Just the constant "I can make it better and this track/sanction does not do anything for the fans."




Keyboard Jockey
December 08, 2014 at 09:03:31 AM
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Posted By: winning drive on December 06 2014 at 07:46:31 PM

Let me  answer the questions asked of me from other  people on this message board . I have written WRG or  WoO about various issues , opinions , and ideas I have  to improve the racing , and most of all the overall  fan  experience . While I realize they are not going change the way there rules are written for one fan , all I asked for is a simple reply. BUT NEVER GOT ONE pertaining to my  ideas or to enhance the fan activities ,and so forth .So I don't bother to even write them anymore ,this writing  was done long ago . I personally know how to make the fan activities better and the racing as well but that won't happen because there drivers are happy the way things are . Ok , the racing has improved but can be improved as anything can be improved .  I know the racing itself is the main reason most fans go to WoO racing or any racing . But I personally support  all racing , the drivers,the teams and  especially our local drivers.While you may not agree with me , I feel the down time ,the non -racing excitement can be better . To me the WoO is doing the same thing they been doing for years and years , I know how its going go down before it happens , not the racing , THE LACK OF CREATIVITY THAT EXISTS DURING THE NIGHT , as you know it is repetitive over and over again . I believe besides the racing the crowd should be entertained to put a lasting memory of how great  the night was especially for  the kids who are the future fans of tomorrow . This is only a brief capsule of my feelings about the WRG but I will not bore you ,as there is more . But I know what you are thinking , don't go to  the WoO races and I don't only a few during the year , as I FINE THERE RACING BORING COMPARED TO LOCAL ,USAC or other racing groups . But no matter I respect everyone of you , your thoughts and only wish to see things better for you .THANKS FOR READING , I HOPE THIS ANSWERS SOME OF THE WHY'S I WRITE THE WAY I DO , no hatred just want the best for all.



Alright winning drive, here is your chance. I will give you the opportunity right here! 

I am thking your exact words out of your post to give us some clarification. 

 I have written WRG or  WoO about various issues , opinions , and ideas I have  to improve the racing , and most of all the overall  fan  experience .

Give us 3 things that will improve the racing. 

1.

2.

3.

Give us 3 things that will improve the overall fan experience. 

1.

2.

3.

 

I personally know how to make the fan activities better and the racing as well.

please share if anything different than above.


To me the WoO is doing the same thing they been doing for years and years , I know how its going go down before it happens , not the racing , THE LACK OF CREATIVITY THAT EXISTS DURING THE NIGHT , as you know it is repetitive over and over again . I believe besides the racing the crowd should be entertained to put a lasting memory of how great  the night was especially for  the kids who are the future fans of tomorrow .

People keep attending also, year after year, race after race. Can you tell us which part is repetitave?

 

Just giving you a chance here. 

 

 



tenter
December 08, 2014 at 04:28:55 PM
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Im waiting.................................................



IADIRT
December 08, 2014 at 04:49:41 PM
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No down time and a promptly ran show is all I ask for. Racing is the entertainment for me, not what happens inbetween. Supports classes are appreciated since each class needs time to work on their cars but not so many classes that I cant even remember what all ran that night.




oswald
December 08, 2014 at 04:59:20 PM
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Posted By: Keyboard Jockey on December 08 2014 at 09:03:31 AM

Alright winning drive, here is your chance. I will give you the opportunity right here! 

I am thking your exact words out of your post to give us some clarification. 

 I have written WRG or  WoO about various issues , opinions , and ideas I have  to improve the racing , and most of all the overall  fan  experience .

Give us 3 things that will improve the racing. 

1.

2.

3.

Give us 3 things that will improve the overall fan experience. 

1.

2.

3.

 

I personally know how to make the fan activities better and the racing as well.

please share if anything different than above.


To me the WoO is doing the same thing they been doing for years and years , I know how its going go down before it happens , not the racing , THE LACK OF CREATIVITY THAT EXISTS DURING THE NIGHT , as you know it is repetitive over and over again . I believe besides the racing the crowd should be entertained to put a lasting memory of how great  the night was especially for  the kids who are the future fans of tomorrow .

People keep attending also, year after year, race after race. Can you tell us which part is repetitave?

 

Just giving you a chance here. 

 

 



You will get no reply from winning drive. He has no specific ideas and most likely never contacted WRG or WoO unless it was just with generic complaints, like what he posts here. He just keeps posting the same crap thinking it makes him look like he knows alot about sprint car racing when he doesn't know crap.

 

Hey winning drive.... prove me wrong!



fiXXXer
December 08, 2014 at 05:21:55 PM
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Posted By: winning drive on December 06 2014 at 09:41:27 PM

Thanks  for opinion , never told them  how to run there  business



You didn't tell them how to run their business? Uhh......yeah you did. You wrote them and told them they need to do something different than what they are. That is in fact telling them how to run their business. 



fiXXXer
December 08, 2014 at 05:32:17 PM
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Posted By: winning drive on December 06 2014 at 07:46:31 PM

Let me  answer the questions asked of me from other  people on this message board . I have written WRG or  WoO about various issues , opinions , and ideas I have  to improve the racing , and most of all the overall  fan  experience . While I realize they are not going change the way there rules are written for one fan , all I asked for is a simple reply. BUT NEVER GOT ONE pertaining to my  ideas or to enhance the fan activities ,and so forth .So I don't bother to even write them anymore ,this writing  was done long ago . I personally know how to make the fan activities better and the racing as well but that won't happen because there drivers are happy the way things are . Ok , the racing has improved but can be improved as anything can be improved .  I know the racing itself is the main reason most fans go to WoO racing or any racing . But I personally support  all racing , the drivers,the teams and  especially our local drivers.While you may not agree with me , I feel the down time ,the non -racing excitement can be better . To me the WoO is doing the same thing they been doing for years and years , I know how its going go down before it happens , not the racing , THE LACK OF CREATIVITY THAT EXISTS DURING THE NIGHT , as you know it is repetitive over and over again . I believe besides the racing the crowd should be entertained to put a lasting memory of how great  the night was especially for  the kids who are the future fans of tomorrow . This is only a brief capsule of my feelings about the WRG but I will not bore you ,as there is more . But I know what you are thinking , don't go to  the WoO races and I don't only a few during the year , as I FINE THERE RACING BORING COMPARED TO LOCAL ,USAC or other racing groups . But no matter I respect everyone of you , your thoughts and only wish to see things better for you .THANKS FOR READING , I HOPE THIS ANSWERS SOME OF THE WHY'S I WRITE THE WAY I DO , no hatred just want the best for all.



That doesn't answer anything. Still not one single detail. I'm convinced you don't have any specific ideas. You post these vague messages hoping people will give you ideas that you can use for your imaginary fan club or whatever the hell it is because you can't think of any on your own. Why is it that these clubs you've started such as pa posse fans association have failed if your ideas are so brilliant?




Johnny Utah
December 08, 2014 at 07:10:02 PM
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Posted By: tenter on December 08 2014 at 04:28:55 PM

Im waiting.................................................



Haha.  I was thinking the same thing.



longtimefan
December 08, 2014 at 07:53:46 PM
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winning drive, Here is a list of things I want from a race track when I attend.

A starting time close to the advertised time ( it cant be perfect because track prep isn't an exact science)

An honest effort at track prep, ( It doesn't always work out as planned I just like to think that they tried)

A decent field of cars.

A show run in three to four hours.

If they give me those things sometimes the racing is good and sometimes it is not so good but that is they the way it works out. But if they made an honest effort at those things you take the bad with the good.

Something I don't want is a lot of time spent trying to be cute and entertaining like I am a five year old. If I wanted that I would go to a movie, play or concert. I like to be able to talk with friends some during a little down time without an anouncer constantly winding off about things unrelated to the racing because he feels the need to entain me from the minute I show up until I leave. Believe it or not many kids are there for the racing also and those ones are most likely to be the future fans.



oswald
December 09, 2014 at 01:41:38 PM
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Posted By: Keyboard Jockey on December 08 2014 at 09:03:31 AM

Alright winning drive, here is your chance. I will give you the opportunity right here! 

I am thking your exact words out of your post to give us some clarification. 

 I have written WRG or  WoO about various issues , opinions , and ideas I have  to improve the racing , and most of all the overall  fan  experience .

Give us 3 things that will improve the racing. 

1.

2.

3.

Give us 3 things that will improve the overall fan experience. 

1.

2.

3.

 

I personally know how to make the fan activities better and the racing as well.

please share if anything different than above.


To me the WoO is doing the same thing they been doing for years and years , I know how its going go down before it happens , not the racing , THE LACK OF CREATIVITY THAT EXISTS DURING THE NIGHT , as you know it is repetitive over and over again . I believe besides the racing the crowd should be entertained to put a lasting memory of how great  the night was especially for  the kids who are the future fans of tomorrow .

People keep attending also, year after year, race after race. Can you tell us which part is repetitave?

 

Just giving you a chance here. 

 

 



See, 28+ hours and no response from winning drive. He has no specific ideas. That why he posts the same generic crap all the time.




BigRightRear
December 09, 2014 at 02:05:18 PM
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I am conviced there is an intelligence quotient disparity at play here...anyone have a copy of the book "the bell curve" handy?


Lincoln 1845 ft/.35 mile T1=118MPH 
Eldora 2287 ft/.43mile T3=135MPH
Port 2716 ft/.51 mile T3=TBD
Grove 2792 ft/.53 mile T3=135MPH
Selinsgrove 2847 ft/.54 mile T1=136MPH
"I didn't move to PA from El Paso in search of better 
weather." Van May

Johnny Utah
December 10, 2014 at 06:20:32 AM
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Posted By: BigRightRear on December 09 2014 at 02:05:18 PM

I am conviced there is an intelligence quotient disparity at play here...anyone have a copy of the book "the bell curve" handy?



You might be on to something.  Any guess as to how many standard deviations from the mean we are talking about here?  At least two, right?



MSPN
December 10, 2014 at 08:32:00 AM
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He's from PA, that's all you need to know, he kinda fits in pretty well from what I've seen.....




GT730
December 10, 2014 at 09:29:19 AM
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Whoa whoa whoa MSPN.

 

PLEASE don't generalize all of us into this idiot's category.

Believe it or not, some of us in PA are actually intelligent and do not despise the WRG for not emailing us back. I'm sure many other Pennsylvanians would agree thay we hate this guy as much as the rest of the other 49 states do.



MSPN
December 10, 2014 at 10:01:30 AM
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I must be the only guy that doesn't hate him.  I thought he started this as a joke and then couldn't get out of it, heck he's cleaned up his posts a whole bunch.  Got lots of smart knowledgable friends in PA, most of them not in this forum....



BigRightRear
December 10, 2014 at 10:48:07 AM
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Posted By: Johnny Utah on December 10 2014 at 06:20:32 AM

You might be on to something.  Any guess as to how many standard deviations from the mean we are talking about here?  At least two, right?



Johnny Utah mentions "standard deviations from the mean" and Nelligan chimes in...you can't make this sh!t up!


Lincoln 1845 ft/.35 mile T1=118MPH 
Eldora 2287 ft/.43mile T3=135MPH
Port 2716 ft/.51 mile T3=TBD
Grove 2792 ft/.53 mile T3=135MPH
Selinsgrove 2847 ft/.54 mile T1=136MPH
"I didn't move to PA from El Paso in search of better 
weather." Van May


Johnny Utah
December 10, 2014 at 01:28:34 PM
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Posted By: BigRightRear on December 10 2014 at 10:48:07 AM

Johnny Utah mentions "standard deviations from the mean" and Nelligan chimes in...you can't make this sh!t up!



Come on, BRR.  You know you enjoyed the statistic vocabulary name drop.



MSPN
December 10, 2014 at 02:29:00 PM
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And BRR proves what I said about the Posse fans in this forum, you're so right you can't make this shit up, next we need cubic and we may have a Trifecta.....





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