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So the possibilty of a driver being under the influence and wrecking and hurting someone else is a good enough reason to drug test? Using your logic, If somone is mowing their lawn under the influence there is a possibility that they could lose control of the mower and hurt a neighbor or bystander sooooo, we should randomly drug test anyone who is about to use a lawn mower to set a precident that you could get drug tested for lawn mowing, there by detering others from using drugs  while mowing. OK now it makes sense. LOL

Yes it matters if there is a problem, becasue if there isnt a problem then there is no need to test.

Thank you to everyone that has responded. It was an interesting thread, and it's understandable that this is such a hot-button topic.

The research I have gathered on this through talking to drivers, track promoters, different testing facilities, etc, has also been interesting. The way Australia does it is an eye opener in that it is done efficiently and doesn't take away from the show itself. No delays. No inconvenience to drivers.

Talking to the drivers, there wasn't one that was against it. In fact, they were all emphatically in favor of it. Again interesting. The other thing that struck me was that some drivers were more worried about alcohol than pot or another substance.

Again, thank you very much for your responses. And no names will be used in any story I write. The only thing that might be mentioned is a message board name or handle. Thanks again.

One of the big issues I think with this topic is what about the drivers that are responsible and are respectful of their fellow competitors by not being under the influence of any type of drugs or alcohol. People can argue all they want about what the effects of what drugs have on people but the fact remains is that they do have an effect on people. They can test or they cannot test, doesnt really matter to me as i have no dog in the fight (not an owner or driver or promotoer), they are the ones who will decide. A day will come though unfortunately where an accident will happen involving a driver who is under the influence and a driver who is not and the driver who is not will be injuried and maybe even worst sad to say. When that happens I'm sure ESPN will be all over it, and this board will light up about opinions and it will be yet another black eye on this sport that we all love or so some say they do. Can drug testing prevent this? Doubtful and unlikely but at least the major media cant say that the sport did not try. Nothing can be done to prevent every tragedy from happening, but the big people involved have to decide is the cost worth the reward.

So will we soon see commercials for lawyers for your Saturday night racers? Just when you thought your tire bill was huge! 

kinda funny that this website attracts fans who oppose drug testing of drivers (who seem to want it for safety reasons) so vehemently that you'd think THEY were going to be asked to test before sitting in the grandstand...and fans who take every opportunity to lash out at a chasis manufacturer that a DRIVER AND TEAM CHOOSES to run...claiming they are not safe!

...smoke'm while you got'em...

Tyler Walker...call on line 2

Lincoln 1845 ft/.35 mile T1=118MPH 
Eldora 2287 ft/.43mile T3=135MPH
Port 2716 ft/.51 mile T3=TBD
Grove 2792 ft/.53 mile T3=135MPH
Selinsgrove 2847 ft/.54 mile T1=136MPH
"I didn't move to PA from El Paso in search of better 
weather." Van May

I'd have to bet that track insurance policies will make some form of drug testing mandatory here in the near future. Seems pretty simple to me. 

Stagger,

how fast do lawn mowers go and when your mowing how many spectators are there. when you mow high you probably only risk hurting yourself

WOW.......That right there may take the " idiotic post of the year " award hands down ! 

+100

You just hit the nail on the head !!! Could not have said it better.

staggerlee......what about we leave it up to a driver vote only ? If 90% want it will you be calling those 9 out of 10 drivers idiots and paranoid?  They are the ones at risk, lets let them decide. We'll let the fans decide on if we test each other in the grand stands and the drivers won't be able to have a say.

With the hardcore way you are against it one would think maybe you just bought a sprintcar and was gearing up for 2015...lol

Hell, I think that there should be drug testing before being allowed to post on a racing messageboard...

Member of this message board since 1997

Take all the shots you want, Not one of you can name an on track incedent or death that was a resilt of drug use. But we better do it just in case. I can't believe what a bunch of sheeple we have on here. Keep letting people tell you how to live your life and intrude on your rights as a free American, the Govt. loves people like you. You probably believe DUI laws are for your safety also. Keep it safe guys, and do what your TV tells you.

Please let the drivers decide, if they have any balls they will say hell no, and it has nothing to do with wether they use or not, it's BS to make some innocent guy piss in a cup when he has done nothing wrong. That's where it ends for me. Any further discussion is a waste of time.

Over your intelligence level I guess, or you don't understand sarcasm. Can someone explain it to one hung low he's a little slow on the pick up.

"If you choose to be in an industry that DOES test, then you have to give up that privacy."

He gets it. Sprint car racing doesn't presently require drug testing. He wants to keep it that way. No contradiction at all

I have to take randoms where i work and the cheap tests have up to a 5% false positive rate.   The HR department makes the worker aware of this and has the option to go straight to the lab for a blood draw in the event of a positive test.  Are there going to be people certified to give these drug tests?  Is the driver going to have the option to go straight to a lab in case of a false positive to clear his reputation? Which will require two samples, and still drive that night?  What about prescriptions drugs?  There are many that say don't operate vehicles or machines but they are not covered on a cheap test.   What about alcohol?  driving with a hangover is as dangerous as being under the influence.  maybe a 36hr rule restraining from alcohol?  What about people in the stands who consume beer?  They may drive home under the influence, wich put women and children at risk too.  maybe we should just shut everything down, have no races and sit at home in a room and be safe.   Then we don't need to worry about those pesky rights.  What a sheep mentallity we have become.  Most of you are the same crowd when pulled over on the side of the rode and the cop has a finger up your ass, your belongings in the ditch and your family being frisked smile and think its cuz they are keeping you safe and free.  what a joke

Actually they have.   You, for whatever reason refuse to read their opinion and relate how that may tie into the bigger picture as they see it. If you don't agree with their opinion that's fine, but to throw insults at people is childish at best.

Makes me wonder a lot about you. 

Does their have to be an on track death to implement it?  How would you feel if you were at the local races and a driver wheeled into a corner too fast took out another driver and a tire came over the fence hitting a loved one/friend possibly killing them?

 It's one thing if it were just a freak accident. That situation would be terrible enough as it is.  It would be an entirely different deal and much worse if the police during the investigation tested both of the drivers and found one of them were hot on something.  So not only did that driver's actions result in a spectators death, but they are also going to be charged with at best negligent homicide/manslaughter or if the DA is really feeling proud of their position a murder charge.  Additionally imagine what that driver's family would be going through as well.  

Just because it hasn't happened doesn't mean we shouldn't do something to protect ourselves against it.  

I like how burned out fans show their hands in threads like this...entertainment value!

Lincoln 1845 ft/.35 mile T1=118MPH 
Eldora 2287 ft/.43mile T3=135MPH
Port 2716 ft/.51 mile T3=TBD
Grove 2792 ft/.53 mile T3=135MPH
Selinsgrove 2847 ft/.54 mile T1=136MPH
"I didn't move to PA from El Paso in search of better 
weather." Van May

It is sad that people need a boogie man to feel better about themself.  Throw away the fourth, fifth and fourteenth amendments to stomp out a boogie man named drugs.  No cost is too much to stomp out the boogie man.  Reduce the purses and put the money in the hands of the testing companies instead of the racers, just to kill the boogie man.  Hide under your bed the boogie man is after you unless you submit to the conservative christian value system and fear the boogie man.  Blame drugs for all your short comings.  The boogie man loves spineless sheep who submit to his will.  Run and hide the boogie man is after you.  The boogie man will force you to inject and snort the pots.  Evil.  Terror.  Fear.  Evil.  Terror.  Fear.  Fair & balanced.  Rush Limbaugh should be the drug czar of racing.  Vote for Michelle Bachman 2016.  She will save us from the boogi man.

Bingo!!

Although some of the posters should be on something...