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I saw that Keselsowski said he "tried racing the way tehy want me to and I didn't make the Chase, so I've gotto do what I've gotta do".   Maybe that means he's just not talented enough to win when it involves "racing", he can only win if he can drive "rough". 

He wouldn't last too long in the short track world IMO (he'd be out of car owners and equipment (wait, didn't he basically run his family operation out of $$ and ready to shut down their own racing operations when he got a "lucky break" and drove for Junior in Nationwide?).  Guess he's already done that and didn't realize it's him that needs to change.

He wasn't such a fan of "do what you gotta do" when Carl got tired of him a while back.  Guess he's forgot that already.  Probably time for someone to remind him.  

I still cannot understand something, Gordon clearly came down on Brad... Does everyone else see that comletely different?  Where was the spotter in that situation?

DA

From my perspective (on the couch), Gordon held his line (he didn't commit to the top, he committed to the middle which is the line he ran when Brad hit him in the side).

The seams in the blacktop aren't showing the driving lines around the track, just where they laid down the asphault.

IMO - and this is OPINION ONLY - Brad has been driving out of control all season (not just last Sunday).  It's a matter of time before his sponsors start questioning his attitude and reasoning ability (he's probably more brash and a bigger "jerk" than Kurt Busch was and Miller didn't want Kurt in the Miller Car because of his attitude).  Brad will need a friend on the track at somepoint in the next couple weeks (to cut him a break so he can get to pit lane or so he can squeeze up in front of them shen he gets loose) and he'll find he has ZERO friends out there except maybe his teammate.

when dale sr won daytona he could hardly talk in some of the later interviews. he was hanging onto the back of a motorcycle at 2 am because he could hardly walk.  so get over it.

to indy and beyond!!

dude i hope you never are called as a witness to a murder because with your observation skills they would be looking for the wrong person.

to indy and beyond!!

I predict that in the next few years Keselowski's fanbase numbers are in the top five in NASCAR. The trouble with the Busch brothers is that they were both acting like spoined whiny babies. Brad comes across more blue collar-bring it on! There are a few different factors that everyone have touched on: Jr. brought him on, he is "no holds barred" and the comparison to Dale Sr.'s partying ways all seem to add up to someone Jr. hired that reminded him of someone very close to him.

I have no problem with Brad's driving style and I do not see any issue with the move that he did on Sunday. The issue that I think a lot of people have is how he handles situations after the race is over. The fact that he has his pit crew surround him and protect him while he walks away. I do not think that situation would have been as bad as it was if he would have just faced him adult to adult and both of them told the crews to take a hike. When the crew members started pushing each other and brad started to walk away (then harvick nudged him back in) was when things got bad. There would have been some yelling and cussing between the two but I don't think it would have been as bad.

Its good for NASCAR ratings to see drivers fight but do the sponsors want to see the face of some of these companies fighting? I think that is engrained into drivers heads not to embarass sponsors. Just my .02

They fight like a bunch of pussies....they would have never made it in my school....

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Lucky for them Marcus wasn't imvolved or they'd still be flat on their backs!

I'd be willing to be that Harvick's mouth is much bigger than its bite.  He seems like a c*nt to me.  That skinny puss probably couldn't kick his own a$$.   I'd say Carl Edwards and Marcos Ambrose are the two guys in the pits you probably shouldnt f*ck with.

Everyone needs to stop their whining... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ko94oniszuA

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Carl did not try to kill him.  That is one of the most outlandish comments ever.   While Carl was getting some revenge that day, he had NO intention of hurting the little kid that drives way over his head.

most of the time brad is the ass. most of the time he deserves to get the crap knocked out of him. this time he didn't do anything to deserve it.  hell jeff went up the track a little and brad saw daylight and went for it. that is his job. jeff tried to crowd brad back and they hit each other. if jeff would have held his line brad would have passed him and jimmie, so jeff threw the block. that's his job.  the thing is jeff had to blame someone for his screw up.

so brad was just supposed to get out of his car and go get in an altercation with jeff? why? brad is already on probation for being an idiot a couple weeks ago so he knows he doesn't need to get into another pit road altercation. especially for once when he didn't really do anything wrong.

the crew doesn't want to take any chances that their driver gets himself in more trouble also.

so brad actually did what he was supposed to this time. he tried to walk away.

actually jeff has been the one the last few ywears that has acted like a brat. remember when he waited for bowyer and took him out under yellow....for something that was actually jeff's fault on the track  jeff gordon ain't no church boy.

to indy and beyond!!

I fully agree Jeff was having one of his little hissy fits that he is known to have from time to time. Seems like whenever someone gets so much as a car length from him he throws a fit. All i am saying is this is not the first time Brad has had to have his crew get between him and someone else. Honestly I think if Brad would just talk to them face to face everything would have been fine. Initially Jeff just came up to talk, or yell, or whine about the situation but there were two crew members between them as there always are it seems. I know that the crews try to protect drivers but in this situation it seemed like they just intensified the situation to much by pushing and shoving before when cooler heads could have prevailed. Brad got himself on probation because of his actions over the same thing. He has no one else to blame but himself how other drivers feel about him. Right now no one seems to respect him and I doubt many people give him much room in the next couple of weeks.

Really????  Not that I give two shits what you think but I will call it as I see it.  So intentionally turning somebody back into a wall knowing they are going to bounce back down the banking into traffic isn't trying to hurt a guy?  https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Vz9OXptTwVQ

The little kid has a CHAMPIONSHIP and Carl has nothing and most likely isn't going to get one. I have nothing against Carl but to say Brad drives way over his head is BS. Everybody thought it was OK when Earnhardt was doing the same crap but then let someone else drive like they want to win every race and you say they drive way over there head. Harvick is an idiot, all he wants to do is blame everyone in pits for his self made demise. Lead the most laps and fall on your face and the throw a temper tantam about your crew when you just can't get the job done. IT'S ALWAYS SOMEONE ELSES FAULT WHEN YOU DEAL WITH GORDON AND HARVICK.

DALE ERNHARDT sr was one of the roughest drivers of his time..Everybody loved him...Racin is racin..Get over it...Brad will win in Phoenix next week..

the 60 car was racing for the win...sucked to be the punk that day!

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