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Tony Stewart case in hands of grand jury, charges shouldn't be filed

I have seen the videos and still do not have an opinion on this tragic accident. Did Tony hit Kevin on purpose? I dont think so!  But it doesnt look good for Tony Stewart now. It's my opinion that the Ontario County District Attorney's office/ the sheriffs department is passing it on to the grand jury so they don't have to deal with this tragic accident. It's a bad deal all around! The safest place for a race car diver on the track is in the race car! Kevin's emotions took over from an on track altercation and he left his race car "the safe zone"  and it ended his life.

i don't think anyone is saying tony hit ward on purpose or that the case will be presented to the grand jury with that as the only option.

to get a charge filed all the grand jury has to find is that tony maybe acted in a reckless mannor. all they have to do is give some credence to the idea that tony may have tried to intimidate ward or something else that was reckless or negligent. that's it.

this is not a trial and this is not a jury deciding guilt or if the case is winnable. all they have to decide is if they think there is a chance tony did something...anything that contributed or resulted in wards death.

i'm not saying the grand jury will find that way.

i'm just saying people who are so sure nothing will come out of this grand jury shouldn't be.

to indy and beyond!!

Not sure why i'm even bothering posting on this topic because it's like beating a dead horse anymore...but, I can only share 1 aspect of this situation that I see fit. 

Since NOBODY knows exactly what happened or what the outcome will be let me share my opinion on the subject.  From the video of that incident all I saw was the #14 car put a slide job on the #13 car, due to the angle of the video it's hard for me to say that there was even CONTACT between the cars.  Nevertheless if there wasn't, the #13 car got put into a situation where he may have had to get out of throttle to keep from crashing, which in a result caused him to hit the wall/tires or whatever the boundary was (I'm not concerned cuz I'm not watching the video ever again).  In my eyes if the #14 car doesn't feel like he made contact with the #13...then he comes around under caution and some dude is on the race track charging at him!  Why would the #14 car be even be thinking of trying to harm anyone at this point?  As far as I see it, he seen the caution, slowed down and here comes a guy on the racing surface out of nowhere.  The end result is a sad one but there will NEVER be a thought in my head that the #14 car came around to doing anything intentional.  If people don't see it like that then I just don't know anymore?  This situation is not like Tony got roughed up and came looking to hurt someone, he is just the guy that got caught up in someones elses anger and the end result was a tragedy.

do it in the dirt

It was not a slidejob. He was running beside him down most of the frontstretch.

It was a slidejob

+1, and I really don't wanna hear anything else about this until there's some real news.   By referring it to grand jury they just kicked the can down the road for a little while longer.    All anyone really wants at this point is to know whether or not there will be charges.   

Tony knew he was racing the #13 for position. And it sure looks to me like Stewart went from the bottom of turn one to the top of turn 2 in one move, and chopped the #13 - a slide job. I don't think anyone can say Stewart was oblivious to the #13 having an issue and bringing out the yellow - which I'm sure was called immediately over the raciever for all to hear.  Plus, as Stewart was idling down the frontstretch and turn 1 under caution, surely he saw Ward's car in turn 2 and saw Ward on the track.  Yes had on a black suit, but it had reflective triping on it.

Before anyone goes ballistic on me - especially the Tony Stewart fan club members, I am not saying FOR ONE SECOND Tony tried to hit him on purpose.  But I am saying I believe Tony is partly to blame too.  Just my opinion.

http://m.torontosun.com/2014/08/12/stewart-tried-to-intimidate-ward-canadian-driver-says

 
 
 
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Slide job or not? What we all don't know is the other evidence film etc thout has been entered into evidence. What is known is the " throttle up " on the video that is heard. How do u throw someone a right rear?  2 sides to every case and both deserve to be heard. Case should not be a cover up for anybody 

This is a very smart move on the part of the district attorney.

Given all of the publicity that this matter has and will continue to be getting by all of the "unknowledgeable talking heads and pretty hair-dos," this will be a real hot potato.  By sending it to a grand jury, any decision will be made by that group as opposed to the district attorney.  Good political move!

Tucson Osty

Thats what I have been saying all along......

Regardless of the grand jury findings, there will forever be three unfortunate facts that can never be altered:  Tony Stewart will live the rest of his life knowing he caused another's death (albeit accidental or out of his control), to many the reputation and integrity of Tony Stewart will always be in doubt, and finally; a young man lost his life.

More than likely witnesses will take the stand for the grand jury.  In my opinion, the most important witnesses in this whole ordeal are those drivers that were either directly in front of Stewart, or directly behind him. I saw through articles that the driver in front of Stewart said it was pure luck that he missed Ward, and I saw in another article that the driver only 2 or 3 cars back of Stewart indicated that Stewart did everything he could to miss him.  There were obviously a lot of people that witnessed the horrific accident that night, but unless you were somone on the track and close to the scene, it's all speculation!

in my opinion the phrase "caused another's death" shouldn't be used or throw around lightly.

we don't know that tony "caused" anything.

he was involved in an incident. the extent of his involvement in the legal sense is yet to be determined. if the grand jury thinks tony caused anything, accidental or not, that is enough to pursue charges.

but i know what you mean.

to indy and beyond!!

How in the hell do you race someone down the frontstretch enter the corner but definatley can't hold your line because of a slicked off track ?

I always thought a slide job was you stay behind the car until almost the corner & drove/dove towards the bottom of turn & slid up in front of said competitor. Until I hear different from some drivers thats what I believe.

I don't think Tony ever got above the cushion & Kevin was definately in the marbels.

I also do not believe they touched or the frontend of Kevin's car would have hit the wall 1st & it looked to me like once he was in the rough stuff the rearend kicked out enough to catch the wall.

Not to many people want to bring up the facts. Had the young man stayed in his car, like all drivers are told to do and should do!! None of us would even be talking about this nor would it have ever happened!! This young man put everyone on that track that night in more danger than anyone else ever could have!! His emotions got the best of him and it cost him his life. Point blank pure and simple, sad but true!! jmo

That is the same thoughts I posted on this topic on the second post of this topic!!! The safest place to be on the race track is in a race car!!! 

"involved" is more correct....thank you