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September 11, 2014 at
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Was wondering if anyone knew what would be taking so long for this investigation to wrap up?
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September 11, 2014 at
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Posted By: Speed Racer 9 on September 11 2014 at 11:03:08 AM
Was wondering if anyone knew what would be taking so long for this investigation to wrap up?
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Ask Chris Christie.
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September 11, 2014 at
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Two reasons come to mind. One, news media and two Lawyers.
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September 11, 2014 at
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Posted By: Speed Racer 9 on September 11 2014 at 11:03:08 AM
Was wondering if anyone knew what would be taking so long for this investigation to wrap up?
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Refer to web page: www.jayski.com. Page contains a brief update on status.
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September 11, 2014 at
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Posted By: sonoranrat on September 11 2014 at 01:32:45 PM
Refer to web page: www.jayski.com. Page contains a brief update on status.
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This is what they are saying, cuz they have no idea what to do about this situation : Stewart, Ward investigation complete; statement next week: Statement from Ontario Co. Sheriff's Office. Investigation complete: "The Ontario County Office of Sheriff has completed its investigation into the death of Kevin A. Ward, Jr., which occurred August 9, 2014, at the Canandaigua, New York, Motorsports Park. The entire thorough investigation, including a forensic video enhancement recently received from the New York State Police Laboratory in Albany, has been submitted to the Office of the Ontario County District for review. The District Attorney's Office, which has been meeting throughout the investigative process with members of the Sheriff's Office, will make a statement late next week advising what action will be taken regarding the investigation. Philip C. Povero, Sheriff ,Ontario County, New York(9-11-2014)
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September 11, 2014 at
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They're going after him.
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September 12, 2014 at
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Posted By: racin buddy on September 11 2014 at 10:42:13 PM
They're going after him.
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you mean they're going after his assets!!...but, if it was anyone else, with no assets!!...thats what it would be,nothing but winning a Judgement in the case!!...that it'll prolly end up being settled ($$$$) outa Court...
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Posted By: Bruce Goodwin on September 12 2014 at 12:44:21 AM
you mean they're going after his assets!!...but, if it was anyone else, with no assets!!...thats what it would be,nothing but winning a Judgement in the case!!...that it'll prolly end up being settled ($$$$) outa Court...
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Do you have a reading disorder or do you just like putting words in other people's mouths?
I said they are going after HIM!
The authorities aren't interested in a civil case. They are going to charge him with something.
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September 12, 2014 at
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Posted By: racin buddy on September 12 2014 at 01:32:51 AM
Do you have a reading disorder or do you just like putting words in other people's mouths?
I said they are going after HIM!
The authorities aren't interested in a civil case. They are going to charge him with something.
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I'm saying the aren't going after him. I'm sure there will be a civil trial, but I'll be very surprised if they file any criminal charges.
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September 12, 2014 at
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The fact that the findings of the investigation are being given to the DA and the police won't give any details about the findings doesn't sound good for Tony. Ultimately it will be the decision of the DA whether to file any charges, but it sounds to me like the police feel like they've gathered enough evidence for an indictment. When the police take a month to wrap up an investigation, its because they are trying to build a case. They don't investigate for a month to prove you're innocent.
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September 12, 2014 at
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Posted By: Rogue-9 on September 12 2014 at 03:24:04 PM
The fact that the findings of the investigation are being given to the DA and the police won't give any details about the findings doesn't sound good for Tony. Ultimately it will be the decision of the DA whether to file any charges, but it sounds to me like the police feel like they've gathered enough evidence for an indictment. When the police take a month to wrap up an investigation, its because they are trying to build a case. They don't investigate for a month to prove you're innocent.
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Accidents investigations (even on the highway) can take MONTHS and they always give the findings to the DA as it is the DA's office that makes the determination on charges are to be filed (outside of citations for speeding, failure to maintain control, etc.). To me, this is no different, it's up to the DA, not the police.
This is standard operating procedure in ANY type of auto accident. the fact that the DA will have a statement within a week tells me they feel that no charges will be filed, otherwise they probably wouldn't have even mentioned that they were done. if they wanted to file charges, they'd still be collecting evidence, eye witness testimony, etc.
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September 12, 2014 at
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What in this announcement are you guys reading that makes you think they are going after him. I'm with Vande. Sounds to me like they have nothing.
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September 12, 2014 at
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The police do the investigation and hand over the evidence or lack their of to the DA for them to decide if there is anything to pursue charges or prove no wrong doing. Being this is a high profile case and you can bet everyone involved in it was taking their time double/triple checking anything and everything to cover their butts.
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Posted By: racin buddy on September 12 2014 at 01:32:51 AM
Do you have a reading disorder or do you just like putting words in other people's mouths?
I said they are going after HIM!
The authorities aren't interested in a civil case. They are going to charge him with something.
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Ha!Ha! ...yup, thats me harry!!..like I said, kids parents will more n likely file a Civil wrongfull death suit against T.Stewart,because of who He is,n his Assets ($$$$)!!...JMO..but hope I'm wrong...
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Im confident that there will be no charges against Stewart for the simple fact they dont know for sure what happended.
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September 13, 2014 at
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Posted By: scottb15 on September 12 2014 at 07:58:49 PM
Im confident that there will be no charges against Stewart for the simple fact they dont know for sure what happended.
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Good point, and combine that with the fact that anything they charge him with has to be proven. I'm sure any prosecutor would love to be able to make a name for themselves by prosecuting a celebrity if they could. IMO, if they had anything on Tony that would bring a conviction they would have already arrested him.
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September 13, 2014 at
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They have quite a few people claiming that it looked like Tony tried to intimidate or spray the kid. Drivers, crew members and fans. All they need is a reason to make a case. The law is not on your side in this phase of the system. Just think of the cases that have resulted in charges with little evidence or conflicting evidence.
They are after him up there.
I wouldn't be surprised to see them go after him for a high charge and then try to bargan it down or take it to trial and try to get him convicted on a lesser charge.
That is how the system works.
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September 13, 2014 at
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I've said since day one that I believe there is a GOOD chance (not 100% chance) that he will have charges pressed against him--likely involuntary manslaughter. That does NOT mean I think he is guilty--just that I think charges will likely be pressed.
Like 'racin buddy' said, that is the authorities going after him--not for money.
As far as a civil suit--going after money--99.99999% chance the family files that. Whether or not there is a criminal trial or not, this will very likely be settled out of court.
Does everyone understand that a civil trial can be handled out of court--with a checkbook?
And, a criminal trial cannot be settled with a checkbook and has nothing to do with how much money someone has.
Does everyone understand yet that a criminal trial taking place would have nothing to do with whether or not Tony TRIED to hit Kevin Ward? All they have to have is reasonable suspicion that Tony did something--anything--negligent. A burp of the throttle, a fish tail, a jerk of the wheel. It does not have to be a blatant attempt to strike him.
I think less than .1% of the population actually thinks Tony tried to hit him on purpose. That being said, I think a chance of criminal charges is still really good.
And, how long does it take to wrap up an investigation? Ray Rice and Adrian Peterson are just now being formally charged with incidents that took place technically in the winter and spring of the year. There is not a pressing time limit for this to happen. Even if he is "cleared" it could be opened again within reasonable time if new evidence emerges.
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Posted By: egras on September 13 2014 at 03:34:28 PM
I've said since day one that I believe there is a GOOD chance (not 100% chance) that he will have charges pressed against him--likely involuntary manslaughter. That does NOT mean I think he is guilty--just that I think charges will likely be pressed.
Like 'racin buddy' said, that is the authorities going after him--not for money.
As far as a civil suit--going after money--99.99999% chance the family files that. Whether or not there is a criminal trial or not, this will very likely be settled out of court.
Does everyone understand that a civil trial can be handled out of court--with a checkbook?
And, a criminal trial cannot be settled with a checkbook and has nothing to do with how much money someone has.
Does everyone understand yet that a criminal trial taking place would have nothing to do with whether or not Tony TRIED to hit Kevin Ward? All they have to have is reasonable suspicion that Tony did something--anything--negligent. A burp of the throttle, a fish tail, a jerk of the wheel. It does not have to be a blatant attempt to strike him.
I think less than .1% of the population actually thinks Tony tried to hit him on purpose. That being said, I think a chance of criminal charges is still really good.
And, how long does it take to wrap up an investigation? Ray Rice and Adrian Peterson are just now being formally charged with incidents that took place technically in the winter and spring of the year. There is not a pressing time limit for this to happen. Even if he is "cleared" it could be opened again within reasonable time if new evidence emerges.
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If no charges are filed I would think that would make a civil case harder to win. I didn't say impossible.
Still the family could file the civil case and settle out of court, or tony could offer just pay them.
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Posted By: egras on September 13 2014 at 03:34:28 PM
I've said since day one that I believe there is a GOOD chance (not 100% chance) that he will have charges pressed against him--likely involuntary manslaughter. That does NOT mean I think he is guilty--just that I think charges will likely be pressed.
Like 'racin buddy' said, that is the authorities going after him--not for money.
As far as a civil suit--going after money--99.99999% chance the family files that. Whether or not there is a criminal trial or not, this will very likely be settled out of court.
Does everyone understand that a civil trial can be handled out of court--with a checkbook?
And, a criminal trial cannot be settled with a checkbook and has nothing to do with how much money someone has.
Does everyone understand yet that a criminal trial taking place would have nothing to do with whether or not Tony TRIED to hit Kevin Ward? All they have to have is reasonable suspicion that Tony did something--anything--negligent. A burp of the throttle, a fish tail, a jerk of the wheel. It does not have to be a blatant attempt to strike him.
I think less than .1% of the population actually thinks Tony tried to hit him on purpose. That being said, I think a chance of criminal charges is still really good.
And, how long does it take to wrap up an investigation? Ray Rice and Adrian Peterson are just now being formally charged with incidents that took place technically in the winter and spring of the year. There is not a pressing time limit for this to happen. Even if he is "cleared" it could be opened again within reasonable time if new evidence emerges.
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They don't even have to go after him for a homicide, negligent or otherwise.
They can try to get him for reckless endangerment resulting in death. If they consider a motor vehichle a deadly weapon, which they most likely would, that is a felony.
The locals are pissed up there. All the local prosecutor has to do is charge Tony to keep the local people from claiming Tony got away with murder. Then it is in the hands of a jury and the authorities can blame it on them if Tony isn't convicted.
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