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Feese11
August 11, 2014 at 09:39:19 AM
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No contact made between Stewart and Ward cars so Tony heads down backstretch and reacts to yellow flag like rest of field with no way of knowing Ward made contact with wall and has come out of car looking to blame him as he drives down to turn one/two.   The car in front of Tony has the much better view of seeing Ward and barely misses him while Tony's vision is blocked from car he is following.   The facts are Ward came out of car hot headed over a racing accident where no ones to blame, just a racing deal.   He put himself in harms way and got too close to Tony's car and got hit.   Seeing drivers come out of cars and stand on track looking to point finger or throw helmet at who they believe wrecked them happens all the time.   Frankly I am surprised something unfortunate like this hasn't happened before.   Though cars are under caution they are still running at a fast speed.   Go stand out on highway while cars are going 65- 70 miles an hour and eventually the ending will be bad.    I feel sorry for Kevin Ward's family, friends and only hope they will see this unfortunate tragedy for what it is.   I also feel equally sorry for Tony Stewart and his family, friends as this will be a deep wound that never heals.  If this incident ends up with Tony choosing to quit running open wheel races on the side around his Nascar career then we all lose as open wheel race fans over this terrible tragedy.

 




RANG-GO
August 11, 2014 at 09:49:45 AM
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Here is a great rational answer to this tragic accident. This statement hits the nail right on the head. Just what I was thinking, THANK YOU.



Dryslick Willie
August 11, 2014 at 10:11:19 AM
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Here is a great rational answer to this tragic accident. This statement hits the nail right on the head. Just what I was thinking, THANK YOU.



+1




Dryslick Willie
August 11, 2014 at 10:13:36 AM
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IMO he was trying to accelerate out of the way before the dude did something to his car.   You can think whatever you want though.   Good post Feese11  



Dryslick Willie
August 11, 2014 at 10:19:30 AM
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One more thing here, didn't Kevin Ward have choices?   Sorry this happened, but if Kevin Ward had stayed at his car he would still be alive.   Just sayin'.....

 

 



captrat
August 11, 2014 at 10:20:05 AM
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Interesting that you can make such a definitive judgement about someone's actions from an amateur video taken under less than optimal lighting, great distance, and poor angle.  Would it not be better to wait until all the data is in before making such accusations?  Lastly, how is  one sitting either at home or in the stands able to know what is in a person's mind or explain their actions.  




Speed Racer 9
August 11, 2014 at 10:35:54 AM
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Pretty irrational comments coming from someone who has no idea what truly happened! Do you know that he hit the throttle to intentionally scare the kid? Did you think that maybe due to the stagger of these cars, the only way to swerve to the left and attempt to avoid him was by throttling the car?  Let the investigation and facts speak for themselves before passing judgement! 



revjimk
August 11, 2014 at 10:42:22 AM
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Posted By: Feese11 on August 11 2014 at 09:39:19 AM

No contact made between Stewart and Ward cars so Tony heads down backstretch and reacts to yellow flag like rest of field with no way of knowing Ward made contact with wall and has come out of car looking to blame him as he drives down to turn one/two.   The car in front of Tony has the much better view of seeing Ward and barely misses him while Tony's vision is blocked from car he is following.   The facts are Ward came out of car hot headed over a racing accident where no ones to blame, just a racing deal.   He put himself in harms way and got too close to Tony's car and got hit.   Seeing drivers come out of cars and stand on track looking to point finger or throw helmet at who they believe wrecked them happens all the time.   Frankly I am surprised something unfortunate like this hasn't happened before.   Though cars are under caution they are still running at a fast speed.   Go stand out on highway while cars are going 65- 70 miles an hour and eventually the ending will be bad.    I feel sorry for Kevin Ward's family, friends and only hope they will see this unfortunate tragedy for what it is.   I also feel equally sorry for Tony Stewart and his family, friends as this will be a deep wound that never heals.  If this incident ends up with Tony choosing to quit running open wheel races on the side around his Nascar career then we all lose as open wheel race fans over this terrible tragedy.

 



Agreed



scottb15
August 11, 2014 at 11:09:27 AM
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Posted By: Feese11 on August 11 2014 at 09:39:19 AM

No contact made between Stewart and Ward cars so Tony heads down backstretch and reacts to yellow flag like rest of field with no way of knowing Ward made contact with wall and has come out of car looking to blame him as he drives down to turn one/two.   The car in front of Tony has the much better view of seeing Ward and barely misses him while Tony's vision is blocked from car he is following.   The facts are Ward came out of car hot headed over a racing accident where no ones to blame, just a racing deal.   He put himself in harms way and got too close to Tony's car and got hit.   Seeing drivers come out of cars and stand on track looking to point finger or throw helmet at who they believe wrecked them happens all the time.   Frankly I am surprised something unfortunate like this hasn't happened before.   Though cars are under caution they are still running at a fast speed.   Go stand out on highway while cars are going 65- 70 miles an hour and eventually the ending will be bad.    I feel sorry for Kevin Ward's family, friends and only hope they will see this unfortunate tragedy for what it is.   I also feel equally sorry for Tony Stewart and his family, friends as this will be a deep wound that never heals.  If this incident ends up with Tony choosing to quit running open wheel races on the side around his Nascar career then we all lose as open wheel race fans over this terrible tragedy.

 



Totally agree 100%




RANG-GO
August 11, 2014 at 11:10:29 AM
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You SIR need to step away from the meds and get off your high horse.



MadManMadsen
August 11, 2014 at 11:15:09 AM
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Posted By: Feese11 on August 11 2014 at 09:39:19 AM

No contact made between Stewart and Ward cars so Tony heads down backstretch and reacts to yellow flag like rest of field with no way of knowing Ward made contact with wall and has come out of car looking to blame him as he drives down to turn one/two.   The car in front of Tony has the much better view of seeing Ward and barely misses him while Tony's vision is blocked from car he is following.   The facts are Ward came out of car hot headed over a racing accident where no ones to blame, just a racing deal.   He put himself in harms way and got too close to Tony's car and got hit.   Seeing drivers come out of cars and stand on track looking to point finger or throw helmet at who they believe wrecked them happens all the time.   Frankly I am surprised something unfortunate like this hasn't happened before.   Though cars are under caution they are still running at a fast speed.   Go stand out on highway while cars are going 65- 70 miles an hour and eventually the ending will be bad.    I feel sorry for Kevin Ward's family, friends and only hope they will see this unfortunate tragedy for what it is.   I also feel equally sorry for Tony Stewart and his family, friends as this will be a deep wound that never heals.  If this incident ends up with Tony choosing to quit running open wheel races on the side around his Nascar career then we all lose as open wheel race fans over this terrible tragedy.

 



+1 Well said.



lasoskifan
August 11, 2014 at 11:25:59 AM
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Posted By: Feese11 on August 11 2014 at 09:39:19 AM

No contact made between Stewart and Ward cars so Tony heads down backstretch and reacts to yellow flag like rest of field with no way of knowing Ward made contact with wall and has come out of car looking to blame him as he drives down to turn one/two.   The car in front of Tony has the much better view of seeing Ward and barely misses him while Tony's vision is blocked from car he is following.   The facts are Ward came out of car hot headed over a racing accident where no ones to blame, just a racing deal.   He put himself in harms way and got too close to Tony's car and got hit.   Seeing drivers come out of cars and stand on track looking to point finger or throw helmet at who they believe wrecked them happens all the time.   Frankly I am surprised something unfortunate like this hasn't happened before.   Though cars are under caution they are still running at a fast speed.   Go stand out on highway while cars are going 65- 70 miles an hour and eventually the ending will be bad.    I feel sorry for Kevin Ward's family, friends and only hope they will see this unfortunate tragedy for what it is.   I also feel equally sorry for Tony Stewart and his family, friends as this will be a deep wound that never heals.  If this incident ends up with Tony choosing to quit running open wheel races on the side around his Nascar career then we all lose as open wheel race fans over this terrible tragedy.

 




Well-stated.




Kool Trikes
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August 11, 2014 at 11:50:20 AM
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One thing no one has yet said about this brake verses gas thing. A sprint car driver will never hit the brake in a situation lier this. You accelerate to get away because if you stop you go to the back....Simple as that.

I feel the acceleration was after contact not before. How many times have you seen a sprinter gas it to get away?  I'm assuming he felt the impact maybe not even knowing what it was. The car snapped to the right from the impact and he gassed it. Right or wrong in a sprint car it is a natural reaction.

 


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johnnynott
August 11, 2014 at 11:59:53 AM
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I have read, and heard statements that Stewarts care and Wards cars did touch on the front stretch before the Ward car got into the wall, they stated that Stewart seemed to "pinch Ward into the front stretch wall, cutting the RR tire". However this part we do not see. My take on this is indeed a very tragic racing accident.



StaggerLee
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August 11, 2014 at 12:02:57 PM
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If Stewart attempted to "roost" ward, why dont his tires spin when you hear the engine rev? My perception of the video is ward got hit by the wing first, then got knocked down and hit by the right rear, the contact with the right rear is what made the rear of stewarts car move to the left not the throttle.

to Still Lookin, what would you say if the roles were reversed and hot headed Tony was the one who took 5 steps down the track and got run over? Would you be blaming the other driver? doubt it.




sonoranrat
August 11, 2014 at 12:07:40 PM
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We all can contemplate and state all the suppositions we desire, however the sad fact remains that a young man lost his life without need or justification.  Another man must live the remainder of his life, knowing he caused the death of another human.  We will know more in a few months, when an overly eager news orgnization sues for the release of all documentation regarding the event.  Even then, we will question the intent of actions on all sides.  We will probably never be satisfied as a society with the findings.   Regardless, a young man is no longer with us. 



Stealth87
August 11, 2014 at 12:49:53 PM
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I am completely shocked that no one has mentioned that the absolute WORST place to be on a track when winged cars are moving is the right front of the cars. There is little to no vision (a true blind spot) from the cockpit. Many things can happen under caution (checking wing placement etc). My feeling is that it is very very possible Tony never even saw Kevin on the track. Especially with the poor lighting and color of Kevin's racing suit/helmet. This is truly a tragic accident. I guarantee if the injuries would not have been life threatening Tony would have been the first person to visit Kevin in the hospital. If this would have happened at a normal weekly short track event, it is very possible we would have never even heard about it. My deepest sympathies and condolences go out to the Ward family as well as his friends and anyone that had to witness this terrible event. Thoughts and prayers are also with them as well as Tony and his family and friends. 


Real race cars don't have fenders...

PatMurray91
August 11, 2014 at 01:06:38 PM
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Posted By: Feese11 on August 11 2014 at 09:39:19 AM

No contact made between Stewart and Ward cars so Tony heads down backstretch and reacts to yellow flag like rest of field with no way of knowing Ward made contact with wall and has come out of car looking to blame him as he drives down to turn one/two.   The car in front of Tony has the much better view of seeing Ward and barely misses him while Tony's vision is blocked from car he is following.   The facts are Ward came out of car hot headed over a racing accident where no ones to blame, just a racing deal.   He put himself in harms way and got too close to Tony's car and got hit.   Seeing drivers come out of cars and stand on track looking to point finger or throw helmet at who they believe wrecked them happens all the time.   Frankly I am surprised something unfortunate like this hasn't happened before.   Though cars are under caution they are still running at a fast speed.   Go stand out on highway while cars are going 65- 70 miles an hour and eventually the ending will be bad.    I feel sorry for Kevin Ward's family, friends and only hope they will see this unfortunate tragedy for what it is.   I also feel equally sorry for Tony Stewart and his family, friends as this will be a deep wound that never heals.  If this incident ends up with Tony choosing to quit running open wheel races on the side around his Nascar career then we all lose as open wheel race fans over this terrible tragedy.

 




Feese11 I agree with you 100%. If Kevin had stayed in his car or if someone else had hit him we would not be talking about this. Still Lookin is trying to stir up trouble and he is showing everyone how ignorant he is!!




jknxville
August 11, 2014 at 01:29:22 PM
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i dont post alot, but after reading these posts, i felt maybe a little compassion is needed here, the racing community has  lost another young man, we, as the racing community, and family, should put our efforts into prayers and thoughts, for both familys, and friends involved in  this tragic accident, and pray, that this never happens again, my prayers, and thoughts are with both familys, and friends involved, i hope the rest of you will follow



linbob
August 11, 2014 at 03:20:39 PM
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Posted By: Feese11 on August 11 2014 at 09:39:19 AM

No contact made between Stewart and Ward cars so Tony heads down backstretch and reacts to yellow flag like rest of field with no way of knowing Ward made contact with wall and has come out of car looking to blame him as he drives down to turn one/two.   The car in front of Tony has the much better view of seeing Ward and barely misses him while Tony's vision is blocked from car he is following.   The facts are Ward came out of car hot headed over a racing accident where no ones to blame, just a racing deal.   He put himself in harms way and got too close to Tony's car and got hit.   Seeing drivers come out of cars and stand on track looking to point finger or throw helmet at who they believe wrecked them happens all the time.   Frankly I am surprised something unfortunate like this hasn't happened before.   Though cars are under caution they are still running at a fast speed.   Go stand out on highway while cars are going 65- 70 miles an hour and eventually the ending will be bad.    I feel sorry for Kevin Ward's family, friends and only hope they will see this unfortunate tragedy for what it is.   I also feel equally sorry for Tony Stewart and his family, friends as this will be a deep wound that never heals.  If this incident ends up with Tony choosing to quit running open wheel races on the side around his Nascar career then we all lose as open wheel race fans over this terrible tragedy.

 



The right side wing side board hangs down and blocks vision,  your helmet blocks vision to the side, and the containment seats block vision to the side.  Get in a sprintcar, strap in with helmet on and you will see what I mean.  You can look forward and to the left pretty good, but looking to right is difficult.





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