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lynnthurmanphotos
June 02, 2014 at 11:41:48 AM
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This message was edited on June 02, 2014 at 11:59:25 AM by lynnthurmanphotos

July 25-26. $1,500 to win Friday night and $5,000 to win Saturday night, Amarillo, Texas. www.route66motorspeedway.com




lynnthurmanphotos
June 09, 2014 at 04:42:10 PM
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July 25-26. $1,500 to win Friday night and $5,000 to win Saturday night, Amarillo, Texas. www.route66motorspeedway.com



Pre-enter and reserve your car number. For more info call Nathan Bichsel: 806-681-0936.



trecraft
June 09, 2014 at 11:33:20 PM
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What is the tire rule?




lynnthurmanphotos
June 16, 2014 at 04:45:00 PM
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Ascs rules: Medium or Hard.

Race Saver Rules are legal to run.

North Amarillo Auto Parts has put up a $500 bonus for anyone that can win both nights.



lynnthurmanphotos
June 17, 2014 at 03:37:41 PM
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Go to www.route66motorspeedway.com and download your entry for.



lynnthurmanphotos
June 23, 2014 at 08:54:56 PM
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Reserve your car # by getting your entry in early.




lynnthurmanphotos
June 25, 2014 at 06:28:42 PM
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The Big Show is just 4 weeks away don't wait until the last minute to register. Go to www.route66motorspeedway.com and download the entry form today. For more information contact: Nathan Bichsel 806-681-0936  or  Larry Roberts 806-336-0767.



lynnthurmanphotos
July 02, 2014 at 07:08:22 PM
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23 days until the big show, get your entries in and get your number reserved.



trecraft
July 02, 2014 at 10:52:12 PM
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  305's at Susquehanna this Thursday, 305's at Lincoln this Saturday and 305's at Selinsgrove this Sunday.  Texas is just too far.  And you save the $150 entry fee. 




csracing72c
July 03, 2014 at 08:39:20 AM
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$150 entry fee is total bullshit!



vande77
July 03, 2014 at 12:49:00 PM
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Posted By: csracing72c on July 03 2014 at 08:39:20 AM

$150 entry fee is total bullshit!



depends on what they get for that $150 IMO.

Knoxville Nationals (and 360 Nationals, and all their other major events) have entry fees.

The difference is that if you pre-enter before the deadline, you basically get all your $$ back and more in reduced pit pass costs for the owner (free) and 6 team members ($30 per night instead of $50 without pre-entry), that's $680 in Free and reduced pit passes over full price by not pre-entering.  - Let's say the owner and all (6) pit passes are used all week, the cost would be $100 entry + $0 for the owner + $120 per person in the pits (maximum of (6)) = $820 for the 4 days.  Now, no pre-entry before the deadline = $100 entry fee + $200 for the owner + $200 per person entering the pits = $1500 (provided you have (6) people (driver, wife/girlfriend, crew, sponsors).  You have to have 4 less people go in the pits to be at the same $$$ amount spent.

So, if they are doing something similar, it makes sense to charge and entry fee (you know how many cars will be there, yet the teams don't actually fork over more $$$ than they would be showing up at the gate, they actually fork over LESS.

 



Sprinter 79
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July 03, 2014 at 02:11:35 PM
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What is the point? If you are going to pay that kind of money, why not just make it a professional show? Paying $5,000 to win a 305 show will do 2 things, it will put professional drivers in the 305's, which is not necessary, and it will ask the teams that the 305 class was designed to support to fork over tons of money that could be used to race at more than one show. I just do not understand this desire to connect 305's, which is supposed to be a sportsman form of Sprint Car Racing, to these high purses.  Do we want the 305's to become the next ASCS 360's, because that is the direciton in which we are headed. Then what, 4.3L v-6's??????????????????

 

It is not unlike some promoter posting a $10,000 to win purse for Briggs & Stratton dirt oval Go Karts. It is ludicrous and it defeats the purpose of the class.  Just an FYI, I have a 305 car and there is no way that I would enter a race that paid this kind of money with that car, for the very reasons that I posted. 


Never hit stationary objects!


vande77
July 03, 2014 at 03:33:07 PM
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Posted By: Sprinter 79 on July 03 2014 at 02:11:35 PM

What is the point? If you are going to pay that kind of money, why not just make it a professional show? Paying $5,000 to win a 305 show will do 2 things, it will put professional drivers in the 305's, which is not necessary, and it will ask the teams that the 305 class was designed to support to fork over tons of money that could be used to race at more than one show. I just do not understand this desire to connect 305's, which is supposed to be a sportsman form of Sprint Car Racing, to these high purses.  Do we want the 305's to become the next ASCS 360's, because that is the direciton in which we are headed. Then what, 4.3L v-6's??????????????????

 

It is not unlike some promoter posting a $10,000 to win purse for Briggs & Stratton dirt oval Go Karts. It is ludicrous and it defeats the purpose of the class.  Just an FYI, I have a 305 car and there is no way that I would enter a race that paid this kind of money with that car, for the very reasons that I posted. 




Hate to say this, but there already are "professional quality" drivers in the 305's and 360's and racing 410's, but that hold a regular job and do this for fun and not for the $$$.

 

Do I think $5000 to win 305's seems a little crazy, yes, but the flip side of that is you go to the pits after the races and listen to 305 and 360 drivers complain about the purses not being high enough for what they are spending to be "competitive".

Not sure what the answer is, but unless they have rules in place that you had to run a certain % of your races in that class all year long, races are open for all that show up.



Sprinter 79
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July 03, 2014 at 05:20:59 PM
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Hate to say this, but there already are "professional quality" drivers in the 305's and 360's and racing 410's, but that hold a regular job and do this for fun and not for the $$$.

 

Do I think $5000 to win 305's seems a little crazy, yes, but the flip side of that is you go to the pits after the races and listen to 305 and 360 drivers complain about the purses not being high enough for what they are spending to be "competitive".

Not sure what the answer is, but unless they have rules in place that you had to run a certain % of your races in that class all year long, races are open for all that show up.



I agree that some of the purses are too low, but $5,000 is ridiculous. There are also not really that many professional quality drivers behind the wheel of 305 cars. Sure, there are a few, but not that many and VERY few who have a nationally recognized names, like Swindel. 

 

As far as spending money to be competitive, that is a rule book and tech problem. Frankly given the money that some teams are spending they ought to be moving up as well, but that is a whole other issue all together.

 

I just think that races with payout of this caliber do more harm to the class than they do the other way around.

 

Maybe a flat rate payout to cover weekly expense and trophies would go a long way towards breaking the back of the spending monkey.  Something needs to be done, otherwise we will see the same thing happening with the 305 that we see with the 360's. It is already heading that way.


Never hit stationary objects!

lynnthurmanphotos
July 10, 2014 at 11:45:18 PM
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2 weeks until the Big show, early entry ends tomorrow 7-11-14.




lynnthurmanphotos
July 17, 2014 at 12:44:54 PM
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8 days until the Big Show.



Desflur
July 17, 2014 at 01:58:06 PM
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Posted By: Sprinter 79 on July 03 2014 at 02:11:35 PM

What is the point? If you are going to pay that kind of money, why not just make it a professional show? Paying $5,000 to win a 305 show will do 2 things, it will put professional drivers in the 305's, which is not necessary, and it will ask the teams that the 305 class was designed to support to fork over tons of money that could be used to race at more than one show. I just do not understand this desire to connect 305's, which is supposed to be a sportsman form of Sprint Car Racing, to these high purses.  Do we want the 305's to become the next ASCS 360's, because that is the direciton in which we are headed. Then what, 4.3L v-6's??????????????????

 

It is not unlike some promoter posting a $10,000 to win purse for Briggs & Stratton dirt oval Go Karts. It is ludicrous and it defeats the purpose of the class.  Just an FYI, I have a 305 car and there is no way that I would enter a race that paid this kind of money with that car, for the very reasons that I posted. 



Total agree. Friday night 13-20 place not worth getting on the track . Not what 305 class was started for. 



cajunis#1
July 17, 2014 at 02:55:05 PM
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It's 305's so who really gives a shit? 


305's are the herpes of sprint cars


trecraft
July 17, 2014 at 04:03:34 PM
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Posted By: Sprinter 79 on July 03 2014 at 05:20:59 PM

I agree that some of the purses are too low, but $5,000 is ridiculous. There are also not really that many professional quality drivers behind the wheel of 305 cars. Sure, there are a few, but not that many and VERY few who have a nationally recognized names, like Swindel. 

 

As far as spending money to be competitive, that is a rule book and tech problem. Frankly given the money that some teams are spending they ought to be moving up as well, but that is a whole other issue all together.

 

I just think that races with payout of this caliber do more harm to the class than they do the other way around.

 

Maybe a flat rate payout to cover weekly expense and trophies would go a long way towards breaking the back of the spending monkey.  Something needs to be done, otherwise we will see the same thing happening with the 305 that we see with the 360's. It is already heading that way.



You just think that races with payout of this caliber do more harm to the class than they do the other way around.  How  right you are.



Big Slim
July 17, 2014 at 04:05:19 PM
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What rules do they run under?





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