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I love.......Time trials.........Track prep that begins for the next week, immediately after this weeks program......Wing and Nonwing Sprint Cars..... But I can't underatand why Sprint Car Racing is the only sport that handicaps and penalizes the fastest car/driver.....

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What? All of the stick and ball pro sports "penalize" success. The best teams draft last the following year and the horrible non-achievers draft first. 

This is the best argument for starting all WoO heat races straight up by time...an dinishing position after test...no gimmick inverts / pill draw for the dash.

may I suggest one lap TTs As well?

Lincoln 1845 ft/.35 mile T1=118MPH 
Eldora 2287 ft/.43mile T3=135MPH
Port 2716 ft/.51 mile T3=TBD
Grove 2792 ft/.53 mile T3=135MPH
Selinsgrove 2847 ft/.54 mile T1=136MPH
"I didn't move to PA from El Paso in search of better 
weather." Van May

Invert the heats whatever, make the fast guy earn it I guess

start dash straight up no draw and make it 8 laps and give guys who didn't time as good a chance to move up..... Don't hand them the damn pole

IF I were in charge of the format, we'd start the heats straight up by times, with the top 2 finishers in the heats making the dash (6 car dash in a 3 heat program, 8 car dash with 4 heats, etc,).   Heat race winners would start in front of second place finishers.  A-main line up (behind the dash cars) would be based on a combination of heat race finishes & times.  For example: 3rd place heat finishers start in front of 4th place heat finishers, with 3rd place finishers aligned by time.  B-main cars would tag the field.  Again. . . IF it were up to me.  

woo-zers, a dying breed!!  $50 dollar plus tickets, large sanction fees & yada yada yada...

Ascot was the greatest of all time..

West Capital wasn't half bad either..

Life is good...

Not sure how much tickets were at either Charlotte or Putnamville.  My pit pass at Putnamville was $30.  I DO know that the winner's purse at Charlotte was nearly 5 times what the winner at Putnamville received.  (Putnamville $2500, Charlotte $12,000).   Also for comparison purposes, 10th place at Charlotte paid $2100.  And yes, there was an MSCS provisional offered at Putnamville.  

Not a big fan of the passing points thing.  I've attended a few ASCS National events, and the thing I noticed is that on a narrow heat race track, the regulars trying to come through the pack hit everything in sight.  I'm not a big fan of sprint car demo derby's.  I guess fans might want to see that, but those same fans will bitch when only 15 cars show up for a race.  For a normal working guy, getting run over and wadding up a wing equals missed races while we save up for a new wing.  

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Ill make this personal opinion of nonwing fans plublic,  many of them, not all of them,  "have a beef with winged cars" im not sure why, i respect nonwing drivers, thier cars handel completly different than a winged car, AND non wing is something that was around prior to drivers getting crafty with sideboards and downforce on light light cars, Im white, Norwiegen, and a Lutheran, that doesnt mean I think you should be too.nor that im better than you,   take a bowl of cheerios, take a scoop and describe the flavor, take a bowl of fruit loops and repeat the process,   life is best when experianced all different flavors, some are preferred over others,   same goes for TT,PP, ect, its all there to try make a better show,  like i said earlier, Attend NHRA if you love heads up qualification/terminaion, i like it, but thats a different taste at a different day...

Posted By: BIGFISH on May 25 2014 at 12:30:02 AM  < at 65... Lets see. 25 years ago I was 41 and I've been around non wing stuff regularly since I was a baby. I have no idea how many non wing races I've been to, but I've seen more than a few laps run without a left front wheel.    I get what you're trying to say about how the front row is the same as far as producing winners no matter if it's a winged race or a traditional one, but it's not, nor is there the same amount of side by side racing in both types of cars.

I like both types of racing and I still say take the damn wings off. Also Kenny you still can't park that jeep right.

We need more sprint car racing at our home track.

Everybody should adopt the Trophy cup format on a weekly basis. Sure would make my life very happy.

We need more sprint car racing at our home track.

+2 I think the invert was good when there was more parity in the cars but it is outdated now that they are so equal. IMO the B-main should be lined up by heat race finish too instead of TT. I liked it when the dash drivers each drew for position instead of an invert. I know that brings luck of the drfaw back into it, but it created a little bit of drama and mixed things up a bit to make it more interesting.

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 saw some damn good winged racing at Skagit in the early eighty's when I was on a long long fishing trip up in the Pacific northwest, but the track was heavy and the wings were smaller and so were the tires... When I arrived back at Manzy in 86, the Western was a 3 day show with the non winged guy's putting on a far superior show on Friday night. The winged cars by that time were getting locked down so tight, Kinser and some of the others were running that bad ass 1/2 mile without lifting! Fast sure, but being in none winged country and with everyone seeing that without question the non wing part of the Western was much better, we bitched at Keith without mercy. Keith Hall finally made it a all non wing show and that's how it stayed until Mel Martin sold the track out the back door.

 Unhook em!

Half the lies they tell about me aren't true. 

"Variety is the spice of life"

I like 'em both, but with my mere 4 yrs. experience with this stuff, I think I prefer wingless on a bullring.

Not a big fan of TT, other than to learn who's driving what....

The Chilibowl format is the best format in short track racing. from the time you unload to the time you put it away you have to race your ass off for every available position. The cream always seem to race there way to the top. 

Tim Clauson 

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Most sprint car fans are sprint car fans.

Most sprint car fans fall into that category, as compared to being inflexible to the point of only believing that there is just one specific genre that is acceptable within the sport.

It’s important to not let the frenetic comments and beliefs of the vocal few get under your skin.

Case in point. Recently I had a track racing topic (PR) on FB that had 4,700 readers with lots of replies. There were 3 people that were complaining throughout the post. However, the other 4,697 weren’t complaining and many had positive responses. In the racing world, those are pretty good odds.

What makes racing exciting is its unexpected twists and turns and the literally thousands of possible variables that can affect the outcome of a race.

And that means there’s always going to be that underlying current of uncertainty in the outcome, and an inherent level of controversy, or even animosity, in some cases.

If it wasn’t that way, then it would basically be the equivalent of a stick and ball sport where the competitor hits the ball, catches the ball or missed the ball.

For those looking for that sort of ‘thrill’, more power to them. Obviously there is a lot of skill and precision involved and I'm using the sort of oversimplification that a lot of non-racing fans say, like "cars just going around in circles." Failing to observe skills involved in any sport would be ignorant, in the true definition of the word.

However, I prefer this particular sport…which requires more than just one ball to compete.

…regardless of what combination or permutation of engine size, wing – or lack thereof are involved.

To me, Sprint Car races and Blowjobs have a lot in common.  .  The worst one I ever had was still pretty good and I'm always going to keep going back for more.  

"its like sex and cold pizza, even if its bad you still want it "       Quote   -    I dont recall..