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Again it is obvious  , by the results   over the   weekend  that  the   real racing  is   wingless   racing  just   about anywhere . Just   read   the results  as to  where  they started .  While  I  respect   all  drivers and sanctioning  bodies  , the winged groups   just won't tweak   there  rules  to provide  better  racing for  you the fans . I encourage  you to support  all  local racing , but take  in  a  wingless   race  when you  can .

A man after my own heart!   After watching both nights of the WoO show at Devils Bowl, I would be hard pressed to disagree.    The heat races sucked on both nights, but especially on Friday.   ASCS events typically are the same way.   When the track is tacky and fast, the heat races are like watching a freight train.   You might see some passing on the first lap, but you could probably throw the checker at the 2nd lap and your results wouldn't be different.     I wish there was a way to keep the safety factor of the wing but take the downforce element out of it and let the drivers drive.  The racing would be better and the motors would last longer.    I would add that the best racing I've seen at the Bowl was during the USAC vs. CRA wingless shows they used to have back in the eighties. 

 I love sprint car racing of any kind including midgets.The area I am from is mainly winged cars but I will take in a USAC show every now and then and I really enjoy it.There is a new series farily close called the BOSS series that I hear is providing some great racing.I agree on the some of the winged racing becoming boring.I always thought that if the wings were some what smaller if that would make the racing better.It would take away some if the down force and still have the safety aspect.

I think they are both better on tracks smaller than a half-mile.

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USAC at Eldora last night was a no-passing dustbowl. I love both types of cars, nonwing on a small bullring is my favorite.

Both types can have great races....and clunkers too, like I saw at Eldora last night. That said,  to put a nonwing car inches from the wall at Eldora at full speed takes incredible talent, and major-size b_lls!

+1 The 3/8th mile and smaller bull rings put on great shows. I prefer wingless but I like them all. But if I had my choice I will take a large car count midget race on a 1/4 mile track. They make me happy. I know ventura is smaller than a 1/4 but can we have Thunder Back.

We need more sprint car racing at our home track.

Thanks   fans , all  these   comments are  true. At   Eldora   the surface   is really never great  and with all   horse  power tracks  that  tend to get strung out  .  But   the  World  Racing group  doesn't want to tweak   the rules to make closer racing even though they have made  some changes   but not enough . They  have not  proved to me  that they really care about you the fans , just   your money . The   high  speed  and drivers  are the  drawing card for most fans  ,not the actual racing . But as long as   the crowds come they won't tweak the  so-called   rules . They   just play  on your loyalty  as  we love all  racing  and they know we will come. It   is time all  tracks reward   fans for their   support ,  just like they  do the drivers , lap money , purses , contingency awards  or other  ways  the teams  are   lured to high purse races .

Thanks Willie , thats true , its  a   new type  of fan that is supporting   the winged  WoO ,BECAUSE alot of fans haven't   seen the racing  of years gone by or even  the non-winged. If  the  WRG cared about fans they would put USAC on   there  winter  racing  card  at VOLUSIA , BUT THEY KNOW  USAC or non-wing   may put on a  better show , but  then its a  fast  1/2 mile. They   don't  put them in at  Lernerville any longer  , and I know there   are alot of wingless fans   in that area . Sharon would be  a  good track for  USAC ,but there  budget  doesn't  allow them . The sad  part  is USAC could   get more race  dates  during   Eastern  swing  in PA --NY -AND  NJ  but  schedule won't allow  , but then  there  are new groups that  popping  up  in Missouri, Canada , Ohio and other places , so that would  show  there  is  a  place  for more non-wing racing.

I'll partake in the wingless super sportsman at the 1/4 mile track, Path Valley this Friday...They are running against the Lucas Oil late models just 45 minutes south in Hagerstown...Williams Grove was never an option...

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