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I know some of you don't care much for NASCAR, and I will get the inevitable "NASCRAP" response, but for those that saw the announcement today.....what do you think of the new points system, and also the new qualifying format?

Personally, I like both.  I might actually watch a race or two this year past Daytona.

They needed to do something.  This may generate some interest anyway.

The GOOD- More cars in chase, more sponsor exposure and more of a focus on winning. tHE BIGGEST pLUS i SEE HERE Is the possibility of a lesser funded team breaking into the chase. These teams have been to pick up wins at restrictor plate races and the new system all but locks you in with a win. the exposure and money to be made for a team that could crack the chase could be huge in closing the gap financially a little bit.

The BAD- Guys will be going for wins over consistantcy. I see more wrecks, more fights and more negativity coming from this. They thought they had a mess with the guys wrecking on purpose and making deals and stuff last year, just wait until week 10 when it's down to 4 cars and it's winner take all. Guys will be doing whatever it takes to make sure they are first.

Personally, I say the chase is a joke, has always been a joke and they need to go back to the old way. The idea that 20 races mean notjhing after 20 is stupid to me and putting together a solid season should be rewarded over being able to make it through after a few decent showings is just not fair. And it isolates all the guys who don't make it to basicly nothing after the chase starts. Should go back to the old syatem and keep the points the way it is.

I think NASCAR is hoping your "BAD" section is the end result!!  At least maybe now someone won't just settle for a top-5 or top-10 finish if they think they may have a chance for the win-and-in!!

Could be interesting at least!

I do like the idea of more drivers in the Chase and the elimination. However, I don't like a 36 race season coming down to one race. Not when you have 39 other competitors racing on the same track. Way too much pressure for crew members who in reality probably only get paid maybe $75,000 tops?

If you thought the last lap at Talladega was crazy, wait til this year with it being the final race in the "contender" portion of the chase.

I'm all for small teams making the chase but I really hope no start and park teams win a miracle at plate track then proceed to start and park 10 of the next 15 races to save funds for the final 10.

-Austin Rankin

Do away with the Chase. Go back to the old days. I refuse to watch on TV today. The old ways and drivers have at it.

nascar is getting desperate trying to make their product interesting.

Still love husets 

I am all for win it or winch it on the trailer, but the dam chase does not work for me, t is a season champions not just last few races, but nascar has lost most everything that is real racing anyway. if they want to break the year into 2 parts then just do it, regular season, then tournement season, bah humbug watch it less every year

I Iike it, definitely feels more playoff-like to me. The old chase was pretty boring, this one may be more exciting. Not really a NASCAR fan at all, but watch it in the summer when there is nothing on, and never watch when football starts. This may change that a bit.

OK who is going to be the first one to show who would have won the 2013 championship under 2014 points???

I like the qualifying format now but I have always hated the chase. To me a champion is the driver/team that has had the best overall finish over the course of the year, not necessarily the most wins. To me who ever scores the most points over the course of the year should be the champion. Nascar tries too much to be like football baseball and basketball with the playoff format. The difference in racing though is that unlike other sports where you compete against 1 opponent, you compete against all opponents at the same time every week. No need for a playoff format when you prove yourself each week.

I will be....it was stated on Twitter and by the Sirius NASCAR channel that Dale Jr would have been champion last season

when the green flag drops, the bullshit stops!

 i doubt a start and park team would be eligible for the chase. a team has to be in the top 30 in points and have attempted to qualify for every event.

i'm waiting for a driver who has 10 or so wins in  the regular season making the chase and then having three bad races and being out at the first cut.

or someone winning the most races and getting beat at the last event.

then how will that winning means the most thing work out?

this new format has a lot of room for disaster.

even in the past chase format teams were basically eliminated as the events went on because they natually fell out of contention.

to indy and beyond!!

100% correct!!!

NASCAR is gasping for breath trying to bring fans back.  Just like one of their other moves earlier in the Winter about cutting seating capacity at many of the tracks. That move was made for one reason and one reason only. It was made because sponsors don't like looking at the grandstands full of empty seats at races they are sponsoring.

Until Brian France, Mike Helton and Ryan Pemberton are gone NASCAR will continue to go down hill......

What did the article say?  This is the fourth change to the chase?  ELIMINATE IT totally.  I have hated the chase since it was brought in.  It will be interesting to see how it plays out, but in my opinion, the guy with the most points at the end of the year, whether he won 1 race, or 10 races, should be the champ. Good post

They are turning the chase into a reality show - "you, dale jr, have been voted out of the chase. Buh bye." the chase is a farce because they have most of the field running around in circles merely for the advertising parade. If the cars are no longer in the points race, they should be racing in a separate consolation race. But that wont keep the also-ran cars sponsors happy, or the tv producers, so they throw irrelevent cars on the same track as the championship hopeful cars. Hence nascar is seen not as a racing series by potential fans, but rather an advertising showcase and sponsor driven sham pretending to be a premier racing series. 

These changes will kill drivers and the product will still be incredibly irrelevent. The only good racing on fox sports is during the nascar off season. If nascar wants to become relevent, they need to switch to four wheel drive, turbocharged, compact import cars and ditch the boring superspeedways.

Ok so this would be my plea to nascar. I'm probably wrong but here's my idea...Why not do each race with a setup comparable to the chili bowl setup. 50 Lap Qualifying heats based on passing points, then  50 lapQualifying heats into mains?  The Amain could be lets say 100 laps? Then do away w/ the "chase" and do cup standings based on total amount of wins. Then use points as a tiebreaker. Much less complicated and it would get the same result. Base the champion on the whole season but by the guy who wins the most!! That's what racing is fellas...the reason it started was to see who had the fastest car not the most consistent finisher. I love racing but admit I can't watch a 3-4 hour nascar race. If they broke it up like listed above it would be much more watchable. Just my .02 

The format will not make the racing any better so the end result is the same, it will suck.  They need to fix the car so there is actually racing happening on the track rather than pit strategy determining the outcome of the event.  They just do not get it.

I have a splendid idea for bringing fans back.  Get rid of cars that can't pass each other!   Before these last two total failures (COT and Gen whatever the f%ck) the cars could actually catch up to each other and the faster car could make a pass.  Makes it more interesting.  Right now, you have a 500 mile long race where the only place anyone can pass is the 1st lap of the restart.  A joke!  Sometimes trying to cut costs, (which was the reason for going to these two types of cars) costs you money! 

Agreed. That's why I think they should do the "heats concept" Then have a 100 lap feature with 2 scheduled pit stops

I would love to see a dirt track format with heats & such, but NASCAR would never do that. Can you imagine Jimmy wrecking in a heat & not making an A main type race? I think this is a panic move by them & I don't think it will last more than a year or two.