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Topic: If Daryn Pittman Finishes 8th or better in FINAL 3 Races HES THE CHAMPION Email this topic to a friend | Subscribe to this TopicReport this Topic to Moderator
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EZ2BME
October 09, 2013 at 12:38:04 PM
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This message was edited on October 09, 2013 at 12:45:22 PM by EZ2BME

If Daryn Pittman Finishes 8th or Better in Final 3 Races THE CHAMPONSHIP IS HIS
Donny Schatz REALLY NEEDS To WIN TIME TRIALS these next 3 Races & get the 15 Points awarded For Time Trials 

World of Outlaws Sprint Car Series Championship Point System
1. 150 
2. 146 -4
3. 144 -6
4. 142 - 8
5. 140 -10
6. 138 -12
7. 136 -14
8. 134 -16
9. 132 -18
10. 130 -20
11. 128
12. 126
13. 124
14. 122
15. 120 -30
16. 118
17. 116
18. 114
19. 112
20. 110 -40
21. 108
22. 106
23. 104
24. 102 -48

Qualifying Points
1. 5
2. 4
3. 3
4. 2
5. 1
B-main or below finishers receive 75 points




brettco
October 09, 2013 at 03:02:07 PM
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430



WoOSprint514
October 09, 2013 at 06:00:12 PM
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Anybody but Schatz or Slammy.





opnwhlr
October 09, 2013 at 06:55:41 PM
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ABS - Anyone but Schatz!


 
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dirtraceorbust
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October 10, 2013 at 09:04:15 AM
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WoO championship most likely for Pittman but 410 driver of the year, highly unlikely.  As of now Schatz has 21 wins and Pittman 8, Schatz has one less top ten (57 to 58) and one less top 5 (44 to 43) for the year, don't see how any fair minded writer could give it to the WoO champ comparing those two.  Maybe there is someone in USAC or somewhere that had a fantastic year that won a title--NOT gonna happen me thinks. 

To take it even further, say the WoO champ wins 4 races but has just unbelievable luck.  A guy wins 25 or maybe 27 races and has same top tens and top fives but has terrible luck.  Motors blow, lappers get in the way and all of a sudden spin out in front of the big 25 race winner causing lots of DNFs or last place finishes, breaks wrist and misses two races, etc..  Who is the best driver of the year?  Don't think Pittman will win that driver of the year award but bottom line---pays no money that I know of at least. 


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Oppermanfan
October 10, 2013 at 12:09:11 PM
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Looking at the stats it is hard to believe that Pittman can win this. It is pretty impressive he has held the lead for this long. Did he lead in points from start to finish? I know he had a good Florida run to start the season. I guess it is just like Saldana getting 20 a couple years ago and not winning the title. Very interesting!




opnwhlr
October 10, 2013 at 12:24:38 PM
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I do believe Pittman has led from the get go.  Hard to do in this series.  My hat is off to him.  Just hope he can hold on to the end.


 
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egras
October 10, 2013 at 12:27:47 PM
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WoO championship most likely for Pittman but 410 driver of the year, highly unlikely.  As of now Schatz has 21 wins and Pittman 8, Schatz has one less top ten (57 to 58) and one less top 5 (44 to 43) for the year, don't see how any fair minded writer could give it to the WoO champ comparing those two.  Maybe there is someone in USAC or somewhere that had a fantastic year that won a title--NOT gonna happen me thinks. 

To take it even further, say the WoO champ wins 4 races but has just unbelievable luck.  A guy wins 25 or maybe 27 races and has same top tens and top fives but has terrible luck.  Motors blow, lappers get in the way and all of a sudden spin out in front of the big 25 race winner causing lots of DNFs or last place finishes, breaks wrist and misses two races, etc..  Who is the best driver of the year?  Don't think Pittman will win that driver of the year award but bottom line---pays no money that I know of at least. 



I just think this whole argument is stupid.  They all knew how the points were awarded at the start of the season.  No one changed them mid-season to make them unfair.  Pittman will likely be the champ and he deserves to be--because that is how the points worked out.  Schatz had a dismal start to the year and even he will admit that.  You aren't going to win a points championship in racing unless you start and finish the year.  Oh wait, unless you want them to start a chase for the cup..????

Didn't think so. 



OKRACERS
October 10, 2013 at 02:18:25 PM
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does thursday at charlotte not count they say if he wins next 3 races  rolling wheels friday &saturday at charlotte




J & J Shaver
October 10, 2013 at 03:56:41 PM
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Thursday is just time trials



sprint 82
October 10, 2013 at 03:58:29 PM
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No one but Donny deserves to win the title!

Hat trick for the year.

Knoville, most wins, and WoW championship.


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sprint 82
October 10, 2013 at 06:26:20 PM
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No one but Donny deserves to win the title!

Hat trick for the year.

Knoville, most wins, and WoW championship.




WoO that is.


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brettco
October 10, 2013 at 06:53:20 PM
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Didn't Kinseth do this and create the CHASE?



egras
October 11, 2013 at 09:43:53 AM
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Didn't Kinseth do this and create the CHASE?



No--the death of Earnhardt made the Chase.  When Nascar lost half of its fan base, they tried to come up with a gimic to get viewership up.  I think the plans for a playoff schedule were in the works before Kenseth got that 1-win championship.

 

And--for anyone who says Donny deserves to win the championship--please rephrase.  I am not going to disagree with anyone that the point system does not need to be tweeked.  However, once again, they all knew the way the points were given at the beginning of the season.  Donny decided not collect any until the weather got warm.  That's his problem.  Pittman DESERVES to win the championship. 



Nick14
October 11, 2013 at 10:24:31 AM
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Posted By: brettco on October 10 2013 at 06:53:20 PM

Didn't Kinseth do this and create the CHASE?



I believe is was Penske who was complaining that Kenseth only won 1race but won the title basically because he finished in the top 5 or 10 almost every week and his driver Ryan Newman won 8races so he and all of the other owners cried about it that a driver shouldn't be champion if they won only 1race even though they finished up front every week.

What they failed to mention during this was that Newman also had 7DNF's compared to Kenseth's 2.




brettco
October 11, 2013 at 12:03:13 PM
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Posted By: egras on October 11 2013 at 09:43:53 AM

No--the death of Earnhardt made the Chase.  When Nascar lost half of its fan base, they tried to come up with a gimic to get viewership up.  I think the plans for a playoff schedule were in the works before Kenseth got that 1-win championship.

 

And--for anyone who says Donny deserves to win the championship--please rephrase.  I am not going to disagree with anyone that the point system does not need to be tweeked.  However, once again, they all knew the way the points were given at the beginning of the season.  Donny decided not collect any until the weather got warm.  That's his problem.  Pittman DESERVES to win the championship. 



I thought he just ran onto everyone?



revjimk
October 11, 2013 at 02:40:31 PM
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This message was edited on October 11, 2013 at 02:43:06 PM by revjimk

Some people keep saying Pittman is ahead cause he started the season better. Meaningless. All races count the same, its based on total points.

System is screwy. Schatz has clearly been the dominating racer. I'm not a Schatz fan or hater either. He's awesome, should be champ. Maybe he can still pull it off... after all started from 21st at Knoxville....



Fuelstick
October 11, 2013 at 04:44:14 PM
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Posted By: revjimk on October 11 2013 at 02:40:31 PM

Some people keep saying Pittman is ahead cause he started the season better. Meaningless. All races count the same, its based on total points.

System is screwy. Schatz has clearly been the dominating racer. I'm not a Schatz fan or hater either. He's awesome, should be champ. Maybe he can still pull it off... after all started from 21st at Knoxville....



Ok,he didn't have a better start to the season,he had a better Western swing than Schatz,that's where he had the run of bad luck




dirt in ur beer
October 11, 2013 at 05:12:51 PM
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Posted By: revjimk on October 11 2013 at 02:40:31 PM

Some people keep saying Pittman is ahead cause he started the season better. Meaningless. All races count the same, its based on total points.

System is screwy. Schatz has clearly been the dominating racer. I'm not a Schatz fan or hater either. He's awesome, should be champ. Maybe he can still pull it off... after all started from 21st at Knoxville....



Im sorry but once again i have to reiterate that everybody raced on the same points system.  Donny didnt and isnt getting " cheated" .  He had the same oppotunities that Pittman had. Is he the flat out baddest fastest SOB running right now? YES he is!  But he still doesnt have as many points as Pittman  nuff said.  



maddog53
October 11, 2013 at 06:04:31 PM
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Posted By: sprint 82 on October 10 2013 at 03:58:29 PM


No one but Donny deserves to win the title!

Hat trick for the year.

Knoville, most wins, and WoW championship.



As long as he does NOT have the most points, he doesn't deserve anything.  





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