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pack
September 26, 2013 at 01:15:01 PM
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Oct 5th I-30 Speedway LR Arkansas is having a special 305 race paying $1000 to win and $150 to start and I am adding $50 for every Racesaver car to show up. It will be a combined Racesaver and Memphis steel head 305 race. For Mem rules to compare go to riversideinternationalspeedway.com weight rule will be 1500lb and no brand tire rule just durometer rule of at least 38. Trying to get this class growing here come help us out.THANKS




trecraft
September 26, 2013 at 02:20:59 PM
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Posted By: pack on September 26 2013 at 01:15:01 PM


Oct 5th I-30 Speedway LR Arkansas is having a special 305 race paying $1000 to win and $150 to start and I am adding $50 for every Racesaver car to show up. It will be a combined Racesaver and Memphis steel head 305 race. For Mem rules to compare go to riversideinternationalspeedway.com weight rule will be 1500lb and no brand tire rule just durometer rule of at least 38. Trying to get this class growing here come help us out.THANKS



The Racesaver concept included paying the winner no more than twice the starters amount.  If you are really interested in growing the class,  it's a great place to start.  You did say, help  "Us" out.  If you pay the winner ten times the starters, you're helping "him" out.  Thanks. 



CBGarage
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September 26, 2013 at 03:30:58 PM
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Posted By: trecraft on September 26 2013 at 02:20:59 PM

The Racesaver concept included paying the winner no more than twice the starters amount.  If you are really interested in growing the class,  it's a great place to start.  You did say, help  "Us" out.  If you pay the winner ten times the starters, you're helping "him" out.  Thanks. 



That's the ultimate "make a racer go broke" concept.  Never allow him to win more than he's spending on a given week....I never understood that concept and how it could be associated with "affordable racing".

 




darnall
September 26, 2013 at 04:06:11 PM
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Please make it nonwing...please make it nonwing...please please please


Loose is when you hit the wall with the rear of the
car, tight is when you hit the wall with the front of
the car. Horsepower is how fast you hit the wall and
torque is how far you move the wall.

pack
September 26, 2013 at 04:58:14 PM
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This is not a sanctioned Racesaver event, as far as I know there is 1 Racesaver car in Arkansas " and thats me" just trying to build the class. Im sure if you would like to throw in some $$$$$ out of your pocket like I am doing everyone will say thanks and we can get the pay on up . I am just glad the Mem group is allowing Racesaver cars to run with them.



brettco
September 26, 2013 at 05:16:28 PM
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Posted By: CBGarage on September 26 2013 at 03:30:58 PM

That's the ultimate "make a racer go broke" concept.  Never allow him to win more than he's spending on a given week....I never understood that concept and how it could be associated with "affordable racing".

 



Otherwise the winning car owners get too rich




CBGarage
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September 26, 2013 at 05:32:12 PM
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I'm for good payouts.....I am against a race paying double what it pays to start for the winner.  In this case, trecraft thinks it should pay $300 to win and like my post said, how is that affordable racing to spend more to win the race then what your winnings are week in and week out?  Sounds like a recipe for a racer to go broke......maybe I wasn't clear or maybe I'm misunderstanding what you're saying????

pack - if it weren't scheduled the same week as KSP in Ft Worth's $1,500 to win show, we would come.  Unfortunately it doesn't make much sense to drive from D/FW to Little Rock for less money.  I wish you luck though, hope it works and we can catch some shows next year up that way!



linbob
September 26, 2013 at 06:17:47 PM
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Posted By: trecraft on September 26 2013 at 02:20:59 PM

The Racesaver concept included paying the winner no more than twice the starters amount.  If you are really interested in growing the class,  it's a great place to start.  You did say, help  "Us" out.  If you pay the winner ten times the starters, you're helping "him" out.  Thanks. 



you can not expect people to drive very far for a $300.00 winners purse.  This is a special race  at the end of year, so what is wrong with it?



The OIL MEDIC
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September 26, 2013 at 08:08:59 PM
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If your looking for a Non wing Racesaver 305 race watch the posts!  Boyd, Texas Oct 12.  $800 to win $200 to start.




trecraft
September 26, 2013 at 09:27:37 PM
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Posted By: CBGarage on September 26 2013 at 05:32:12 PM

I'm for good payouts.....I am against a race paying double what it pays to start for the winner.  In this case, trecraft thinks it should pay $300 to win and like my post said, how is that affordable racing to spend more to win the race then what your winnings are week in and week out?  Sounds like a recipe for a racer to go broke......maybe I wasn't clear or maybe I'm misunderstanding what you're saying????

pack - if it weren't scheduled the same week as KSP in Ft Worth's $1,500 to win show, we would come.  Unfortunately it doesn't make much sense to drive from D/FW to Little Rock for less money.  I wish you luck though, hope it works and we can catch some shows next year up that way!



I didn't say anything about paying $300 to win.  You did.  Pay $500,  pay $700,  pay $800 to win.   Just don't forget the $250, the $350 or the $400 to start.  Good payouts for everyone. 



trecraft
September 26, 2013 at 10:30:43 PM
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Posted By: linbob on September 26 2013 at 06:17:47 PM

you can not expect people to drive very far for a $300.00 winners purse.  This is a special race  at the end of year, so what is wrong with it?



Here's what happened.  You saw the race paid $150 to start and you thought I wanted to pay $300 to win.  I saw the race paid $1000 to win and wanted it to pay $500 to start.  $1000 to win and $150 to start may be a special race.  But it's not special to me,  that's all.



CBGarage
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September 27, 2013 at 08:26:19 AM
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Posted By: trecraft on September 26 2013 at 09:27:37 PM

I didn't say anything about paying $300 to win.  You did.  Pay $500,  pay $700,  pay $800 to win.   Just don't forget the $250, the $350 or the $400 to start.  Good payouts for everyone. 




Wishful thinking!!!!!  Now this, I DO agree with!!!!!!!!!!!




darnall
September 27, 2013 at 08:34:01 AM
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Posted By: The OIL MEDIC on September 26 2013 at 08:08:59 PM

If your looking for a Non wing Racesaver 305 race watch the posts!  Boyd, Texas Oct 12.  $800 to win $200 to start.



Actually looking for a nonwing race for a Memphis legal steel head 305.... been running it with open engines, 360's and 410s this year....doing decent enough but would love to be on a more equal playing field at least one night.


Loose is when you hit the wall with the rear of the
car, tight is when you hit the wall with the front of
the car. Horsepower is how fast you hit the wall and
torque is how far you move the wall.

Eagle Pit Shack Guy
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September 27, 2013 at 10:27:44 AM
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This message was edited on September 27, 2013 at 10:30:09 AM by Eagle Pit Shack Guy


Our weekly purse at Eagle Raceway can be seen here: http://www.eagleraceway.com/EagleRaceway/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/Class-Payout-2013.pdf and you can see it isn't quite double the start payout to win. We took the old 360 purse and spread it out more evenly through the field instead of loading it top-heavy.

The Racesaver program is a great one, and their payout formula is pretty fair I'd say.


I am lucky enough to work at one of the best tracks 
anywhere.

sprintfn1
September 27, 2013 at 11:53:05 AM
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Posted By: trecraft on September 26 2013 at 02:20:59 PM

The Racesaver concept included paying the winner no more than twice the starters amount.  If you are really interested in growing the class,  it's a great place to start.  You did say, help  "Us" out.  If you pay the winner ten times the starters, you're helping "him" out.  Thanks. 



wow..trecraft.. sounds like the whining of a loser...the winner deserves to win 10 times the starting money..this class is still about racing...i am so sick of hearing about some guy writing how he ran a great 5th place ..hes still the 4th loser..lets remember what racing is about ..racing to win.




cajunis#1
September 27, 2013 at 01:31:25 PM
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Posted By: sprintfn1 on September 27 2013 at 11:53:05 AM

wow..trecraft.. sounds like the whining of a loser...the winner deserves to win 10 times the starting money..this class is still about racing...i am so sick of hearing about some guy writing how he ran a great 5th place ..hes still the 4th loser..lets remember what racing is about ..racing to win.



1: it's 305's so who really gives a shit;

2: race saver is a cute name for racing socialism. Why not just give the winner his/her pit pass $ back and award everyone else a participation trophy;


305's are the herpes of sprint cars

trecraft
September 27, 2013 at 04:08:18 PM
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Posted By: sprintfn1 on September 27 2013 at 11:53:05 AM

wow..trecraft.. sounds like the whining of a loser...the winner deserves to win 10 times the starting money..this class is still about racing...i am so sick of hearing about some guy writing how he ran a great 5th place ..hes still the 4th loser..lets remember what racing is about ..racing to win.



Hope you start feeling better.   That could appear to be whining to some. 



trecraft
September 27, 2013 at 09:17:16 PM
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Posted By: Eagle Pit Shack Guy on September 27 2013 at 10:27:44 AM


Our weekly purse at Eagle Raceway can be seen here: http://www.eagleraceway.com/EagleRaceway/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/Class-Payout-2013.pdf and you can see it isn't quite double the start payout to win. We took the old 360 purse and spread it out more evenly through the field instead of loading it top-heavy.

The Racesaver program is a great one, and their payout formula is pretty fair I'd say.



Yes it is.





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