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Gunner
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September 01, 2013 at 11:58:54 AM
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Ever wonder if a halo in a sprint car is a good thing? It is. Watch the following video and the one I post below it.

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Gunner
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September 01, 2013 at 12:00:03 PM
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Note all the spots the frame is broken in the video. The back of the cage hit the concrete wall. The halo helped it keep its shape.

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turtle4156
September 01, 2013 at 12:47:05 PM
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gunner, is the fencing located behind the concrete wall or apart of the wall? not  exactly the same kind of wreck as shane hmeil's but both kind of grinded on the concrete wall.  i wonder if the results would have been the same if fencing had been flush with wall, maybe tracks will make fencing apart of wall so this won't occur. glad driver is ok




Backspacer
September 01, 2013 at 01:10:52 PM
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Glad the halo helped protect Tommy, but what's up with all the clean breaks in the frame? I realize it was a nasty, high speed wreck, but damn! Please correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure that's XXX frame. I always wondered about the integrity of the XXX chassis being made in China, and I'm not sayin' that any kind of chassis wouldn't have had the same problems, but I can definitely say that's the worst one I've ever seen.   


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dirtdevil
September 01, 2013 at 11:23:08 PM
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Posted By: Backspacer on September 01 2013 at 01:10:52 PM

Glad the halo helped protect Tommy, but what's up with all the clean breaks in the frame? I realize it was a nasty, high speed wreck, but damn! Please correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure that's XXX frame. I always wondered about the integrity of the XXX chassis being made in China, and I'm not sayin' that any kind of chassis wouldn't have had the same problems, but I can definitely say that's the worst one I've ever seen.   




A large characteristic of moly tubing is to shatter at high impact, not nessessarly(always) colaps/kink  or bend like mild tubing, the bars are bent at a slow speed when fabricated obviously we all know that,there is a grade of ductility in all metals ,  if  the welds are intact, the chassis did exactly what brand A-B or C chassis would, Im not 100% sure the halo would have protected him completly, all impacts are different, the additional halo bars could be pinched on the drivers head  if the rear uprights endured another impact? simple observation and debateable discussion,  a driver is always taking a chance, regardless, its up to the driver when purchasing a chassis.   I dont disagree with halo bars, they have thier time and place, again a little more care would have to be presented had they safety crew had to extract him, possibly, (although, all the uprights would proubly be sheered and upper hoop removed completly) In the chassis defence, it did exactly what it was suppose to do, the driver walked away,the chassis made the sacrafice and  the chassis is junk, Alot of drivers never put thier brand chassis to the test such as this (amen for that) I would put my ass in that same brand chassis  if it were me, that was a tremendous impact regardless of chassis manufacture,  he walked away groosome as it looks ,but, that itself is worth your piece of mind..



Sprinter 79
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September 02, 2013 at 01:19:47 AM
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A large characteristic of moly tubing is to shatter at high impact, not nessessarly(always) colaps/kink  or bend like mild tubing, the bars are bent at a slow speed when fabricated obviously we all know that,there is a grade of ductility in all metals ,  if  the welds are intact, the chassis did exactly what brand A-B or C chassis would, Im not 100% sure the halo would have protected him completly, all impacts are different, the additional halo bars could be pinched on the drivers head  if the rear uprights endured another impact? simple observation and debateable discussion,  a driver is always taking a chance, regardless, its up to the driver when purchasing a chassis.   I dont disagree with halo bars, they have thier time and place, again a little more care would have to be presented had they safety crew had to extract him, possibly, (although, all the uprights would proubly be sheered and upper hoop removed completly) In the chassis defence, it did exactly what it was suppose to do, the driver walked away,the chassis made the sacrafice and  the chassis is junk, Alot of drivers never put thier brand chassis to the test such as this (amen for that) I would put my ass in that same brand chassis  if it were me, that was a tremendous impact regardless of chassis manufacture,  he walked away groosome as it looks ,but, that itself is worth your piece of mind..



Very well said dirtdevil, this was a scary accident and he was very fortunate to be able to walk away. This car passed our pit on the hook Saturday night and it was frightening looking. In the end however it did do it's job and Mr. Sexton left the wreck under his own power. I would also not be detered from buying a XXX car based upon this accident.


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Gunner
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September 02, 2013 at 09:57:17 AM
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Posted By: turtle4156 on September 01 2013 at 12:47:05 PM


gunner, is the fencing located behind the concrete wall or apart of the wall? not  exactly the same kind of wreck as shane hmeil's but both kind of grinded on the concrete wall.  i wonder if the results would have been the same if fencing had been flush with wall, maybe tracks will make fencing apart of wall so this won't occur. glad driver is ok




The fence is back away from that wall. That was the first time I have seen any type of car get up on it.


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JonR
September 02, 2013 at 11:09:53 AM
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Posted By: turtle4156 on September 01 2013 at 12:47:05 PM


gunner, is the fencing located behind the concrete wall or apart of the wall? not  exactly the same kind of wreck as shane hmeil's but both kind of grinded on the concrete wall.  i wonder if the results would have been the same if fencing had been flush with wall, maybe tracks will make fencing apart of wall so this won't occur. glad driver is ok



My thoughts exactly when I saw the video.   It should be mandated that the catch fence should be flush with with the retaining wall.   If the fence is flush, the car will get caught up in the fence and not have the ability to land on the concrete barrier.    Over the years there has been many examples of a car getting on top of the barrier and then rolling and destroying the car.   We should learn from the past, not repeat them.



jreven
September 02, 2013 at 11:48:50 AM
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wow! glad to see him ok.





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