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Here is video of Smoke getting too aggressive and causing a 15 car wreck.  He did say it was his fault.

Looks like a racing deal to me (same sort of wreck happened at Knoxville Saturday night on the opening lap of the 305 feature.

Tony got a good start, guy on outside of the front row went high, Tony and the other car in the 2nd row drag raced down the front stretch and the guy on the top came back down the track to the groove (they just ran out of space).

To try to make this a "he crashed the whole field" is a stretch IMO.

I agree the 53 came down and squeezed Tony into the other car on the inside, if you look and keep backing up the video it sure looks like tony had nowhere to go. ABOUT THE DUMB COMMENT by the guy on the video, is Stewart going to write a check he has deep pockets. Thats what it is a dumb comment.

You thought the 305 deal was just a racing deal

WOW

I don't have to watch it to know the guy posting is being petty over smokes' comments twards Kinser. Yeah we know the King will go down as the best sprintcar driver in the history of the sport for what he has done over the last 40 years, but it was more of a shot at the King in hopes he will snap out of his funk and step up his game. You should just laugh it of like the rest of us. It is comical what comes out of these cup guys mouths. LMAO

Then stay in the CUP cause the sprintcar world is a whole different ballgame. 

Stewart's had a rough week. Wadded one up at Eldora. Wadded the whole field up at Canandaigua and put a girl in the hospital. And got his ass kicked by his ex-girlfriend Zemken at Fulton last night.

http://www.sportingnews.com/nascar/story/2013-07-17/tony-stewart-sprint-car-wreck-injured-driver-canandaigua-motorsports-park

 
 
 
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Who do you blame on the 305 deal?

From my seat, Sawyer Phillips caused the issue, others told me it was the 126 car of Alexander, another said it was the 57 of Breazeale that caused it.

That tells me it's a racing deal, no one could agree that it was blatantly a single car that caused the crash.

Watch the tape it will remove all questions

The people you talked to could not have watched the tape

Smoke owns up to something that wasn't totally his fault. When your are the meat in the sandwich (3 wide) & get squeezed by the outside lane, this happens & could happen at any race, any restart. Also racing with a bunch of racers that you have no knowledge of their habits or styles may lead to such a situation. Now you have a superstar with big shoulders who was man enough to say what he did only to please the crowd of which he was there to entertain for the sake of a promoter who is his friend.

Of course then you have some journalist who may have a hard on for him or for who he is & what he stands for that puts a label on something he doesn't have a clue about!!!  Real Action Packed Dirt Sprint Car Racing where shit does happen!!!

I just watched the tape, IMO it's a racing deal.

Phillips came down the track a little (very little).  The 6 was in teh middle and the 126 was on the inside moving up to get a better entry into turn 1.

Who do you blame?

I stated earlier, IMO, it's Phillip's fault, but I can plainly see from teh video that others will blame the 126.

IMO the only thing he was guilty of was getting too good of a jump on the restart. Guy on the outside came down on him, probably had no idea he was there. Hate to see that big of a wreck. But I don't believe anyone did any ridiculous, asinine moves there. Glad everybody is Ok for the most part. Sounds like the young woman that went to the hospital may have a compression fracture of a vertebrae in her back. I had that happen once, it sucks, but it's possible to make a complete recovery without surgery, & I've had no lingering effects (yet). I hope the same for her, but it's going to be a long boring summer for her, now. 

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I was there for this, it was a racing deal, even Alysha Ruggles (who was the girl injured) agrees it was all a racing deal.  Almost everyone that was there racing agrees with this.  At Canandaigua its a very fast tight entry into 1, guys touched wheels and it started, nothing was done deliberate and even though Tony took blame for the accident, which wasnt all his fault, it took some brass to do that.  It happens, if racing was easy all the keyboard crewchief's could do it.  

You either love him or you hate him, no in between. When he was announced on Saturday the crowd cheered but since he called the high in mighty Steve Kinser an A**hole now everyone is lighting the torches and grabbing the pitch forks saying that he should not be racing down in sprint cars, even though he is helping bring new fans to the sport. He took the blame even though he did not need to, he could have said it was a racing deal but he took responsibility for it. Not too many drivers would do that.

bad luck put the girl in the hospital as well as another driver. the girl even stated today that everyone should stop blaming tony cause it wasnt his fault.

as far as tony putting his car in the hole that opened up....any decent racer would have done the same thing and if it worked, the announcer would have said that it was a bold move that seperates the great racers from the others......

and....to me.....it looked like the guy on the bottom moved up before the guy on top moved down while tony held his line and got boned in the deal......

It was a poop happens deal. Quit pointing fingers and just be glad nobody was seriously injured or worse.

BTW, they showed this on NASCAR Now and they claimed it was at a WoO race. Apparently every Sprint Car race in the USA is a WoO race.

Of course, they don't think Stock Car racing exists outside of NASCAR and ARCA.

Tony can take the blame for that one. It looks to me like the 53 car held his line and the guy on the inside came up. Tony should not have been there. This is not stock car racing where you bump off of another car and move on. 3 wide on a start on a track that has a tight 1st turn entry is not very bright. Everyone makes mistakes however and he will get passed this. I wonder if he would be alright with the fellow in the 53 car calling him an a-hole however.  

Never hit stationary objects!

I saw cars going 3 wide on EVERY start @ Knoxville Saturday night and no one crashed because of it.  Sometimes things happen, but to say Tony shouldn't have went 3-wide tells me you must not attend as many races as most on here do.  I see 3-wide racing (for the lead, mid-pack and the back of the pack) on EVERY start of a feature in all classes @ Knoxville (and I'm sure they do this at pretty much every other track across the USA too).

This isn't NASCAR where you can't get out of line until you pass the flagstand, the races are short, you have to go for openings when they present themselves (whether that's on lap #1, turn #1, or on the last lap coming for the checker in turn #4).

Your right, I must not attend very many races! (lmao).  Entry into turn one at this track is pretty tight. Not only have I heard this personally from people who have been there, but I also see that someone here posted it on this thread. Cars going three wide at a track that is sufficiently wide enough for this to happen is more than acceptable. Knoxville is a huge track, so to use this as an example is weak. Three wide racing for the lead happens frequently, yes it does. However, I suspect that Tony knew that he should not have been where he was or he would not have apologized. For as much as I dislike him on a personal level, I respect him as a driver. If he apologized then I am sure that he knew that he should not have been there. He is not a decent enough guy on a personal level to have accepted the blame had it not been his fault. There are aspects that bench racers are going to see in a video that may not be so clear on track. There is a very good possibility that the guy on the bottom never saw Tony. That would be Tony's fault regardless of the circumstances. Not necessarily in a deliberate way, I am not saying that this was on purpose or Tony wrecked anyone deliberately, but he feels that he was in the wrong. I would agree here.

Never hit stationary objects!

You cant possibly think that was Tony's fault after watching the video. It's plain as day that the car starting outside front row got loose and wide on the start slipping back to the outside of the row two cars. Tony was running right beside the car he started next to. The outside front row starting car was clearly the culprit in this deal as he was out of shape from the drop of the green and moved out of the racing lineup. Some people must only see what they want without regard for the facts.

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