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Big game 1
September 21, 2012 at 12:36:18 AM
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5 months younger than steve and still winning and more to come im sure




Desflur
September 21, 2012 at 10:51:04 AM
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Way to go. Gonna be hard to out fox Sammy. Love him or hate him. Congrats .

grade8
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September 21, 2012 at 06:04:54 PM
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In my opinion Steve is falling off, but that's not a jab at him as he is and will always be the the one who dominated the WoO statistically. Take Karl out of the picture and Kinsers numbers would'nt be half of what they are. Sammy on the other hand is his own mechanic and one of the best at that, plus as a driver they don't get any better than him.


KS


egras
September 21, 2012 at 07:50:15 PM
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Posted By: grade8 on September 21 2012 at 06:04:54 PM

In my opinion Steve is falling off, but that's not a jab at him as he is and will always be the the one who dominated the WoO statistically. Take Karl out of the picture and Kinsers numbers would'nt be half of what they are. Sammy on the other hand is his own mechanic and one of the best at that, plus as a driver they don't get any better than him.



"take Karl out of the picture and Kinser's numbers wouldn't be half of what they are" ? Steve would have been just fine driving with anyone. It isn't like he eeked out the competition by a couple of wins, he has it by hundreds of wins. So when you sarcastically say he dominated "statistically" there is no other kind of domination. As the great Bill Parcels said "you are as good as your record says you are".

p.s.--I am a Sammy fan



interracin
September 21, 2012 at 08:05:24 PM
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Please........not another SS thread. I and 90% of hosehead posters don't have enough restraint to keep from telling the ugly truth about the guy and his racing. For his sake and his few cult following fans, please stop creating new threads.

opnwhlr
September 21, 2012 at 08:41:12 PM
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" keep from telling the ugly truth about the guy and his racing"

While I am not a Sammy fan I would love to hear your "inside information" about the ugly truth. I can hardly wait!


 
I LEARNED ESP FROM MY MOM

"PUT YOUR SWEATER ON: DON'T YOU THINK I KNOW WHEN 
YOU'RE COLD?"


interracin
September 21, 2012 at 09:49:20 PM
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Here we go again! This is why we neeed to give the guy a break. What do you want us to re-hash again? How he pisses and moans as only Sammy can after winning, thowing rocks, taking competitors out under caution, going backward around the track to take out a guy that did nothing wrong, etc! Let's face it....Sammy is a very unique individual. Only he could get away with his shenanigans.

He has to be the one of the greats of the sport. He has the technical ability to make cars fast and handle. Oh yeah, he can drive pretty well too. Everytime he seams to mellow, he pulls something that only Sammy can do. Some will come to his defense because either they are ignorant or they just want to stir the pot. Let's face it he's just Sammy. These "Sammy fans" that start these posts pretend to be supporters, but they are just creating more trouble.



Twenty8
September 21, 2012 at 10:14:11 PM
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throwing rocks ? bold face lie



opnwhlr
September 21, 2012 at 10:21:00 PM
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Twenty8 I never cease to be amazed at people coming on here and only ragging on a particular driver.

And, ofcourse, he knows the "ugly truth" about a driver. Where do these people come from and what hit them in the head that causes such hallucinations? Beats me! Frown


 
I LEARNED ESP FROM MY MOM

"PUT YOUR SWEATER ON: DON'T YOU THINK I KNOW WHEN 
YOU'RE COLD?"


linbob
September 21, 2012 at 10:36:21 PM
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Posted By: interracin on September 21 2012 at 09:49:20 PM

Here we go again! This is why we neeed to give the guy a break. What do you want us to re-hash again? How he pisses and moans as only Sammy can after winning, thowing rocks, taking competitors out under caution, going backward around the track to take out a guy that did nothing wrong, etc! Let's face it....Sammy is a very unique individual. Only he could get away with his shenanigans.

He has to be the one of the greats of the sport. He has the technical ability to make cars fast and handle. Oh yeah, he can drive pretty well too. Everytime he seams to mellow, he pulls something that only Sammy can do. Some will come to his defense because either they are ignorant or they just want to stir the pot. Let's face it he's just Sammy. These "Sammy fans" that start these posts pretend to be supporters, but they are just creating more trouble.



My problem is I have an opinion on about every subject. I can not help it. Sammy is a Hall Of Fame driver, but he should also be a Hall Of Fame mechanic. Sammy knows all about shocks, torsion bars , feul systems. It is not that he knows about them, he has taken the time to study them. Sammy also was about the only guy that figured out 4 coil cars. Its a long story, but he had to go back to torsion bars because his chassis builder requested it. How many people dislike Sammy even though he has never in person seen him race? Sammy is not going to change. He goes 100% every race. If you want to see a great driver, watch Sammy.



throttlejohnson
September 21, 2012 at 11:36:39 PM
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I am a Sammy fan...and I will tell you there are times when even I go"shit Sammy why did you do that, gosh dammit, chit, oh well" hoseheads will light up and dog Sammy as usual...look all drivers do things at times that make us all go huh? what? and wow? So...get used to it, cause Sammy is gonna tell it and do it how he wants to regardless what we all think and want to hear... By the way Steve would not have half the victories without Karl....fact...just look at Mark Kinser, a few wins here and there and then boom hooks up with Dad and is Damn near unbeatable...
The older I get, the faster I used to be.

mwilaski
September 22, 2012 at 02:47:18 AM
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It's very simple. Stupid people like a Swindell. People at any level above "stupid" do not. That is all it comes down to. All it ever has and all it ever will.


JonR
September 22, 2012 at 10:53:56 AM
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Posted By: mwilaski on September 22 2012 at 02:47:18 AM
It's very simple. Stupid people like a Swindell. People at any level above "stupid" do not. That is all it comes down to. All it ever has and all it ever will.


Will you please stop your senseless posts about Sammy. You are as clueless as the Sammy Fans. It is impossible to read a thread and not lose interest.

The Orignial Sammy Hater

JonR

 



mwilaski
September 22, 2012 at 11:40:04 AM
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Posted By: JonR on September 22 2012 at 10:53:56 AM

Will you please stop your senseless posts about Sammy. You are as clueless as the Sammy Fans. It is impossible to read a thread and not lose interest.

The Orignial Sammy Hater

JonR

 



No.

opnwhlr
September 22, 2012 at 11:45:20 AM
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mwilaski
September 22, 2012 at 11:40:04 AM
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Posted By: JonR on September 22 2012 at 10:53:56 AM

Will you please stop your senseless posts about Sammy. You are as clueless as the Sammy Fans. It is impossible to read a thread and not lose interest.

The Orignial Sammy Hater

JonR



No.

You people are pathetic!

If Sammy, or any other driver you hate, called you and said, "Hey (insert name here) I'll be racing at your home track next weekend and I would love for you to be my guest in the pits for the entire evening!"

You would slobber all over yourself while screaming, "Oh, thank you..YES..I'll be there" and then call all your friends (or maybe the singular form..friend) and email the entire country.

You really need to get a life...and REF...I'm surprised you have carried your hatred for Sammy, or any driver for that matter, for all these years!Frown


 
I LEARNED ESP FROM MY MOM

"PUT YOUR SWEATER ON: DON'T YOU THINK I KNOW WHEN 
YOU'RE COLD?"


crazyd
September 22, 2012 at 01:34:25 PM
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Everyone has their own opinion right wrong or whatever why do post keep coming up about opinions just to stir a fight.. We all know both are great drivers. They all have their moments.. Like or hate Sammie the man is smart about car setups and like or hate Steve we all know the man can drive.. Unless Karl was turning the wheel for Steve he deserves the respect for the records he holds. Every great athlete had and will have their day..I'm sure someone will have their say about this post but the ones that actually know will agree..

grade8
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September 22, 2012 at 01:38:42 PM
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Posted By: egras on September 21 2012 at 07:50:15 PM

"take Karl out of the picture and Kinser's numbers wouldn't be half of what they are" ? Steve would have been just fine driving with anyone. It isn't like he eeked out the competition by a couple of wins, he has it by hundreds of wins. So when you sarcastically say he dominated "statistically" there is no other kind of domination. As the great Bill Parcels said "you are as good as your record says you are".

p.s.--I am a Sammy fan



First off there was no sarcasm in my post, I have nothing but respect for Steve because as you say he did dominate. BUT, you can't tell me that Steve's success was not a direct reflection of Karl himself. Steve could have done good in any car but Karl's cars were the best period, so as i said, take Karl out of the picture and Steve would not have had such an easy time I promise you that. What I was trying to get at is Sammy (love him or hate him) is the total package when it comes to a driver/mechanic. No two or three man combination could be more efficient than that. He has his struggles just like everybody else and makes mistakes just like everybody else but on any given night there is no one who stands a better chance at winning than him. Steve dominated for a long time and holds records that will never be broken but Sammy is standing the test of time better than anyone out there past or present in the sprint car world because of his ability to wrench a car as well as drive it. Anyone disagree with that?


KS

dsc1600
September 22, 2012 at 02:46:14 PM
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Steve's dominance from 2002-2005 cemented his greatest ever tag in my opinion. No help from Karl, 4 WoO championships, most wins in that period, 12th Knoxville Nationals, etc....

Before that, you kind of thought it may have been Karl as Mark had a ton of success once Steve left to go to Nascar.




linbob
September 22, 2012 at 03:52:04 PM
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Posted By: mwilaski on September 22 2012 at 02:47:18 AM
It's very simple. Stupid people like a Swindell. People at any level above "stupid" do not. That is all it comes down to. All it ever has and all it ever will.


if you stay silant you might be considered a fool, when you open your mouth you remove all doubt



mwilaski
September 22, 2012 at 05:06:28 PM
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This message was edited on September 22, 2012 at 05:06:52 PM by mwilaski
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Posted By: linbob on September 22 2012 at 03:52:04 PM

if you stay silant you might be considered a fool, when you open your mouth you remove all doubt



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