Forum: HoseHeads Sprint Car General Forum (go)
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I am not knocking Eldora and T.S. but i can make my point with them. Eldora has paid $50,000 for Kingss Royal for at least 20 years. Twenty years ago you could buy twice as much with $50,000 as you can today. Other track have done the same. I know that $50,000 is alot of money, but inflation has ate into what you can buy with $50,000. Knoxville paid about $50,000 in nationals feature win 20 years ago and now pay $150,000.

The Kings Royal is a one day show. Yea the nationals pays 150 K, but it takes three days to do it. Leave it just like it is. It was great this year!

How do you think you run three days

Keep It Real

Racesaver also suggests that the winner only receive about twice what is paid to start. So the 305 King's Royal has Sammy at (1) $50,000 and Stevie around (24) $20,000 or Stevie at (24) $1,200 and Sammy around (1) $3,000. I'll buy your ticket for the latter race if you buy mine for the first.

I totally agree. The $50,000 is more like a $20,000 payout in today's money but what ya gonna do. Sort of like the WoO $10,000 nightly payout. Every night you read about their race and some of the first words on the night's action are usually "packed house". Someone has to be making money.

Lawlessness + liberalism = HELL -  NYC, Detroit, Chicago, 
Seattle, LA  Who the H runs those cities. 

maybe just raise the admission cost $5 or something and that will bring in alot more $$.... u could pry raise it $2 and make it alot bigger purse

Lets go k-ville locals.... show um how its done
Dobs,Stewart,Brownie,Heskin

Rather than knock Eldora, I look at it from the other side and recognize how special Knoxville is. They pay a $1 million purse, and the A Main alone is $500k plus which is 4 or 5 times as much as anything else in sprint car racing.

People seem to forget that the Royal had (maybe still does) a terrible payout through the field.

I believe it now pays $12,000 to finish 2nd. When the Royal started, I think it was $5000 to finish 2nd and paid like $300 to start.

It's one of those quandries that every promotor out there has to deal with. Do you raise the purse for the sake of raising it, which means you have to raise your ticket prices, concession prices, etc. to make up for it? Most "fans" won't go for that, their immediate thought is: "It still only pays $50,000 to win, why is my ticket price increasing by $2? Bunch of money grubbers, don't they make enough money at (insert track name here) already? I'm done with em', I'll go somewhere else instead."

I've heard that argument from people as to the reason why they don't attend the Nationals anymore. Their tickets went up $2 per night (Eight whole dollars), and they quit coming, even though when they did come they'd spend $50 a night on beer, $30 on food, and buy a minimum of two T-shirts every night). They couldn't bear the thought of a ticket price increase even though tickets were what they spent the least amount of $$ on in the long run (they paid for hotels, airline tickets, rental cars, T-shirts, beer, food, gambled at Prarie Meadows every day, spent $50 racing @ Slideways daily, but that $8 was the tipping point. It all comes down to playing the odds.

I see Late Model fans complain about Knoxville's Late Model ticket prices on message boards, ($85 for the weekend), because they can pay $42 and go to Eldora for the World 100 (a 3 day show vs. a 1 day show spread out over 2 days), a $260,000 purse with $40,000 to win vs. a $130,000 purse with $44,000 to win. They are CONVINCED that the World 100 pays better to the drivers and Knoxville is just $$ hungry (because of ticket price differences only). Fans are miopic, they tend to only look at what it cost them and forget about what it costs the tracks to operate.

The Royal should stay at 50,000 + start money to win & add monies on through the field. It is kinda like the World 100, It was started & was said that they would add 1,000 to the winner every year. Eldora had a Nationals & something wasn't working or it would have stayed around. I believe that a track that has a special race like the Royal should also stay unsanctioned & thier own rules.

I agree with the guy that said the pay back thru the field shopuld be improved, 50K to win is fine but after almost 30 years of this event it should be 5 or 7 grand to start the feature. I have to admit I talked to a couple of fans that were at the KR last Sunday at Husets and they said the ticket and concession stand prices were VERY reasonable. So I don't really understand the complaints about the prices. Heck us Sioux Falls fans just dropped $35 for a $10,000 to win WoO show with 24 cars. This Sunday its $25 for a $5000 to win All Star show that I hope draws 30 cars. I don't think $36 for the KR is too expensive.

The Trophy Cup at "The Thunderbowl" has been paying the winner $20,000 for a few years and next year, the 20th annual, will pay $50,000 to the winner . . . . . and that's for 360's!